Just another reminder - CHECK YOUR GEAR!

[jumper03 0]

I could easily not be writing this...

End of the day yesterday, after six jumps, I daisy chain my lines and the left toggle comes off. The loop isn't broken, I don't know how it did it, but it came off in my hand. If it had done that on landing I would have smacked the ground for sure.

The best I can figure is that the finger trap loop was too big (it's now been shrunk) and somehow worked it's way undone...I'm at a loss.

I am however grateful to be here, in one piece.

Check your shit!

Jump

Scars remind us that the past is real

[justinb138 0]

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I could easily not be writing this...

End of the day yesterday, after six jumps, I daisy chain my lines and the left toggle comes off. The loop isn't broken, I don't know how it did it, but it came off in my hand. If it had done that on landing I would have smacked the ground for sure.

The best I can figure is that the finger trap loop was too big (it's now been shrunk) and somehow worked it's way undone...I'm at a loss.

I am however grateful to be here, in one piece.

Check your shit!

Jump

The toggle was probably put on incorrectly. When hooking it up, if you pull the top of the toggle through the loop instead of the bottom of the toggle, it can slip off if there is some slack in the line.

[freefalle 0]

Either way, valid point. glad you didn't get hurt

[Floats18 0]

The same thing happened to me, 3 jumps after a factory re-line

'cept it happened to me at 1200 feet

Definately check that knot out next time you jump, I watched a jumper break his pelvis for the same reason this summer... his let loose on landing

--- and give them wings so they may fly free forever

DiverDriver in Training

[AFFI 0]

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Definately check that knot out next time you jump,

Knot or Finger Trap?

What does everybody else think?

Mykel AFF-I10
Skydiving Priorities: 1) Open Canopy. 2) Land Safely. 3) Don’t hurt anyone. 4) Repeat…

[bodypilot1 0]

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I could easily not be writing this...

End of the day yesterday, after six jumps, I daisy chain my lines and the left toggle comes off. The loop isn't broken, I don't know how it did it, but it came off in my hand. If it had done that on landing I would have smacked the ground for sure.

The best I can figure is that the finger trap loop was too big (it's now been shrunk) and somehow worked it's way undone...I'm at a loss.

I am however grateful to be here, in one piece.

Check your shit!

Jump

I always think you should bar tack your finger trap or knot it before installing the toggle.

Glad it happened on the ground and not in the air.

Be safe-r
Ed

www.WestCoastWingsuits.com
www.PrecisionSkydiving.com

[Martini 0]

I fingertrap the brakeline so that the trapped end goes as far up (inside) the line as possible. Then I knot it. The knot makes it impossible for the fingertrapped loop to slip, leaving the long "tag" fingertrapped allows me to lengthen the line later when the brakeline shrinks. Bar tacks are neater but permanent, i.e. no adjustment later.

Sometimes you eat the bear..............

[bodypilot1 0]

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I fingertrap the brakeline so that the trapped end goes as far up (inside) the line as possible. Then I knot it. The knot makes it impossible for the fingertrapped loop to slip, leaving the long "tag" fingertrapped allows me to lengthen the line later when the brakeline shrinks.

Correct.
And it's sometimes just faster then looking for someone with a bartack machine.

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Bar tacks are neater but permanent, i.e. no adjustment later.

Since when? Have a thread pick?


Be safe
Ed

www.WestCoastWingsuits.com
www.PrecisionSkydiving.com

[Floats18 0]

I've been checking the knots and fingertraps on my toggles since my break line released and they haven't been moving on me.

I feel perfectly safe w/o a bartac, and my rigger(s) assured me that they are not necessary.

Always trust your rigger, and if you don't... you should find a new rigger.

edited 'cuz i'm HTML impaired h4x0r!

--- and give them wings so they may fly free forever

DiverDriver in Training

[bodypilot1 0]

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Always trust your rigger, and if you don't... you should find a new rigger.

I am my own rigger and a bar tack leaves me no dout.



Be safe
Ed

www.WestCoastWingsuits.com
www.PrecisionSkydiving.com

[Martini 0]

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Have a thread pick?

I've picked out lots of stitching but not a bar tack. Mostly 'cause I never needed to but also for fear of accidentally cutting some threads in the line. I just acquired a big illuminated magnifier on a stand, that might make me more confident un-bartacking a fingertrap. On the other hand I kinda pack by braille anyway, what could possibly go wrong?

Sometimes you eat the bear..............

[speedy 0]

A jumper at our club had a spinner on opening, he looked for his toogles an could only find one . He chopped. These were also only finger trapped.

I would also go for the bar tack. I did have knots on a VX I jump. I got rid of the knots as they tended to get hung up on the guide rings. Not nice when you are flaring.

Dave

Fallschirmsport Marl

[billvon 3,120]

>I got rid of the knots as they tended to get hung up on the guide rings.

You can avoid this by shortening the loops so much that the knot is 'trapped' inside the grommet. You'll know you have it right when it is very difficult to squeeze the toggle through the loop.

[Martini 0]

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A jumper at our club had a spinner on opening, he looked for his toogles an could only find one Shocked. He chopped. These were also only finger trapped.

Jumping fingertrapped lines with no bartack or knot above the loop is for people with a death wish.

Sometimes you eat the bear..............

[speedy 0]

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>I got rid of the knots as they tended to get hung up on the guide rings.

You can avoid this by shortening the loops so much that the knot is 'trapped' inside the grommet. You'll know you have it right when it is very difficult to squeeze the toggle through the loop.

PDF toggles do not have grommets.

Dave

Fallschirmsport Marl