Zoter 0 #51 October 6, 2005 Edited.... Post deleted....I dont know enough about this to be giving an opinion... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdrejhon 8 #52 October 9, 2005 Quote Perhaps. But that's better than landing under one malfunctioning, violently spinning canopy. Of course the best plan is to avoid landing under ANY malfunctioning, violently spinning canopies.I'm taught to whip the other chute out by 1000 feet anyway if whatever I have is a high speed malfunction and I can't cutaway (either reserve or a 3rings lockup). This includes tattered/tangled/streamer situations where I have a big mess above me, I'm only a few seconds from the ground and my time is essentially run out, all I can do is hope for the best. But, I've always curiously wondered on this improbable scenario.... Has anyone here ever tried to pull the other chute while in unreleasable spinning violent malfunction -- you're spinning with outwards G forces -- wouldn't the G forces "throw" the D-Bag with outward G-forces in the opposite direction AWAY from the malfunctioning unreleasable chute? Making it more likely to grab clear air and deploy more fully before the other chute tangles? (Granted linetwists could occur, but this is easier to recover from than, if two chutes tangled more badly with each other)? Anybody with experience who can comment on pitching a 2nd chute (either main or reserve) while under an unreleasable spinning malfunction (either reserve or main)? Or no precedent? This probably wouldn't be as big a concern for me as my canopy types and sizes aren't as likely to violently spin (unless seriously malfunctioned), but it's some interesting thought to ponder... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #53 October 9, 2005 Quote Anybody with experience who can comment on pitching a 2nd chute (either main or reserve) while under an unreleasable spinning malfunction (either reserve or main)? Or no precedent? There's precedent...Missy Nelson did it under a wild spin on her Velocity and managed to save her life in the process. Missy Nelson's Hard CutawaySky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdrejhon 8 #54 October 9, 2005 Interesting. Thanks. Hmmm, downplane being the result of pitching a 2nd parachute while in a spinning mal. Yeah, that makes sense - the D-bag of the reserve being thrown outwards away from the unreleasable spinning main by G-forces. Resulting in a downplane rather than a main-reserve entanglement (but it does look like that almost happened, she had to HAND LAUNCH the D-bag away from her) (If the story is true as worded out...) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #55 October 9, 2005 I'm sure Missy Nelson has enough skydives to be aware of what's going on during an emergency. But, you can't speculate that the outcome will always be a downplane. Sure, it's something to watch for, especially if one canopy has line twists, but it's far from a given as to it always happening.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites