billvon 3,170 #151 September 26 12 hours ago, richravizza said: ? sorry I missed that, we didn't burn down cities or collaterally kill 31 for our cause. Why? Right. You only killed 13 last year. And in 2021 you only destroyed the US Capitol. So . . . yay? Quote Perhaps I was not concise, Why is the rights reaction to CK death the polar opposite of the lefts in floyds death? Simple. It's not. The right called Floyd a criminal, a druggie, a liar, he deserved to die etc. The hate came off FOX News in waves. It even showed up here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,639 #152 September 26 51 minutes ago, billvon said: Simple. It's not. The right called Floyd a criminal, a druggie, a liar, he deserved to die etc. The hate came off FOX News in waves. It even showed up here. He was, in fact, a criminal, a druggie, and probably a liar (every human lies). None of those justified killing him, any more than being a racist hate-spewing asshole justified killing Charlie Kirk. That's why we have laws. For now, at least. Wendy P. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,170 #153 September 26 21 minutes ago, wmw999 said: He was, in fact, a criminal, a druggie, and probably a liar (every human lies). None of those justified killing him, any more than being a racist hate-spewing asshole justified killing Charlie Kirk. Yep. True in both cases. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,260 #154 September 26 36 minutes ago, wmw999 said: ....That's why we have laws. For now, at least. Wendy P. Oh Wendy! All your friends in SC love you. You still think America is a land of laws. So sweet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,489 #155 September 26 14 hours ago, nigel99 said: You specifically said the rights reaction to both, and never mentioned the left in your question, which was a perfectly valid question on why the right only cares for one and not the other. Concise means short and to the point. Your previous post was short but not concise if you meant to say something different. Granted your posts are rarely short or concise, but usually almost incoherent ramblings so that post was a refreshing change. I’m sure you relate well to the lyrics in Pink Floyd’s Another brick in the wall. We don’t need no education Hi Nigel, You nailed it: your posts are rarely short or concise, but usually almost incoherent ramblings Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 30 #156 September 28 (edited) On 9/25/2025 at 10:04 PM, nigel99 said: You specifically said the rights reaction to both, and never mentioned the left in your question, which was a perfectly valid question on why the right only cares for one and not the other. Concise means short and to the point. Your previous post was short but not concise if you meant to say something different. Granted your posts are rarely short or concise, but usually almost incoherent ramblings so that post was a refreshing change. I’m sure you relate well to the lyrics in Pink Floyd’s Another brick in the wall. We don’t need no education Yep and I'd doubt You're able to highlight the differences in the two sides reaction. For a man in pursuit of a psychological degree, self deception, a touch negative confirmation bias,and a huge sense of moral and ethical sense of superiority and of course intelligence.The only brick in the wall I see is clearly red,a modern day Jacobins.But Quite usual for the Jacobins of our old guard. But thanks for the tune,teacher. Edited September 28 by richravizza Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 30 #157 September 28 On 9/26/2025 at 8:06 AM, billvon said: Right. You only killed 13 last year. And in 2021 you only destroyed the US Capitol. So . . . yay? Simple. It's not. The right called Floyd a criminal, a druggie, a liar, he deserved to die etc. The hate came off FOX News in waves. It even showed up here. We the (R)didn't kill anyone in the aftermath of Charlie's assinnation. Perhaps if CK were a career criminal; a druggie,a lier,an absent father and husband that is not in control of himself, then yes I would agree with you.In the lefts rationalization of their oppositions position that he deserved to die, not for his actions but for his words. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 30 #158 September 28 On 9/26/2025 at 8:59 AM, wmw999 said: He was, in fact, a criminal, a druggie, and probably a liar (every human lies). None of those justified killing him, any more than being a racist hate-spewing asshole justified killing Charlie Kirk. That's why we have laws. For now, at least. Wendy P. Wow I thought I'd give you a Like, then the habit of thought to which you attend. Racist hate spewing assholes.LOL from an Anti-Racist.CRT racial essentialist, I'll take that as a complement. I dare you to explore a differing perspective, something not inline with the cowardly consensus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 30 #159 September 28 On 9/26/2025 at 12:52 PM, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Nigel, You nailed it: your posts are rarely short or concise, but usually almost incoherent ramblings Jerry Baumchen We know you're an angle andall intelligent.It's always your way or the Highway. I'll except Rebel or rabble more likely and only Incoherent only to a no kings protester. Get used to it buttercup. If you really want to comprehend my ramblings, "try harder." But that will require less non righteous indignation,one of the many misconceptions of the well educated Left. "Not righteous indignation" refers to an unhealthy, selfish, or destructive form of anger that stems from personal offense or a desire for retribution rather than a genuine concern for justice and the good of others. In contrast, righteous indignation is a principled, controlled response to injustice or sin, focused on restoration and truth, and driven by love and a desire to uphold moral principles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,639 #160 September 28 1 hour ago, richravizza said: I dare you to explore a differing perspective, something not inline with the cowardly consensus I lived in the south of the US for a large number of years. Been exposed to plenty of people who espouse the kind of color blindness that just happens to find fault with everyone not like themselves. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 30 #161 September 28 (edited) 59 minutes ago, wmw999 said: I lived in the south of the US for a large number of years. Been exposed to plenty of people who espouse the kind of color blindness that just happens to find fault with everyone not like themselves. Wendy P. I lived in the South for a number of years,too.I was raised in the NE. Opening the door for a woman regardless of color in still a habit.I don't think Color Blindness means what you think it means. Did you read Owells work ? He explains in a six layers deep sort of way,how mass delusions can consume us,every thought becomes political. Misconceptions of the others and their values are weaponized. Now that the Overton window is shifting the old misconceptions will die. No longer will the meanings of simple words be twisted from, with to on, to describe our foundational principles. The person on the left is now at least 100 yrds away and in prone position with a mauser How men were allowed to exploit women's sports,Or how here and now we find our country is systemically racist, is deeply concerning how reality can be flipped on its head as long as the presumed consensus,the status quo is maintained with a dopamine hit "like" to affirm us . Take a step back and look how far the left has gone,or start a thread on when the left has gone to far,What is the Left's self correction mechanism? In Cali the sacred bond between a child and their parents has been severed; as the State school system knows what is best for your children, and serious psychological issues can be affirmed and hidden from ones family in a Orwellian twist of compassion and virtue. We haven't seen this type of Fascism since..Mao's revolution or the Stalinist grand vision.That which supports the revolution is ethical,Seems like a good explanation. as does Mao's four olds campaign. Edited September 28 by richravizza Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,645 #162 September 28 3 hours ago, richravizza said: Yep and I'd doubt You're able to highlight the differences in the two sides reaction. Everyone who thinks about it for two seconds can highlight the difference. A representative of the government killed George Floyd in a way that large parts of the government approved of. A random guy with no known political affiliations killed Charlie Kirk. Who would you go and demonstrate against? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 30 #163 September 28 4 hours ago, jakee said: Everyone who thinks about it for two seconds can highlight the difference. A representative of the government killed George Floyd in a way that large parts of the government approved of. A random guy with no known political affiliations killed Charlie Kirk. Who would you go and demonstrate against? NO Known political affiliation killed Kirk is that how we wash our hands? An assassination because of what he said as opposed to gf behavior. The Lefts rhetoric has no bounds,don't know who to protest but I do know all it took was,Two semesters,furry friends and notices bulges is fascists on campus, an existential threat to love. A modern day Brainwashing. IDK,Who should we protest? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,645 #164 September 28 21 minutes ago, richravizza said: I do know all it took was,Two semesters,furry friends and notices bulges is fascists on campus, an existential threat to love Wut? 22 minutes ago, richravizza said: IDK,Who should we protest? Yeah exactly, who would you protest against? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 30 #165 September 29 (edited) 4 hours ago, jakee said: Wut? Yeah exactly, who would you protest against? Those who took words like Hitler and nazi's as well as the lives of some six million and evaporated them and the evil to nothing..evaporate the holocaust to nothing more than political rhetoric, a meme.Diminished them,the gravity of that situation with an(R) as lazy as the use of the term fascism. It's the only true evil most are taught but for the butchers of the left, the revolutions were just getting started. Back to your question, I subscribe to the radical Peter Boghossian's approach...burn it all down. lol Edited September 29 by richravizza Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,170 #166 September 29 1 hour ago, richravizza said: Those who took words like Hitler and nazi's Yeah that would be damning wouldn't it? You'd definitely protest THEM! Hitler: Jews will “poison the blood of others" Trump: Immigrants are "poisoning the blood of the country" Hitler: "Individual vices always reoccur in peoples as long as their inner nature, their genetic composition, does not undergo any essential change." Trump: "[Immigrants are] murderers. I believe this - it's in their genes, and we got a lot of bad genes in our country right now." Hitler: "I have the right to remove millions of an inferior race that breed like vermin." Trump: "We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country." Hitler: "An opponent which consists not of human beings, but of animals." Trump: "That's what they've done. I said no, they're not humans. They're animals. I'll use the word animals because that's what they are." Hitler: "With every mingling of Aryan blood with that of lower peoples, the result was the end of the cultured people." Trump: "You gotta get these people back where they came from. You've got no choice. You're going to lose your culture. You're going to lose your country." Hitler: "This scum of the nation." Trump: "It's the enemy from within, all the scum that we have to deal with." Hitler: "The hour of retribution will come!" Trump: "I am your retribution." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,645 #167 September 29 5 hours ago, richravizza said: Those who took words like Hitler and nazi's as well as the lives of some six million and evaporated them and the evil to nothing..evaporate the holocaust to nothing more than political rhetoric, a meme. You’d take to the streets to protest against a nothing meme? Why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogyks 30 #168 September 29 I'm not quite sure what to make of this piece: https://share.newsbreak.com/f812n9pv It is entirely too elaborate to be simple flamebait, and I'm not sure whether its bias is tactical or fundamental. We tend to confuse symptoms with problems and vice versa, and many of the 'solutions' posed by either side are quintessential 'Schlimmverbesserungen.' We are in Interesting Times, and I think Captain Chaos is a reflection of that reality. The denial of Nasty Realities has resulted in endemic Bad Craziness. What the hell, break out the popcorn and enjoy the show. It's not going to be boring Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,260 #169 September 29 16 hours ago, richravizza said: NO Known political affiliation killed Kirk is that how we wash our hands? An assassination because of what he said as opposed to gf behavior. The Lefts rhetoric has no bounds,don't know who to protest but I do know all it took was,Two semesters,furry friends and notices bulges is fascists on campus, an existential threat to love. A modern day Brainwashing. IDK,Who should we protest? Speaking of behaviour, here is a picture of the weekends Mormon church shooter Thomas Jacob Sanford, in Michigan. Proudly wearing his hero's merchandise. Note the slogan under Trump's picture "Liberals cry again" 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 916 #170 September 29 4 hours ago, dogyks said: I'm not quite sure what to make of this piece: https://share.newsbreak.com/f812n9pv It is entirely too elaborate to be simple flamebait, and I'm not sure whether its bias is tactical or fundamental. We tend to confuse symptoms with problems and vice versa, and many of the 'solutions' posed by either side are quintessential 'Schlimmverbesserungen.' We are in Interesting Times, and I think Captain Chaos is a reflection of that reality. The denial of Nasty Realities has resulted in endemic Bad Craziness. What the hell, break out the popcorn and enjoy the show. It's not going to be boring ohhh, AI generated news stories! Yay for MOAR disinformation! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogyks 30 #171 September 29 2 hours ago, normiss said: ohhh, AI generated news stories! Yay for MOAR disinformation! AI, that makes sense. The piece certainly has a 'WTF?!' quality to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,170 #172 September 29 2 hours ago, normiss said: AI generated news stories! Sadly it's based on a conspiracy theory "reality." Medbeds or biobeds that cure all ills are part of Qanon lore. They were probably loosely based on Star Trek or some other fictional show like that, but the Qanoners really believe that 1) these beds exist and 2) only "they" get access to them. ("They" ranges from liberals to democratic leaders to the Clintons.) Trump saw one of those conspiracy theories and ran with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 916 #173 September 30 7 hours ago, billvon said: Sadly it's based on a conspiracy theory "reality." Medbeds or biobeds that cure all ills are part of Qanon lore. They were probably loosely based on Star Trek or some other fictional show like that, but the Qanoners really believe that 1) these beds exist and 2) only "they" get access to them. ("They" ranges from liberals to democratic leaders to the Clintons.) Trump saw one of those conspiracy theories and ran with it. Newsbreak.com has some interesting history as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
