America's Fatally Flawed Justice System

[Phil1111 1,260]

Within two years Brazil dealt with the crime, the trial and the sentencing of its president for treason. The former president was convicted of trying to cling to power after losing the 2022 election and has been sentenced to 27 years in the slammer.Jair Bolsonaro was a close buddy of the US King Donald Trump.Trump put tariffs on Brazil for proceeding with this trial.

On the other hand the US and its weakling president Biden did nothing for four years when King Trump spearheaded an insurrection. Now since Trump has been crowned again he has bullied the courts into empowering him even more. He has used his royal position to earn over $4.2 billion dollars in his first year. King Trump has had his royal clerks re-write history about the insurrection. Every day the King sees new CEOs of giant corporations who pay bribes in order to curry favours. Soon the Kings new B747, another gift/bribe,  completely adorned in gold will take flight. Ready to scour the globe for new bribes.

 

[wmw999 2,638]

But don’t worry; the right future president, and Bolsonaro will be pardoned or commuted. After all, Lula is serving as president again, and he was in jail (corruption) too.

My Bolsonarista friends generally hate Trump, and understand the parallels. But democracy is hard, especially when there isn’t as solid a middle class. Of course, the US is now working on that one, too.

Wendy P. 

[Phil1111 1,260]

37 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

But don’t worry; the right future president, and Bolsonaro will be pardoned or commuted. After all, Lula is serving as president again, and he was in jail (corruption) too.

My Bolsonarista friends generally hate Trump, and understand the parallels. But democracy is hard, especially when there isn’t as solid a middle class. Of course, the US is now working on that one, too.

Wendy P. 

Yeah be it Kings or Presidents, laws apply to the peasants and not the powerful.

Edited September 12 by Phil1111

[JoeWeber 3,019]

Just now, wmw999 said:

But don’t worry; the right future president, and Bolsonaro will be pardoned or commuted. After all, Lula is serving as president again, and he was in jail (corruption) too.

My Bolsonarista friends generally hate Trump, and understand the parallels. But democracy is hard, especially when there isn’t as solid a middle class. Of course, the US is now working on that one, too.

Wendy P. 

My Brazilian friends have said that US politics is for beginners.

[wmw999 2,638]

And my brother has said that corruption in Chicago makes Brazil look like amateurs… what a bunch of stretch goals, eh?

Wendy P. 

[kallend 2,212]

On 9/11/2025 at 8:31 PM, wmw999 said:

And my brother has said that corruption in Chicago makes Brazil look like amateurs… what a bunch of stretch goals, eh?

Wendy P. 

Does your brother live in Chicago?

We do, and my wife, who hails from Louisiana, says Chicago looks like amateur hour compared with those folks.

[JerryBaumchen 1,486]

2 hours ago, kallend said:

Does your brother live in Chicago?

We do, and my wife, who hails from Louisiana, says Chicago looks like amateur hour compared with those folks.

Hi John,

Back in 61-62, I was stationed in England.  One of the NCO's I worked with had a wife from Louisiana.  She had a shirt-tail relative who was running for Lt. Gov.  His platform was,  'Sure I'm a crook; but, not as much of a crook as the other guy.'

Right on par with, "I am not a crook.'

It is what it is.

Jerry Baumchen

[Phil1111 1,260]

1 hour ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi John,

Back in 61-62, I was stationed in England.  One of the NCO's I worked with had a wife from Louisiana.  She had a shirt-tail relative who was running for Lt. Gov.  His platform was,  'Sure I'm a crook; but, not as much of a crook as the other guy.'

Right on par with, "I am not a crook.'

It is what it is.

Jerry Baumchen

So you're saying that Trump stole his election platform from your wife's "shirt-tail relative'. Damn is there anything he won't steal?

[nigel99 680]

https://www.amazon.com.au/Plot-Against-King-Kash-Patel/dp/1955550123

I only just discovered that Kash wrote children’s books about he was a knight saving King Donald. It never ceases to amaze me that clowns are running the US.

[Phil1111 1,260]

This is the yacht owned by a middle east billionaire that Trump's daughter Tiffany spent the summer cruising on. "Phoenix 2, is a floating palace with two helipads, a swimming pool and an 18-foot bronze figurehead of a flaming phoenix rising from its bow. It is not available to charter. But when it last was, it rented for over $1.4 million per week, with the listing highlighting an Art Deco interior and custom Steinway piano."

Her hubby holds no political office yet is negotiating oil deals and infrastructure projects on behalf of US state policy. Here is his picture, he is on the far left.

This is a state dinner with Trump and a couple of Trump's friends.

I hate to be the one endlessly pointing out US corruption. But somebody has to do the dirty jobs.

[jakee 1,643]

4 hours ago, nigel99 said:

https://www.amazon.com.au/Plot-Against-King-Kash-Patel/dp/1955550123

I only just discovered that Kash wrote children’s books about he was a knight saving King Donald. It never ceases to amaze me that clowns are running the US.

It worked, didn’t it? Shameless sycophancy as trade for power doesn’t make them clowns. That’s just a coincidence

[nigel99 680]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-23/nsw-officer-charged-assault-hannah-thomas-greens-arrest/105805966

This is some local Aussie news. A police officer has been charged with assault for punching a protestor. Glad to see we still hold police accountable.

[nigel99 680]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-23/nsw-officer-charged-assault-hannah-thomas-greens-arrest/105805966

This is some local Aussie news. A police officer has been charged with assault for punching a protestor. Glad to see we still hold police accountable.

[kallend 2,212]

Trump is pressuring the DoJ to indict former FBI director Comey.

Assuming the DoJ is stupid enough to bring charges, how can any court give a fair trial after all the negative things that Trump, Navarro and Miller are posting online and in the right wing press?

You'd think Trump would owe Comey after he basically torpedoed Hillary's campaign in 2016.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/25/politics/james-comey-justice-department-trump-bondi-perjury-virginia

Edited September 25 by kallend
Spelin'

[GeorgiaDon 401]

Serious question: if the DOJ charges Comey (or any of several other people who have been threatened by Trump), wouldn't that open the door for all of the actual evidence against Trump to be presented in court as part of the defense?  Can Trump be so stupid, and/or so consumed by his need for retribution, that he doesn't understand that he will be the one who is most hurt by a trial? (That last part is a rhetorical question BTW).

[dogyks 30]

7 minutes ago, GeorgiaDon said:

Serious question: if the DOJ charges Comey (or any of several other people who have been threatened by Trump), wouldn't that open the door for all of the actual evidence against Trump to be presented in court as part of the defense?  Can Trump be so stupid, and/or so consumed by his need for retribution, that he doesn't understand that he will be the one who is most hurt by a trial? (That last part is a rhetorical question BTW).

You confuse Trump's motivations as being akin to those of mere mortals.  Captain Chaos thrives on turmoil, and is unburdened by anything resembling a conscience.

"Never wrestle with a pig.  You get dirty and the pig enjoys it."

[kallend 2,212]

Well, Comey's been indicted.

DoJ is now totally under Trump's thumb with not even a pretense of independence. 

One more step on the march to fascism, and his enablers cheer.

[jakee 1,643]

11 hours ago, GeorgiaDon said:

Serious question: if the DOJ charges Comey (or any of several other people who have been threatened by Trump), wouldn't that open the door for all of the actual evidence against Trump to be presented in court as part of the defense?  Can Trump be so stupid, and/or so consumed by his need for retribution, that he doesn't understand that he will be the one who is most hurt by a trial? (That last part is a rhetorical question BTW).

Do you think he cares, though? How does he get directly hurt by evidence in a trial? Thanks to the rampant corruption of the Republicans on the Supreme Court he has absolute immunity from any charges that would result, and in terms of PR his followers and client media will flat out ignore anything that reflects badly on him while taking the allegations against his opponents as gospel.

BTW, when it comes to retribution, Trump made sure that James Comey's daughter was fired from her position as a federal prosecutor earlier this year. A woman who (I assume) has a family and a mortgage losing her livelihood overnight for no reason other than retrbution against her father. Just imagine the pettiness, the vindictiveness, the willingness to abuse government power for personal reasons, frankly the absolute lack of understanding that he is supposed to act in the interests of the government and the people rather than the government existing to serve him that goes into doing something so low.

[dogyks 30]

4 hours ago, kallend said:

Well, Comey's been indicted.

DoJ is now totally under Trump's thumb with not even a pretense of independence. 

One more step on the march to fascism, and his enablers cheer.

The Good news is that the Mango Mussolini is old enough that his tenure as Disruptor in Chief is likely to be life-limited.

Given that his predecessor was not much better off than Wilson at the end of his term, I wouldn't count on the 25th amendment to effect a change.

The best we can hope for is a rapid and ignominious end to term; falling prey to too many McWhoppers is about right.  Becoming a Martyr is about the worst.

At this point, I figure we should try to find a competent replacement.  The collection of cretins, misfits and morons vying for the top slot are perhaps worse than the incumbent in the long run - impossible though that may sound.

So long as this administration is a temporary aberration, we have a shot.  We have to lay off the response to executive incompetence of simply picking somebody else, who then turns out to be every bit as bad.

Instead of the endless bitching, some political triage with historical, economic and sociological considerations would be refreshing.

I ask too much.

[billvon 3,169]

17 hours ago, GeorgiaDon said:

Serious question: if the DOJ charges Comey (or any of several other people who have been threatened by Trump), wouldn't that open the door for all of the actual evidence against Trump to be presented in court as part of the defense? 

?? Due to national security concerns, the trial proceedings will be kept secret.  Or something like that.

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 Can Trump be so stupid, and/or so consumed by his need for retribution, that he doesn't understand that he will be the one who is most hurt by a trial?

He won't be.  I mean, he's a rapist, a felon and is protecting pedophiles.  Think anything presented in the trial - even if it gets out - will hurt him?

[wmw999 2,638]

57 minutes ago, dogyks said:

At this point, I figure we should try to find a competent replacement.

Considering, as far as I can tell, your candidate for competent replacement doesn't exist, do you have any suggestions? 

Wendy P.

[JoeWeber 3,019]

Just now, wmw999 said:

Considering, as far as I can tell, your candidate for competent replacement doesn't exist, do you have any suggestions? 

Wendy P.

I nominate Richravizza. You guy's ought to have him straightened out by game time.

[normiss 915]

1 hour ago, JoeWeber said:

I nominate Richravizza. You guy's ought to have him straightened out by game time.

I'm confused on how ought is possessive. 

[wmw999 2,638]

5 minutes ago, normiss said:

I'm confused on how ought is possessive. 

 Go look up Mister Language Person — he explains it all. The apostrophe just indicates an S is coming up.

Wendy P. 

[JoeWeber 3,019]

Just now, wmw999 said:

 Go look up Mister Language Person — he explains it all. The apostrophe just indicates an S is coming up.

Wendy P. 

No need. I get my grammar lessons from the next President of the United States, the Honorable Rich Ravizza!