Andy9o8 2 #51 February 3, 2011 You don't need to pack, Shah. Just get a few of those hot, skinny chicks who keep throwing themselves at you and have them pack for you. In between fetching you sandwiches, that is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #52 February 3, 2011 You know guys, picking your brains for advice is not easy. Everything turns into a pissing match it seems.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 856 #53 February 3, 2011 might help if you backed off the you tube video idea... Better would be reviewing videos of YOUR landings from the canopy course you took... But what would I know? I'm an engineer. You're gonna need thicker skin in the sport my friend. People love to fuck with you 'round these parts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,076 #54 February 3, 2011 >Some of the guys and gals from your DZ who aren't swoop gods may have put >up a video of two of themselves via head mounted gopro's And these videos may >include landings. Watch these videos and actually move your arms as if you are about >to land. Get that muscle memory going. Get your brain use to seeing where things on >the ground are and what the appropriate flare height is. IMO this is a very bad idea. It's next to impossible to duplicate the field of view of a jumper's eyes with a camera recording shown on a screen; all your cues are going to be off, and if the jumper really does memorize things like "when all I can see is green, flare" he's going to be in for a world of hurt. If you really want to do something like this, take a camera out to the student landing area. Film 100 students landing. Then edit down to the best 10 landings and 2 each of the worst (high flare, sticking an arm out, pumping brakes etc.) Then you'd have a "don't do this, do this" video that can be used by new jumpers learning to land. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muffie 0 #55 February 3, 2011 QuoteOK what do you have. It's freaking freezing out there. No place to jump. What do you have? Read Brian Germains books. Partake in Safety Day. Practice PLF from the couch. It's easy to just say no, its harder to have an idea. So shoot [:) See GLIDEANGLE's excellent list of suggested reading. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4052172#4052172 From Safety & Training in case I screwed up the link. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david3 0 #56 February 3, 2011 Quote You know guys, picking your brains for advice is not easy. Everything turns into a pissing match it seems. Some ideas have been put out there and some ball busting. It's all good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #57 February 3, 2011 Quote If you really want to do something like this, take a camera out to the student landing area. Film 100 students landing. Then edit down to the best 10 landings and 2 each of the worst (high flare, sticking an arm out, pumping brakes etc.) Then you'd have a "don't do this, do this" video that can be used by new jumpers learning to land. Very good idea!Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buff 0 #58 February 3, 2011 You really need to take a canopy course. Then get with the person who ran the course and have him/her go over how they evaluate landings while he/she is doing it. This gives you a baseline tools for watching others land. Not just watching students but watching the experienced on different wings and different WL's. It's the difference between watching a football game or breaking down game tape. You need to know what to look at as opposed to just watching something happen. Now you can take what you know and what you've learned and apply it to your landings. You can watch all the video you want but it doesn't really help, in my opinion, unless you were there in the conditions and watching the landing yourself. As for the packing, Dr. Love needs to invite a packing hottie over to the Shah Shack and get the one-on-one. And make sure you get video when you try to pack the hottie b/c if it ain't on video.....It's called the Hillbilly Hop N Pop dude. If you're gonna be stupid, you better be tough. That's fucked up. Watermelons do not grow on trees! ~Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #59 February 3, 2011 Sadly when I took my the last canopy course...my right leg was in a few pieces. So I guess I should take it again.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #60 February 3, 2011 QuoteAlso there are some rather amazing videos out there regarding learning how to ride better via body bike connection There are, and they are produced and shot from the start as instructional videos, and are more than simple POV from a random track day. There are also some amazing videos out there regarding learing to fly canopies, and none of them are the random videos you happen across on youtube. How do you know the video you're watching is a good representation of a canopy flight? How do you account for the length of the lens and the aspect ratio of the video in terms of your depth perception? The answer to both is that you don't because you can't. It's nice for you that you're all jacked up on jumping, but making shit up that doesn't exist isn't going to help you get in the air any sooner, or perform any better when you finally do. Want to know the #1 thing you can do in the winter to make yourself a better skydiver (aside from going someplace warm and jumping)? Simple, find a way to dedicate more time and money to jumping when the weather breaks. Get a part-time job, a raise, lower you bills, sell something, recycle, whatever you can think of so that when the weather breaks you can be at the DZ jumping hard every free minute you have. Miracle of all miracles, the one thing that can make you better at the thing you want to spend all of your time doing, it actually doing that thing. Praise the lord, what a wonderful time to be alive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #61 February 4, 2011 Here ya go, Shah... This is good, too. This is another option Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #62 February 4, 2011 Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JiAegc8EOw&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyM_LkW8DVI&feature=related This is very nice, perhaps a sticky needs to me made with such videos?Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #63 February 4, 2011 Quote Better to practice a pack job once, then take it to someone who knows what they are doing and unfurl it in front of them. That way you can check for potential problems. We went after ALL of my reserve repacks, carefully watched the PC launch, unstow the lines, pull the canopy out of the bag and checked all the folds. Sure, after the first dozen or so, you would start to feel confident, but it doesn't hurt! Shah, if you're having problem with canopy control, have someone show you the folding method, instead of rolling the canopy up. (once you have it on the ground, you dress the cocoon then instead of rolling the sides under, you fold one, then the other, so you can then control the whole canopy with one hand and your knees. makes bagging easier)"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 856 #64 February 4, 2011 Here's another awesome read. I was never looking to downsize much at all (my main is usually a 150) but found this checklist to be an impressive list of skills to master to fully familiarize you with your canopy. I feel we should all be able to do ALL of the items on the checklist. BillVon's Downsizing checklist ...also proof there IS useful skydive information on the interwebs...you just have to look in the right places. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #65 February 4, 2011 QuoteYou know guys, picking your brains for advice is not easy. Everything turns into a pissing match it seems. Hey, I thought your sense of humor was stronger than that. I think it still is. Re: the OP, when I first learned how to pack a square (I started on rounds), I practice-packed whenever I could, including at home in front of the TV. That was in the flat-packing days. When I got recurrent a few years ago, and switching over to pro-packing, I did the same thing a bit. Seems a reasonable idea. Re: tunnel - it's a great idea, but since you apparently live near NYC, no matter which tunnel you go to, it looks like you'll have to make an overnight trip to do it. But Spring comes a bit earlier to places like Delmarva or Orange, Va, so those are options once the worst of the winter breaks. And I'm pretty sure Crosskeys jumps year-round when weather permits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hcsvader 1 #66 February 4, 2011 Go buy a bottle of bourbon, take said bottl eover to your local rigger and hang out with him while he works, watch what they do, ask them questions, practise packing while they watch. After thats done share the bottle of bourbon :) its a great way to learnHave you seen my pants? it"s a rough life, Livin' the dream >:) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morne 0 #67 February 4, 2011 or post some more sh!t on dz.com and flamed and maybe learn something. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anthonyfellows 0 #68 February 4, 2011 QuoteRead your SIMS you can never read it enough. It's good to know all info in there. Plus if down the road you want to start getting rating it will be that much easier on you. WTF is a "SIMS" ... LOL GeezusSerious relationships turn into work after a few weeks and I already got a fucking job :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ H.A.F. = Hard As Fuck ... Goddamn Amateurs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anthonyfellows 0 #69 February 4, 2011 Quoteit's a bit sad that after a handful of posts of Shah contemplating learning to flare from TV no one has brought up learning to fuck from watching porn... sorry, I couldn't find anything more useful to add :( Some girls like porn star fucking and others don't :) :) :) ... Some even like to watch porn while you're fucking and imitate all the moves. Shah learned to fuck from watching Bill Nye the Science Guy, I think.Serious relationships turn into work after a few weeks and I already got a fucking job :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ H.A.F. = Hard As Fuck ... Goddamn Amateurs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anthonyfellows 0 #70 February 4, 2011 Quote Quote As for the packing, sadly there aren't any good videos out YET. Pack Like a Pro. Not on Youtube, but it actually walks you through pro packing and includes tips from riggers, etc. Love Pack like a Pro and Packing Made Simple ... Both very awesome videos ... I still pack like shit, but I no longer care due to the fact that I don't have time to pack like a pro ... Too busy trying to smoke cigarettes, drink coffee, and pick up hot chicks to be paying attention to what my canopy looks like when it goes into the dbag.Serious relationships turn into work after a few weeks and I already got a fucking job :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ H.A.F. = Hard As Fuck ... Goddamn Amateurs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #71 February 4, 2011 QuoteQuote Shah, if you're having problem with canopy control, have someone show you the folding method, instead of rolling the canopy up. (once you have it on the ground, you dress the cocoon then instead of rolling the sides under, you fold one, then the other, so you can then control the whole canopy with one hand and your knees. makes bagging easier) I just saw that in the youtube videos, I have to say it looks more organized. I will try it when I get home this evening. Thank youLife through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nigel99 569 #72 February 4, 2011 Shah one suggestion that you haven't given is that there is nothing like "lurking" at the dz to learn. If it is colder than you would like, or you are too poor at the time you can still watch the landings. I don't know about your DZ and USA, but I used to help with landing students (we used an arrow that needed to be steered). I don't know if and when you would be allowed to fly students by remote control on the radio - but it certainly wouldn't hurt to stand next to the guy doing it and listen.Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shah269 0 #73 February 4, 2011 QuoteShah one suggestion that you haven't given is that there is nothing like "lurking" at the dz to learn. . But things become a pissing match real quick. The above videos were perfect. Perhaps the best I have ever seen. Maybe...just maybe...to get more people to stay in the sport it wouldn't hurt if there were some sort of sticky which had vidoes like this and others showing what each level of an AFF should look like and a POV view of what a student landing should be. And for someone with free time and a bit of skill there is a real market need for beginner books and videos. But so far thank you. This has been very helpful. I greatly appreciate it.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 856 #74 February 4, 2011 HTH do you get into a pissing match sitting around learning??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites david3 0 #75 February 4, 2011 QuoteHTH do you get into a pissing match sitting around learning??? I think Shah thought Nigel was talking about lurking dz.com as apposed to lurking at an actual dz. You can definitely get in a pissing match here. Hey Shah, you could also check out some of the other drop zones near you this winter just to say hello, fill out your waivers and make some new contacts if it is too cold to jump. That way when the weather breaks you can hit the ground running. I see you have Skydive Sussex as your home dz. Sky's the Limit is less than an hour and a half from there and depending on where you call home may be closer to you. Good people there. You could also take a run up to the Ranch or down to Cross Keys. Make it a goal to visit more drop zones this year and by visiting them now you help alleviate any anxiety you may have of walking in to a drop zone as an unknown. When you are going to visit let people here know and maybe they can meet you and introduce you around. Edited for spelling. Probably missed many others. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 3 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
nigel99 569 #72 February 4, 2011 Shah one suggestion that you haven't given is that there is nothing like "lurking" at the dz to learn. If it is colder than you would like, or you are too poor at the time you can still watch the landings. I don't know about your DZ and USA, but I used to help with landing students (we used an arrow that needed to be steered). I don't know if and when you would be allowed to fly students by remote control on the radio - but it certainly wouldn't hurt to stand next to the guy doing it and listen.Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #73 February 4, 2011 QuoteShah one suggestion that you haven't given is that there is nothing like "lurking" at the dz to learn. . But things become a pissing match real quick. The above videos were perfect. Perhaps the best I have ever seen. Maybe...just maybe...to get more people to stay in the sport it wouldn't hurt if there were some sort of sticky which had vidoes like this and others showing what each level of an AFF should look like and a POV view of what a student landing should be. And for someone with free time and a bit of skill there is a real market need for beginner books and videos. But so far thank you. This has been very helpful. I greatly appreciate it.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 856 #74 February 4, 2011 HTH do you get into a pissing match sitting around learning??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david3 0 #75 February 4, 2011 QuoteHTH do you get into a pissing match sitting around learning??? I think Shah thought Nigel was talking about lurking dz.com as apposed to lurking at an actual dz. You can definitely get in a pissing match here. Hey Shah, you could also check out some of the other drop zones near you this winter just to say hello, fill out your waivers and make some new contacts if it is too cold to jump. That way when the weather breaks you can hit the ground running. I see you have Skydive Sussex as your home dz. Sky's the Limit is less than an hour and a half from there and depending on where you call home may be closer to you. Good people there. You could also take a run up to the Ranch or down to Cross Keys. Make it a goal to visit more drop zones this year and by visiting them now you help alleviate any anxiety you may have of walking in to a drop zone as an unknown. When you are going to visit let people here know and maybe they can meet you and introduce you around. Edited for spelling. Probably missed many others. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
