I have to buy beer for The Farm. Help!

[Divalent 154]

I have to buy beer for The Farm: something about passing my AFF course. (Honestly, it can’t possibly be anything more than a rumor, because everyone knows that nothing ever happens at The Farm!).

Anyway, I have a few noob questions about this beer thing.

- I’ve been told that the DZO mandates green bottles, because apparently he likes Heineken. Which just shows that success in one thing (like running a great DZ) is no guarantee that one won’t be snookered into expressing a preference for piss water by a slick marketing campaign that sells name cachet over substance. Should I cater to this flaw in him, or buy something that actually is good?

- I was thinking of getting a 12 pack of something good to be shared among the handful of people who were my AFF instructors, and then a 24-pack of some pop american beer brand for the hoi polloi. I was told that the instructors would instead grab the 24-pack and leave the 12-pack for everyone else, because they end up with more beer. Is it really the case that quantity is much more important than quality when it comes to DZ beer?

- I have 2 cases of old crap domestic beer in the basement left over from some old event more than 4 years ago. No one in their right mind would even think of trying to drink it. (The laws against disposal of toxic substances prevent me from just dumping it.) If the answer to the above question is yes, would it be acceptable to just bring those 2 cases and save myself the expense of buying a case and a half of fresh? (I mean, it is more "beer".)

Thanks for your advice.

[CSpenceFLY 1]

Anything less then what you normally drink makes you an ass.

Anyone who bitches about free beer makes them an ass.

Don't forget your first boogie beer in Fitzgerald.

[Halfpastniner 0]

Make sure you buy Andy Copland a few 40's of Colt 45

BASE 1384

[popsjumper 2]

Peter...No, no, no!
What I said was, "Get a case of the good stuff for the Instructors who helped you along and a 12-pack for the beer hounds!"

Or, really the case is good, the 12-pack is going overboard.


Beer Rules
http://www.skydiving.org.vt.edu/goodstuff/beer.htm

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

[hokierower 0]

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Peter...No, no, no!
What I said was, "Get a case of the good stuff for the Instructors who helped you along and a 12-pack for the beer hounds!"

Or, really the case is good, the 12-pack is going overboard.


Beer Rules
http://www.skydiving.org.vt.edu/goodstuff/beer.htm

I love the fact that when you google Skydiving Beer Rules, my Alma Mater's skydiving club is the first thing to pop up.

Oh, and GO HOKIES, F$*% DUKE!!

[FreeflyGoat 0]

12 pack of something good and a case of poopie beer will do you good. Someone will say "awesome, the new guy brought Fullers ESB." And another will say "awesome, look at this case of miller light the new guy brought." It's a win-win situation.

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[wrightskyguy 1]

That beer rule is a myth. It was dreamed up by greedy instructors. Believe me, AFF instructors and DZO's are literally rolling in student dollars. If I were you, I'd tell em to piss off and spend my money on a new micro Katana.

John Wright

World's most beloved skydiver

[virgin-burner 1]

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Make sure you buy Andy Copland a few 40's of Colt 45

make sure you dont meet up with Andy Copland in the parking lot, or you will have to make another beer-run!

“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”
-Hunter S. Thompson
"No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try."
-Yoda

[Divalent 154]

Thanks for the advice, all. I'll take CSpenceFLY's advice and get a case of what I would normally drink.

The Fitz boogie sounds interesting, but I don't think I'll have my A license by then. Would they allow students to jump at it? (and have gear to rent?)

[KevinP 0]

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Anything less then what you normally drink makes you an ass.

It takes me sometimes upwards of six months to drink a six-PACK. Not a big drinker. When I do, it's Guinness or Young's (double chocolate stout). Not everyone likes such beers. I am also fond of Sam Adams Cherry Wheat and Black Lager.

When I went to the DZ for my AFF1, I took in a 12-pk of Heineken because that's what someone suggested.

I'm willing to play along with this beer thing, but I'm not buying $4/bottle beer for my instructors, cameraman and riggers when I graduate. What's the option??

Sincerely,
Kevin

[billvon 3,100]

Get em whatever you like. Personally I'd make a case of Maris Otter. It's pretty good and light enough that Bud drinkers will recognize it as beer.

[roostnureye 2]

dude just get like 3 cases of beast, theyll love you now and hate you in the morning! best of both worlds

Flock University FWC / ZFlock
B.A.S.E. 1580
Aussie BASE 121

[theonlyski 8]

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Thanks for the advice, all. I'll take CSpenceFLY's advice and get a case of what I would normally drink.

The Fitz boogie sounds interesting, but I don't think I'll have my A license by then. Would they allow students to jump at it? (and have gear to rent?)

Boogies are tons of fun for most jumpers, and can be pretty boring for unlicensed ones (atleast as far as skydiving goes)

If you're going, go for the after hours parties and random fun, if you get some jumps in, great, but don't count on it.

There are even boogies that they don't want students jumping at, there's alot of air traffic to contend with and they don't want students in the air at that time.

"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly
DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890
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[The_Don 0]

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Thanks for the advice, all. I'll take CSpenceFLY's advice and get a case of what I would normally drink.

The Fitz boogie sounds interesting, but I don't think I'll have my A license by then. Would they allow students to jump at it? (and have gear to rent?)

Boogies are tons of fun for most jumpers, and can be pretty boring for unlicensed ones (atleast as far as skydiving goes)

If you're going, go for the after hours parties and random fun, if you get some jumps in, great, but don't count on it.

There are even boogies that they don't want students jumping at, there's alot of air traffic to contend with and they don't want students in the air at that time.

Don't take this the wrong way, but...

I did my first jump course & level one AFF jump at one of the biggest of Spences boogies.

You might want to let HIM field these types of questions.

I am NOT being loud.
I'm being enthusiastic!

[Nutz 0]

I think this guy is going to be alright.

"Don't! Get! Eliminated!"

[wayneflorida 0]

Your over thinking this beer thing.

I'll bet you that whatever you buy will be gone in a couple hours. 15 minutes, in July, when it's 105 and 98 humidity.

[KevinP 0]

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Your over thinking this beer thing.

I'll bet you that whatever you buy will be gone in a couple hours. 15 minutes, in July, when it's 105 and 98 humidity.

I like this reply. Simplicity is good. Especially for a noob.

Sincerely,
Kevin

[Divalent 154]

Well, Kevin, I kind of understand the simplicity sentiment, but nonetheless I don't think it's a completely unimportant decision. I am a little bit concerned about the impression I make with the local denizens of the DZ I jump at. It seems to me that how other people view you will to a large extent determine what sort of activities folks will be willing to engage in with you and the quality of your experiences. So I don’t want to commit a faux pas that will pigeon hole me into I’d a role or reputation that I’d rather not have. I hope to earn a reputation as someone fun to jump with because of my gradually building skills, and that by jumping with me early in my learning I can be more reliable, safer, and valuable as a jump-partner to them in the future.

I think the worse thing that can happen is to do something notorious that pigeon holes me into a reputation and/or a role that I’d rather not have.

For example, look at the role that the student played in this video during the first 40 sec or so of freefall:

Video: Instructors having fun with student. (clicky)

If I were this student, I’d be very very VERY concerned that people at my DZ would come to look at me as someone who is perfect for this role:

Video: A role I would not want to play (clicky)

I, for one, would not want to be looked upon as the DZ’s fly toy. (But that’s just me. Maybe someone else would be happy in that role.

[billvon 3,100]

>I am a little bit concerned about the impression I make with the local
>denizens of the DZ I jump at.

Then buy local! Sweetwater has great beer, and by buying it you're supporting the local economy. May I recommend a six of 420 pale, a six of IPA, six of their brown, and six Sch'wheat wheat beer. Maybe get a few Heinekens for people who think green equals good beer.

BTW if that guy really does think that green=good, if he ever asks you what sort of gear you plan to buy for your first rig, tell him "green."

[KevinP 0]

That's pretty hilarious, since I am the guy in the first video. The story is on this forum under a thread about screwing the pooch.

I'm a pretty boring guy. I'm a Jesus Freak. I don't party. I don't drink very much at all. I am interested in this sport as a way to keep me from going crazy since I am finally out of the year-in-year-off Iraq rotation. If I have to buy (or drink) copious amounts of beer to be accepted, then I am fine jumping alone. I'll play by societal rules to a point, but if I'm judged poorly because I didn't buy or bring beer when it was expected (or because I blow my first jump, as seen in the video), I won't lose sleep.

Sincerely,
Kevin

[GLIDEANGLE 1]

Save the beer in your basement! Once chilled, it will be PERFECT for you to wear during your SCR ceremony.

The choices we make have consequences, for us & for others!

[GLIDEANGLE 1]

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That's pretty hilarious, since I am the guy in the first video. The story is on this forum under a thread about screwing the pooch.

I'm a pretty boring guy. I'm a Jesus Freak. I don't party. I don't drink very much at all. I am interested in this sport as a way to keep me from going crazy since I am finally out of the year-in-year-off Iraq rotation. If I have to buy (or drink) copious amounts of beer to be accepted, then I am fine jumping alone. I'll play by societal rules to a point, but if I'm judged poorly because I didn't buy or bring beer when it was expected (or because I blow my first jump, as seen in the video), I won't lose sleep.

Smile, Breathe, Relax....

The beer rules allow non-drinkers to substitute another beverage.  However, the networking value of walking your case of beer around the DZ and meeting folks is tremendous. Don't over think this.  

Remember that beer is proof that God loves us.

Smile, Breathe, Relax....

The choices we make have consequences, for us & for others!

[theonlyski 8]

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I am finally out of the year-in-year-off Iraq rotation.

Its a great feeling to be home and not have to worry about going back again, isn't it?

"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly
DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890
I'm an asshole, and I approve this message

[popsjumper 2]

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Save the beer in your basement! Once chilled, it will be PERFECT for you to wear during your SCR ceremony.

Excellent point!

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

[guineapiggie101 0]

I've never really understood what the "beer rules" are. Is this common for most DZs especially when it comes to going through AFF and other such milestones?