Rookie120 0 #26 July 19, 2012 There's no FAA requirement to report a bird strike *** No there isn't. But I can almost guarantee there is a bird strike section in the A/C manual. Usually under the "Special Inspection" section. I/E lightning, overweight landing, hard landing. Stuff like that. More than likely no damage happened but thats why you shut it down and look before hauling another load. Myself had a B/S about 2 months ago. Just a big red splatter on the fuselage and no damage. Then 2 weeks ago we had one that went into the engine core. No signs of damage in flight. No high vibrations, no fluctuations of engine parameters, NOTHING! 6 of the blades was totaled and had core damage. That turned into an engine change. It just pisses me off to hear stuff like this. What would have happened if it did get sucked into the engine and had damage and something did happen? The fed's would be all ove it and US as skydivers would be sitting here bitching asking why the feds are giving us a hard time. Well they bust our balls cause we have clearly shown we can't do it ourselves. We keep pushing things as long as there is no incident. Seems like a lot of risk for something that could have been inspected in no time at all. If no damage party on! OK rant over. ItIf you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #27 July 19, 2012 Quote I've hit 'em with the front of my car and they just explode into a cloud of feathers. Big difference hitting one doing 50mph and 110mph. What I am saying is how did he know he only hit one and one didn't go into the engine and tear something up. Shut it down for 20 minutes and look. It's sounds pretty simple to me.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #28 July 19, 2012 QuoteShut it down for 20 minutes and look. It's sounds pretty simple to me. Inspections have proven to be a 'weak point' in the Lodi/Bill Dause maintenance program. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #29 July 19, 2012 QuoteIt just pisses me off to hear stuff like this. Me too - my previous posts were sarcastic. But lots of people don't seem to care. The attitude seems to be that since it hasn't happened, it won't happen. Not realizing that luck only takes one so far. When the FAA decides to start treating jump planes as passenger planes, these are the people we can thank. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #30 July 19, 2012 QuoteWhen the FAA decides to start treating jump planes as passenger planes, these are the people we can thank. The only redeeming thing about this situation is that it happened in Lodi. At least that place is on the FAAs radar as being a 'problem', and future incidents that occur there (or in Bill's planes elsewhere) could be viewed as a result of a 'Lodi' problem, and not a 'skydiving' problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #32 July 20, 2012 QuoteInspections have proven to be a 'weak point' in the Lodi/Bill Dause maintenance program. Thats really a shame. I have seen many places take pride in the machines and it shows. But then others keep pushing the envelope on MX then sit there and wonder why they have a smoking crater at the end of the runway.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RiggerLee 63 #33 July 20, 2012 I seem to recall an acedent around Dallas. A student pilot and his instructor had a bird strike on the leading edge of the wing. 150, 172 something like that. Big dent in the wing. They took the plane back to the airport and as they slowed down on final that wing stalled and they spun in. I grant you this was a smaller plane but wing damage is not triveal. I had a strike. Good size hawk. It was at night and it hit me right at the base of the stut so not that far off center. Big bang and the whole plane kicked. It was a 150 but still this was a lot of force and it's not like I was going fast, it was a 150. If it had hit me some place... thinner things might be diffrent. I did feel bad about the bird, but what can I say, should have had his nav lights on. I seem to recall doc talking about bird strikes back when he had the DC-3. I'm trying to remember the exact context. I think he was replaceing the lens/glass over the landing lights on the DC-3, it's in the leading edge of the wing. I think it had a crack or some thing. I recall him saying some thing about the danger of breaking that lens, for example on a bird strike, and it's a heavy peace of glass. As I recall he said that the plane would not fly, or would be very difficule to fly with that lens broken. And thats a big conservitive airplane. But that big hole in the leading edge of the wing could cause the loss of the aircraft. Just saying, this isn't necsesaraly in the triveal catigory. LeeLee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites