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16 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi John,

I've been thinking about that recently.

I do carry a Real ID driver's license, a very small copy of my DD214, and my dog tags.  I would hope that those would work.

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Non-citizens can get a Real ID license. Non-citizens can serve in the military.  They won't help.

Chances are that your skin color might help.

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18 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

In my safe-deposit box I have copies of my birth certificate & my name change court order.

Hmmmm; would those work?  Who knows in these crazy times.

Who’s going to go and open your safe deposit box when you’re not allowed to talk to a lawyer? What good would the documents be anyway if you’re not allowed to show them to a court?
 

This is the obvious absurdity of deciding that this particular group doesn’t get due process. Anyone could be accused of being part of that group and without due process how do you argue that you’re not?

Not that it’s an issue unique to Trump, there have been problems with this throughout the war on terror era.

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Due process applies to everybody, not just citizens.  That is what the Maggots are ignoring.

.... nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

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2 hours ago, kallend said:

Non-citizens can get a Real ID license. Non-citizens can serve in the military.  They won't help.

Chances are that your skin color might help.

It is an unfortunate state of affairs when we are awash with illegal aliens and the best anyone can do is to bitch about their ham handed removal.

I've lived in countries where being there without authorization was a REALLY BAD IDEA, and simply being deported was about the best for which you might hope.

Since virtually all the problems faced in the Americas can be traced to unfettered immigration from other continents, it is past time to stop doing the same thing while expecting different results.

 

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20 minutes ago, dogyks said:

Since virtually all the problems faced in the Americas can be traced to unfettered immigration from other continents, it is past time to stop doing the same thing while expecting different results.

Nice way to show off your true colours. I've got nothing.

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1 hour ago, dogyks said:

Since virtually all the problems faced in the Americas can be traced to unfettered immigration from other continents,

Well that’s clearly insane bullshit. 
 

It really is a shame you’ve never bothered to dig beyond the simplest surface level understanding of any issue.

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2 hours ago, dogyks said:

 

Since virtually all the problems faced in the Americas can be traced to unfettered immigration from other continents, it is past time to stop doing the same thing while expecting different results.

 

I'm sure Crazy Horse felt the same way.

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2 hours ago, dogyks said:

It is an unfortunate state of affairs when we are awash with illegal aliens and the best anyone can do is to bitch about their ham handed removal.

 

 

On the whole I'm happier having people around who are willing to fix my roof, make a new patio, help landscape my yard than I am to have people around who are clearly frustrated Gestapo wannabes.

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3 hours ago, dogyks said:

It is an unfortunate state of affairs when we are awash with illegal aliens and the best anyone can do is to bitch about their ham handed removal.

Some "illegal aliens we were awash in" - 

Mick.  He came to the US to start a company making skydiving gear.  His company employed five Americans, also skydivers.  Then he had a visa problem; for a short time he was then an illegal immigrant.  We are fortunate that he was not "removed."

Elon Musk.  He came to the US and started several companies.  He entered illegally; he came in on an educational visa, never even registered for classes and went straight to work.  VERY illegal.

Monica.  She was a skydiver who came from Norway to visit.  But at one point she worked at a skydiving gear store for a few days because they were shorthanded.  Again VERY illegal.

Natalie.  Had a 4-way team from Switzerland who went to the World Meet.  While in the US, she coached some local 4 way teams.  Illegal.

Neil Young.  Came to the US in 1966 and played guitar for tips.  Again, illegal.  Didn't get a green card until 1970!  

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Since virtually all the problems faced in the Americas can be traced to unfettered immigration from other continents, it is past time to stop doing the same thing while expecting different results.

So you would consider the United States one of the problems faced in the Americas?  Interesting.  Fortunately there are plenty of other options for you.

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4 hours ago, dogyks said:

It is an unfortunate state of affairs when we are awash with illegal aliens and the best anyone can do is to bitch about their ham handed removal.

I've lived in countries where being there without authorization was a REALLY BAD IDEA, and simply being deported was about the best for which you might hope.

Since virtually all the problems faced in the Americas can be traced to unfettered immigration from other continents, it is past time to stop doing the same thing while expecting different results.

 

Hi dogyks,

So, I would guess that you approve of the torch-lite parade in Charlottesville a few yrs ago.  The one were some right-wing nut drove his car into a group and ended up in prison.

Jerry Baumchen

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2 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi dogyks,

So, I would guess that you approve of the torch-lite parade in Charlottesville a few yrs ago.  The one were some right-wing nut drove his car into a group and ended up in prison.

Jerry Baumchen

Bad guess.

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