Violent Left Extremists

[richravizza 28]

 

3 hours ago, GeorgiaDon said:

So if I understand this correctly, the best way to reduce the number of people getting killed is by killing more people?  Sounds about...not right.  State sanctioned killing is still killing.

Was that a reference to Comos NY Covid policy,dereliction of protocol,or just general lockdown policies? I believe we have those numbers,in excess deaths and risks of cancer in the Vaccinated group.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-average-baseline 

 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40416011/ 

 

 

 

[billvon 3,151]

15 hours ago, richravizza said:

Was that a reference to Comos NY Covid policy,dereliction of protocol,or just general lockdown policies?

Nope.  Your links show that there was a spike in deaths in Japan after omnicron hit, which was a more virulent strain.  This happened in several countries.  I am sure you believe that the second link "proves" that the vaccine caused it, but in fact it says that "the truth is yet to be established."

And just a note - copy and pasting an anti-vax opinion does not demonstrate that you are an independent thinker.  In fact it demonstrates the exact opposite - that you are simply along for the ride on the right wing bandwagon.

[billvon 3,151]

Trump right after the killing:

"For years, those on the radical left have compared wonderful Americans like Charlie to Nazis and the world’s worst mass murderers and criminals.  This kind of rhetoric is directly responsible for the terrorism that we’re seeing in our country today.”

Trump after finding out the killer was a gay-hating, right-leaning malcontent:

Reporter: “How are you holding up?"

Trump: “I think very good.  And by the way, right there you see all the trucks; they just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House. Which is something they’ve been trying to get as you know for about 150 years, and it’s gonna be a beauty, it’ll be an absolutely magnificent structure.  And I just see all the trucks, they just started, so it’ll get done uh very nicely and it’ll be one of the best anywhere in the world, actually.” 

[jakee 1,625]

On 9/11/2025 at 1:42 PM, base698 said:

MSNBC anchor was just fired over it.  

Jesse Watters on Fox said “And we are going to avenge Charlie’s death in the way that Charlie wanted to be avenged.”

And today a bunch of right wing extremists did begin to take revenge with a message Charlie Kirk would have approved of: Black students across the US were targeted this week by coordinated racist death threats, forcing at least seven historically Black colleges into emergency lockdowns just a day after far-right activist Charlie Kirk was killed at Utah Valley University.

...The manifesto was said to contain “extremely graphic threats of gun violence” and stated the author was “coming for only n******”, citing the number of Black students as taking away from a “safe space” for white people.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/12/black-students-colleges-racist-threats

Should Jesse Watters be fired for inciting this wave of right wing terrorism?

Edited yesterday at 06:16 PM by jakee

[JerryBaumchen 1,484]

Hi folks,

IMO horse-puckey at it finest:  “In the wake of numerous attacks on our way of life, the destruction of the rule of law, and the murder of innocent Americans, prominent and unknown alike, we must take every step to follow the money and uncover the force behind the NGOs, donors, media, public officials, and all entities driving this coordinated attack,”

Republicans call for probe into left's influence after Charlie Kirk killing

From what I have been reading, this not what drove this guy to kill:  the NGOs, donors, media, public officials, and all entities driving this coordinated attack

Just more wasted blather from the unknowing far right.

Jerry Baumchen

[billvon 3,151]

32 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

IMO horse-puckey at it finest:  “In the wake of numerous attacks on our way of life, the destruction of the rule of law, and the murder of innocent Americans, prominent and unknown alike, we must take every step to follow the money and uncover the force behind the NGOs, donors, media, public officials, and all entities driving this coordinated attack,”

Republicans call for probe into left's influence after Charlie Kirk killing

From what I have been reading, this not what drove this guy to kill:  the NGOs, donors, media, public officials, and all entities driving this coordinated attack

Just more wasted blather from the unknowing far right.

Jerry Baumchen

Indeed, the killer was a gay-hating conservative.  Perhaps in the wake of numerous attacks on our way of life, the destruction of the rule of law, and the murder of innocent Americans, prominent and unknown alike, we must take every step to follow the money and uncover the force behind the republicans driving this coordinated attack.

[JoeWeber 3,005]

Just now, billvon said:

Indeed, the killer was a gay-hating conservative.  Perhaps in the wake of numerous attacks on our way of life, the destruction of the rule of law, and the murder of innocent Americans, prominent and unknown alike, we must take every step to follow the money and uncover the force behind the republicans driving this coordinated attack.

Was Charlie actually Gay? Charlie is also a girls name by the way and, of course I'll defer to those with better gaydar, I thought he looked Gay. There has to be more to this than the MSM is saying.

[jakee 1,625]

22 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Was Charlie actually Gay? Charlie is also a girls name by the way and, of course I'll defer to those with better gaydar, I thought he looked Gay. There has to be more to this than the MSM is saying.

And how would the shooter have known he was gay? There's only one rational explanation - he was a disgruntled rent boy who Charlie used then stiffed on the bill... and no-one on the right can possibly be offended by that explanation.

[billvon 3,151]

36 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Was Charlie actually Gay?

Not to my knowledge.  I don't think the shooter intended that as an attack on Kirk - just as a way to spread an anti-gay message.

[JoeWeber 3,005]

Just now, billvon said:

Not to my knowledge.  I don't think the shooter intended that as an attack on Kirk - just as a way to spread an anti-gay message.

Well I think he was Gay. Weak chin, skinny jeans, what more do you need?

[Phil1111 1,239]

1 hour ago, JoeWeber said:

Well I think he was Gay. Weak chin, skinny jeans, what more do you need?

A republican senator stated that there "are no gays in Utah". Probably because they all love Jebus.

[nigel99 660]

On 9/11/2025 at 7:05 PM, base698 said:

The left are the ones assassinating their opponents like modern Bolsheviks. I'm not even going to count the cheerleading and happy claps for these incidents. Get on a Reddit thread or Bluesky and you'll see countless justifications of violence. "I bet he was a nazi" "if he wasn't at the rally he wouldn't have died" "They have insurance".  
  
Even worse the left routinely eats their own and excommunicates people. I'd be worried just because you can never be too left. What Shibboleth will you violate and end up a target?  
  
I will acknowledge some of them, on both the right and left, fall probably more on the mentally ill side and are a case of "choose the form of your destructor" where the mentally ill person uses whatever the TV screens say as the justification.

Kirk is going to turn out to be more political violence but I'll keep that one off the official list until official motive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Tacoma_immigration_detention_center_attack

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/04/us/luigi-mangione-diary-entries-murder-case

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Capital_Jewish_Museum_shooting

https://nypost.com/2025/06/27/us-news/college-student-accused-of-torching-teslas-is-facing-stiff-federal-prison-sentence/

https://nypost.com/2025/04/07/us-news/trans-nashville-school-shooter-audrey-hale-ranted-about-wanting-to-kill-all-the-white-kids-in-newly-revealed-diary-entries/

https://www.wweek.com/news/courts/2020/09/03/vice-plans-to-air-interview-with-oregon-man-confessing-to-killing-at-portland-protest/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Tacoma_immigration_detention_center_attack

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/new-york-mourns-loss-nypd-officers

https://nypost.com/2025/08/28/us-news/minneapolis-school-shooter-robin-westman-confessed-he-was-tired-of-being-trans/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Donald_Trump_in_Florida

https://abc7chicago.com/post/more-than-100-buildings-damaged-at-least-40-destroyed-in-kenosha-unrest/6402998/

https://www.axios.com/2020/09/16/riots-cost-property-damage

Older ones

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/new-york-mourns-loss-nypd-officers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_baseball_shooting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Berkeley_protests

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Donald_Trump_Las_Vegas_rally_incident

 

See rhetoric like this on this forum: 

 

Seems now the facts are in you have another right wing dot for your data and one less left wing dot. 

[wmw999 2,622]

22 minutes ago, nigel99 said:

Seems now the facts are in you have another right wing dot for your data and one less left wing dot. 

Well, that just means it’s mental illness, and you can’t do anything about mental illness. If it’s a left-leaning person then it’s political.

Wendy P. 

[kallend 2,194]

15 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

Well, that just means it’s mental illness, and you can’t do anything about mental illness. If it’s a left-leaning person then it’s political.

Wendy P. 

Trump revoked Obama era regulations that had made it more difficult for the menatlly ill to acquire firearms.

[kallend 2,194]

5 hours ago, billvon said:

Trump right after the killing:

"For years, those on the radical left have compared wonderful Americans like Charlie to Nazis and the world’s worst mass murderers and criminals.  This kind of rhetoric is directly responsible for the terrorism that we’re seeing in our country today.”

Trump after finding out the killer was a gay-hating, right-leaning malcontent:

Reporter: “How are you holding up?"

Trump: “I think very good.  And by the way, right there you see all the trucks; they just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House. Which is something they’ve been trying to get as you know for about 150 years, and it’s gonna be a beauty, it’ll be an absolutely magnificent structure.  And I just see all the trucks, they just started, so it’ll get done uh very nicely and it’ll be one of the best anywhere in the world, actually.” 

 

[normiss 910]

29 minutes ago, kallend said:

Trump revoked Obama era regulations that had made it more difficult for the menatlly ill to acquire firearms.

We can't have those people making laws.

We'll have to have those removed from the official records now.

[Phil1111 1,239]

2 hours ago, nigel99 said:

Seems now the facts are in you have another right wing dot for your data and one less left wing dot. 

I think an apology is in order for slandering us all here. The suspect was raised in a home by two card carrying republican parents.

 

Edited 21 hours ago by Phil1111

[billvon 3,151]

1 hour ago, Phil1111 said:

I think an apology is in order for slandering us all here.

Oh please.  Give him a day; he'll be blaming it all on Hunter Biden.

[nigel99 660]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

Oh please.  Give him a day; he'll be blaming it all on Hunter Biden.

To his credit base will often apologise or change his views when presented with facts.

[jakee 1,625]

11 hours ago, nigel99 said:

Seems now the facts are in you have another right wing dot for your data and one less left wing dot. 

In fairness I have not yet seen a single fact that suggests the shooter was right of center. And it seems quite unlikely that will turn out to be the case.

[billvon 3,151]

7 hours ago, jakee said:

In fairness I have not yet seen a single fact that suggests the shooter was right of center. 

I think the anti-gay slur etched on the rounds suggest that - as do his social media pictures showing him with several guns, and sporting a Trump Halloween costume.

[billvon 3,151]

Trump on violent right wing extremism:

"I'll tell you something that's gonna get me in trouble but I couldn't care less. The radicals on the right oftentimes are radical because they don't want to see crime. They don’t want to see crime. They’re saying, ‘We don’t want these people coming in. We don’t want you burning our shopping centers. We don’t want you shooting our people in the middle of the street.’ "

[jakee 1,625]

35 minutes ago, billvon said:

I think the anti-gay slur etched on the rounds suggest that - as do his social media pictures showing him with several guns, and sporting a Trump Halloween costume.

He’s a (I assume given the circumstances) socially awkward college age kid who’s spent too much time on gaming sites and message boards. It might just be something he thought was funny because he’s a dumb kid who hasn’t been out in the world much. It equally might have been something he thought would get under Kirk’s skin if Kirk survived to see it. It might be something he thought would annoy the cops when they found the rounds, since LE in general leans strongly right. And he also engraved anti-fascist song lyrics that were (supposedly) popular among the Italian partisan resistance - a movement with a decent proportion of communists among their number.

The guns. Yes, it’s more or less a given that a shooter has one or more guns. Obviously. Yet not every shooter is from the right, therefore not everyone with a gun is from the right. Obviously.

Halloween. Yeah… as a general rule that’s when you put on a costume of something you think is scary, not something that makes you feel warm and fuzzy.

Edited 4 hours ago by jakee

[JoeWeber 3,005]

Just now, jakee said:

He’s a (I assume given the circumstances) socially awkward college age kid who’s spent too much time on gaming sites and message boards. It might just be something he thought was funny because he’s a dumb kid who hasn’t been out in the world much. It equally might have been something he thought would get under Kirk’s skin if Kirk survived to see it. It might be something he thought would annoy the cops when they found the rounds, since LE in general leans strongly right. And he also engraved anti-fascist song lyrics that were (supposedly) popular among the Italian partisan resistance - a movement with a decent proportion of communists among their number.

The guns. Yes, it’s more or less a given that a shooter has one or more guns. Obviously. Yet not every shooter is from the right, therefore not everyone with a gun is from the right. Obviously.

Halloween. Yeah… as a general rule that’s when you put on a costume of something you think is scary, not something that makes you feel warm and fuzzy.

Now you are reducing it to why. I don't care why, I'm just glad he wasn't black, gay, trans, or a libtard DZO. The bastards can't hang it on the left without their normal pretzel twisting and hypocritical projections. On my scorecard we caught a good cut.

[Phil1111 1,239]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

Trump on violent right wing extremism:

"I'll tell you something that's gonna get me in trouble but I couldn't care less. The radicals on the right oftentimes are radical because they don't want to see crime. They don’t want to see crime. They’re saying, ‘We don’t want these people coming in. We don’t want you burning our shopping centers. We don’t want you shooting our people in the middle of the street.’ "

He forgot to put Kyle Rittenhouse into that equation.