Violent Left Extremists

[base698 20]

The left are the ones assassinating their opponents like modern Bolsheviks. I'm not even going to count the cheerleading and happy claps for these incidents. Get on a Reddit thread or Bluesky and you'll see countless justifications of violence. "I bet he was a nazi" "if he wasn't at the rally he wouldn't have died" "They have insurance".  
  
Even worse the left routinely eats their own and excommunicates people. I'd be worried just because you can never be too left. What Shibboleth will you violate and end up a target?  
  
I will acknowledge some of them, on both the right and left, fall probably more on the mentally ill side and are a case of "choose the form of your destructor" where the mentally ill person uses whatever the TV screens say as the justification.

Kirk is going to turn out to be more political violence but I'll keep that one off the official list until official motive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Tacoma_immigration_detention_center_attack

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/04/us/luigi-mangione-diary-entries-murder-case

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Capital_Jewish_Museum_shooting

https://nypost.com/2025/06/27/us-news/college-student-accused-of-torching-teslas-is-facing-stiff-federal-prison-sentence/

https://nypost.com/2025/04/07/us-news/trans-nashville-school-shooter-audrey-hale-ranted-about-wanting-to-kill-all-the-white-kids-in-newly-revealed-diary-entries/

https://www.wweek.com/news/courts/2020/09/03/vice-plans-to-air-interview-with-oregon-man-confessing-to-killing-at-portland-protest/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Tacoma_immigration_detention_center_attack

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/new-york-mourns-loss-nypd-officers

https://nypost.com/2025/08/28/us-news/minneapolis-school-shooter-robin-westman-confessed-he-was-tired-of-being-trans/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Donald_Trump_in_Florida

https://abc7chicago.com/post/more-than-100-buildings-damaged-at-least-40-destroyed-in-kenosha-unrest/6402998/

https://www.axios.com/2020/09/16/riots-cost-property-damage

Older ones

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> The [FBI](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation "Federal Bureau of Investigation") and the Metropolitan Police Department investigated jointly "to determine motive/intent and whether a hate crime/terrorism nexus exists." During his FBI interview, Corkins was asked how he chose his target. His response was "Southern Poverty Law lists anti-gay groups. I found them online."[[37]]Corkins had served as a volunteer at an [LGBT](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT "LGBT") community center.[[33]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Family_Research_Council_attack#cite_note-todaystv-33)[[42]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Family_Research_Council_attack#cite_note-cbsshoot-42)

> In January 2013, Corkins pleaded guilty to two charges in the [District of Columbia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia "District of Columbia"), possession of a handgun during a violent crime and assault with intent to kill, and interstate transportation of a firearm and ammunition, a federal charge

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/new-york-mourns-loss-nypd-officers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_baseball_shooting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Berkeley_protests

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Donald_Trump_Las_Vegas_rally_incident

 

See rhetoric like this on this forum: 

 

[jakee 1,625]

1 hour ago, base698 said:

The left are the ones assassinating their opponents like modern Bolsheviks.

Melissa Hortman says you're full of shit.

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Even worse the left routinely eats their own and excommunicates people. I'd be worried just because you can never be too left.

Because we all know there's no such thing as being not MAGA enough.

1 hour ago, base698 said:

See rhetoric like this on this forum: 

On this forum? Wake me up when any Democrat Senators start laughing about Kirk's murder in public, as happened with at least one prominent Republican after the Minnesota killings.

 

Anyway as said to Jay have you no respect for his loved ones in this difficult time? Have you no self respect? This is the time for thoughts and prayers to his family, not cheap and cynical political point scoring. For shame, sir!

Edited Thursday at 12:34 PM by jakee

[wmw999 2,622]

And their work is complete. Yet another person who could engage in dialog now sees others only as either like minded or enemies.

Wendy P. 

[Phil1111 1,239]

1 hour ago, base698 said:

The left are the ones assassinating their opponents like modern Bolsheviks......

See rhetoric like this on this forum: 

 

More on the left have been killed in the US than those on the right. But its not a football game. The mere fact that you believe only the right are being targeted shows you're deep in the warrens bias.

"Modern Bolsheviks" spoken like a true MAGA trooper. Isn't a White Christian conservative the true antithesis of a communist liberal? If you're not MAGA your not conservative and will be run out of the political party. If you're not Christian you're not conservative?

No the Bolsheviks is MAGA and who they choose as their leaders. "The GOP has a new superstar and his name is Kyle Rittenhouse. On Monday night in Phoenix, Rittenhouse appeared at AmericaFest, a conference organized by the MAGA-friendly youth group Turning Point USA. " In case anyone misses it Turning Point USA was started by Charlie Kirk. 

Edited Thursday at 12:34 PM by Phil1111

[base698 20]

3 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

More on the left have been killed in the US than those on the right. But its not a football game. The mere fact that you believe only the right are being targeted shows you're deep in the warrens bias.

I’m willing to be convinced if you provide links.  Since 2015, it’s been riots, bombings and assassinations coming from the left. The only right attacks close to the modern era are Dylan Roof, Giffords, and abortion bombings pre 2010.

 

59 minutes ago, jakee said:

Wake me up when any Democrat Senators start laughing about Kirk's murder in public, as happened with at least one prominent Republican after the Minnesota killings.

MSNBC anchor was just fired over it.  Social media is loaded with celebration.  See also, Luigi.  

Silence is violence.  

[gowlerk 2,296]

Live by the sword, die by the sword. The following is a copy and paste job, not my work....

 

Charlie Kirk said: “It was huge mistake to pass the Civil Rights Act back in 1964.” That is his exact quote. In complete context.

Charlie Kirk said: “Jewish money is ruining American culture.” That is his exact quote. In complete context.

Charlie Kirk also said: “Gay people are destructive, and they should be put to death.” Yes, that is his exact word-for-word quote. In complete context. On national television.

Charlie Kirk also stated, one hour after a tragic school shooting in Lewistown that left 26 dead: “I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights.” Re-read that sentence, above. Yes, that is his exact word-for-word quote. In complete context.

Charlie Kirk also stated this: “We have to tell our babies to stop crying.” Yes, that is his exact word-for-word quote. In complete context. He was discussing the starvation of those in Gaza. Yes, that is his exact word-for-word quote. In complete context.

Charlie Kirk also stated this: "I can't stand the word empathy. I think empathy is a made up New Age term that does a lot of damage.” Yes, that is his exact word-for-word quote. In complete context.

Murder for political reasons is ALWAYS wrong. Always. My heart sincerely goes out to his wife, and his two children. They did not deserve any of this. They are innocent.

Edited Thursday at 01:16 PM by gowlerk

[base698 20]

https://x.com/babybeginner/status/1966064272552906996?ref_url=

 

 

[wmw999 2,622]

30 minutes ago, base698 said:

Silence is violence.

Now there’s a mantra. So your silence after the targeting of Democratic people in Minnesota, the kidnapping attempt on Gretchen Whitmer in Wisconsin, are also violence? 

Wendy P. 

[Phil1111 1,239]

47 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

Live by the sword, die by the sword. The following is a copy and past job, not my work....

Murder for political reasons is ALWAYS wrong. Always. My heart sincerely goes out to his wife, and his two children. They did not deserve any of this. They are innocent.

Agree everything he and his wife espoused was White Christian nationalism . Turning Point was all about his facade of Christianity to legitimize the worst of MAGA politics.

Erika Kirk was an active participant in Turning Point USA, She gave introductions for her husband, gave personal speeches at Turning Point events, had her own personal podcasts and was active politically in the MAGA movement.

Edited Thursday at 01:55 PM by Phil1111

[Phil1111 1,239]

19 minutes ago, base698 said:

https://x.com/babybeginner/status/1966064272552906996?ref_url=

 

 

FYI its against forum rules to cut and paste without personal comments included.

That aside, your FOX MSM is all in as is your president with that message. Do you actually have any personal ideas that approach the centre of political thought?

[jakee 1,625]

51 minutes ago, base698 said:

I’m willing to be convinced if you provide links.  Since 2015, it’s been riots, bombings and assassinations coming from the left. The only right attacks close to the modern era are Dylan Roof, Giffords, and abortion bombings pre 2010.

Melissa Hortman still says you're full of shit.

And those are the only ones? Seriously? You can't even remember Charlottesville as an attack? You can't even remember Jan fucking 6 as a riot? What reality do you live in?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism#Further_reports

51 minutes ago, base698 said:

MSNBC anchor was just fired over it.  

a) Not an anchor.

b) Not an elected representative

c) Didn't joke or laugh about it.

d) So he was fired. Has Senator Lee faced any repercussions from the right for openly celebrating the assassination of Democrat politicians? Did he even lose his committee chair? Or did the Republicans not care one bit about it, just as you don't care?

Edited Thursday at 01:35 PM by jakee

[base698 20]

10 minutes ago, jakee said:

And those are the only ones? Seriously? You can't even remember Charlottesville as an attack? You can't even remember Jan fucking 6 as a riot? What reality do you live in?

I actually have a list going and did have Jan 6, but not Charlottesville.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dylann_Roof

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_United_States_mail_bombing_attempts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally

Including, but they are older than this current modern era, and feel the 2010s and onward is where the focus should be...

Apparently the Hortman one is also anti-abortion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melissa_Hortman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence

Edited Thursday at 01:44 PM by base698

[jakee 1,625]

22 minutes ago, base698 said:

I actually have a list going and did have Jan 6,

And yet you failed to mention it. Your silence means you approve of the violence?

23 minutes ago, base698 said:

but not Charlottesville.  

How could it possibly not have been on your list? Are you so ill informed that you didn't know about it, or again does your silence mean you approve of the violence?

24 minutes ago, base698 said:

Apparently the Hortman one is also anti-abortion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melissa_Hortman

Exactly - anti-abortion being a key platform of the Republican party in general and Trump/Maga wing in particular, with the murderer being a right wing Trump voter. Yet it didn't make your list. Even after being told about it twice it still doesn't appear to be on your list. Does your silence mean you approve of the violence?

And what about Senator Lee? Do you still have nothing to say about his comments? Don't they matter?

[base698 20]

22 minutes ago, jakee said:

How could it possibly not have been on your list? Are you so ill informed that you didn't know about it, or again does your silence mean you approve of the violence?

Oversight.  Just made the list.  Found another.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_El_Paso_Walmart_shooting

 

24 minutes ago, jakee said:

Yet it didn't make your list

It was on the list just jumbled in the wrong spot.

 

Currently if you count since 2010 and include obviously mentally ill nutters whether left or right it’s 19 left instances to 5 right wing.  I have 4 mass shooting incidents that are unconfirmed either way.

[olofscience 495]

17 minutes ago, base698 said:

it’s 19 left instances to 5 right wing

Now do the body count on each side.

[base698 20]

7 minutes ago, olofscience said:

Now do the body count on each side.

Not yet complete:
 

================================================================================
SUMMARY STATISTICS
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Incident Count by Political Leaning:
Political_Leaning
Left           14
Unconfirmed     6
Right           5
Name: count, dtype: int64

Total Fatalities by Political Leaning:
Political_Leaning
Left           14.0
Right          39.0
Unconfirmed    10.0
Name: Fatalities, dtype: float64

Total Injuries by Political Leaning:
Political_Leaning
Left           12.0
Right          71.0
Unconfirmed    19.0
Name: Injuries, dtype: float64

[kallend 2,194]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/president-trump-made-it-easier-mentally-ill-get-guns-when-n1039301

[kallend 2,194]

17 minutes ago, base698 said:

Not yet complete:
 

================================================================================
SUMMARY STATISTICS
================================================================================

Incident Count by Political Leaning:
Political_Leaning
Left           14
Unconfirmed     6
Right           5
Name: count, dtype: int64

Total Fatalities by Political Leaning:
Political_Leaning
Left           14.0
Right          39.0
Unconfirmed    10.0
Name: Fatalities, dtype: float64

Total Injuries by Political Leaning:
Political_Leaning
Left           12.0
Right          71.0
Unconfirmed    19.0
Name: Injuries, dtype: float64

[kallend 2,194]

877 kids killed by gun violence so far this  year in the USA.

I don't hear much outrage from the GOP about that.

Yet an outspoken gun advocate gets shot and you'd think the sky has fallen.

[kallend 2,194]

Maybe someone can explain why I should care about the shooting death of a gun advocate who said a few gun deaths are "worth it" and 

"I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage."

Edited Thursday at 03:33 PM by kallend

[jakee 1,625]

48 minutes ago, base698 said:

Oversight.  Just made the list.  Found another.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_El_Paso_Walmart_shooting

If you've missed several of the most famous incidents of political violence from the Trump era then how many others do you think you've missed?

51 minutes ago, base698 said:

It was on the list just jumbled in the wrong spot.

If it was on your list then why did you pretend it wasn't? Were you entirely ignorant of the details or were you trying to hide it because it didn't suit your narrative?

54 minutes ago, base698 said:

Currently if you count since 2010 and include obviously mentally ill nutters whether left or right it’s 19 left instances to 5 right wing.  I have 4 mass shooting incidents that are unconfirmed either way.

No, that's what happens if you count - and we've already established that you've made multiple unfathomable omissions of extremely high profile, well known events. So what credence should anyone give your count?

And you're still silent on the causes of right wing political violence. Do you not condemn it? Do you not care about it? What should we read into your silence?

You still haven't even said that Senator Lee's comments on the Hortman shootings were wrong. Are you too blinded by bias to even be able to do that? To condemn the fact that a senior elected Republican politician feels it is appropriate to joke in public about political violence - and that his party doesn't care? Go on, see if you can do it.

[Phil1111 1,239]

7 minutes ago, kallend said:

877 kids killed by gun violence so far this  year in the USA.

I don't hear much outrage from the GOP about that.

Yet an outspoken gun advocate gets shot and you'd think the sky has fallen.

Well actually there is a GOP action plan to protect kids in America. The MAHA plan for healthier kids includes 128 ideas, but few details "The Make America Healthy Again Commission, led by Kennedy, identified four potential drivers behind rising rates of chronic disease among children, including poor diet, chemical exposure, lack of physical activity and chronic stress, as well as "overmedicalization" – which the commission describes as "a concerning trend of overprescribing medications to children."

2 hours ago, base698 said:

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Silence is violence.  

Well yes it is because for MAGA, Trump, Christian nationalists the silence over the largest killer of American children is absolute. For third straight year, firearms killed more children and teens, ages 1 to 17, than any other cause including car crashes and cancer

The hypocrisy of conservatives is absolute.

[dogyks 24]

3 hours ago, wmw999 said:

And their work is complete. Yet another person who could engage in dialog now sees others only as either like minded or enemies.

Wendy P. 

I hate to break it to you, but if someone adheres to an ideology that stipulates my immediate death, I take it at face value and seek to avoid them at all costs.

They may try to reassure me that they don't follow those particular dicta, but you'll forgive me if I err on the side of caution.

FWIW, I do not wish to kill anyone.  I might find it amusing if an awful person comes to grief, but I will not contribute to their demise.

[base698 20]

20 minutes ago, jakee said:

No, that's what happens if you count - and we've already established that you've made multiple unfathomable omissions of extremely high profile, well known events. So what credence should anyone give your count?

And you're still silent on the causes of right wing political violence. Do you not condemn it? Do you not care about it? What should we read into your silence?

I'm literally just trying to count it, today. I omitted it by accident and then added it.  If I find any other ones I'll also add them.  I posted the stats above.  More targeted incidents on the left, that result in fewer casualties over all. 

The El Paso shooting and Charlotteville skew it worse, in number of injuries/deaths, for right leaning incidents.  The raw number of incidents is higher for the left.

20 minutes ago, jakee said:

You still haven't even said that Senator Lee's comments on the Hortman shootings were wrong. Are you too blinded by bias to even be able to do that?

Don't really care, just trying to get all the data in one place.  I have it in a dataframe if you want it!

 

19 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Well yes it is because for MAGA, Trump, Christian nationalists the silence over the largest killer of American children is absolute. For third straight year, firearms killed more children and teens, ages 1 to 17, than any other cause including car crashes and cancer

The hypocrisy of conservatives is absolute.

I commented to discuss political violence.  A subset of those count (like someone going in and killing kids because trans rights or racism). 

I'm interested in:

What's the current rate of violence between political groups?  Is it escalating?

Are we headed for civil war?

Should I move my kids into a bunker?

Is the Kirk assassination enough to really escalate things?

Aren't there firearm threads already to discuss the above generally if you want to?

Edited Thursday at 04:02 PM by base698

[jakee 1,625]

19 minutes ago, dogyks said:

I hate to break it to you, but if someone adheres to an ideology that stipulates my immediate death, I take it at face value and seek to avoid them at all costs.

They may try to reassure me that they don't follow those particular dicta, but you'll forgive me if I err on the side of caution.

Not really sure how you've managed to miss it but the ideology in question according to Base698 is 'the left'. Like... all of it.

If you're saying you feel the same that's not caution, it's extreme paranoia.

Edited Thursday at 04:17 PM by jakee