JerryBaumchen 1,489 #51 September 11 4 hours ago, kallend said: Like the 877 kids shot dead so far this year in the USA. Not a lot of outrage from the right about them. Yet an outspoken fascist gets shot and you'd think the sky fell. Hi John, I had never heard of him until this. Last nite, on NBC News, they spent over 15 minutes of a 30 minute broadcast on this shooting. We're doomed. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 916 #52 September 12 On 9/10/2025 at 4:52 PM, jaybird18c said: The radical left, very well represented here in this forum, wants to kill free speech/expression in America at all cost and leave you defenseless. Pure evil. Sooooo....how's the radical white feeling today? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 3,022 #53 September 12 Just now, normiss said: Sooooo....how's the radical white feeling today? And how long till we start hearing the Horst Wessel song from their ranks? Raise the flag! The ranks tightly closed! The SA marches with calm, steady step. Comrades shot by the Red Front and reactionaries March in spirit within our ranks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,170 #54 September 12 On 9/10/2025 at 1:52 PM, jaybird18c said: The radical left, very well represented here in this forum, wants to kill free speech/expression in America at all cost and leave you defenseless. Given that the shooter turned out to be a right leaning gay-hater - how does it feel to be part of the radical right trying to literally kill free speech in America? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 3,022 #55 September 12 Just now, billvon said: Given that the shooter turned out to be a right leaning gay-hater - how does it feel to be part of the radical right trying to literally kill free speech in America? Cue Nina Simone? Birds flying high, you know how I feel Sun in the sky, you know how I feel Breeze driftin' on by, you know how I feel It's a new dawn It's a new day It's a new life for me, yeah It's a new dawn It's a new day It's a new life for me, ooh And I'm feeling good Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,645 #56 September 12 1 hour ago, billvon said: Given that the shooter turned out to be a right leaning gay-hater - how does it feel to be part of the radical right trying to literally kill free speech in America? Where is this information from? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,170 #57 September 12 1 minute ago, jakee said: Where is this information from? One of the rounds recovered from his weapon had the inscription "If you read this, you are GAY Lmao." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,645 #58 September 12 42 minutes ago, billvon said: One of the rounds recovered from his weapon had the inscription "If you read this, you are GAY Lmao." Ah, you're parodying his rush to judgement. I thought I'd missed something. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,260 #59 September 12 1 hour ago, jakee said: Where is this information from? "One of those cartridges contained the words “Bella ciao,” Mr. Cox said on Friday. That is an apparent reference to an Italian antifascist song. Mr. Cox said that an engraving on an unfired cartridge read, “Hey, fascist! Catch!” Another message said, “If you read this, you are gay LMAO,” an abbreviation for “laughing my ass off.” The messages cited by officials also include apparent references to online culture and gaming. “Up arrow, right arrow, and three down arrow symbols,” as described by Mr. Cox, appears to refer to a sequence of moves on a controller that release a bomb in the video game Helldivers 2. Another engraving, “Notices bulges OWO what’s this?” is a phrase used for trolling in online role-playing communities." Happy to help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,260 #60 September 12 (edited) 2 hours ago, billvon said: Given that the shooter turned out to be a right leaning gay-hater - how does it feel to be part of the radical right trying to literally kill free speech in America? Either that or unaffiliated: "He was listed in Utah voting records as unaffiliated with a political party. The records noted that he was considered “inactive,” suggesting that he did not vote in the November presidential election, the first since he turned 18." I think he may have been trolling with the anti-gay message given "Another engraving, “Notices bulges OWO what’s this?” is a phrase used for trolling in online role-playing communities." If he comes out as right wing poor Mr Trumpie might have a flip out even more. Edited September 12 by Phil1111 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 916 #61 September 12 3 hours ago, Phil1111 said: "One of those cartridges contained the words “Bella ciao,” Mr. Cox said on Friday. That is an apparent reference to an Italian antifascist song. Mr. Cox said that an engraving on an unfired cartridge read, “Hey, fascist! Catch!” Another message said, “If you read this, you are gay LMAO,” an abbreviation for “laughing my ass off.” The messages cited by officials also include apparent references to online culture and gaming. “Up arrow, right arrow, and three down arrow symbols,” as described by Mr. Cox, appears to refer to a sequence of moves on a controller that release a bomb in the video game Helldivers 2. Another engraving, “Notices bulges OWO what’s this?” is a phrase used for trolling in online role-playing communities." Happy to help. Starting to sound like quite an engraver from how much was written on just a few shells. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,260 #62 September 12 1 minute ago, normiss said: Starting to sound like quite an engraver from how much was written on just a few shells. Well they are 30-06 so there is a bit of room unlike 5.56. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 916 #63 September 12 Just now, Phil1111 said: Well they are 30-06 so there is a bit of room unlike 5.56. Made me wonder how different the public response might have been had the twitter video shown him hitting his aim. man that could have been rough Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 682 #64 September 13 3 hours ago, normiss said: Made me wonder how different the public response might have been had the twitter video shown him hitting his aim. man that could have been rough I hate the glorification of violence on social media. I remember back during the gulf war when there was the outrage over the beheading videos and yet we had the same people posting videos of people being killed by the allied forces. I have no desire to watch videos of anyone being killed, whether it’s a right wing extremist or a Russian soldier being hunted by a drone. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 3,022 #65 September 13 38 minutes ago, nigel99 said: I hate the glorification of violence on social media. I remember back during the gulf war when there was the outrage over the beheading videos and yet we had the same people posting videos of people being killed by the allied forces. I have no desire to watch videos of anyone being killed, whether it’s a right wing extremist or a Russian soldier being hunted by a drone. Nope. We are far from civilized enough and not anywhere near the percentage of us are reality aware to not have our evil natures put out for examination. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,216 #66 September 13 5 hours ago, nigel99 said: I hate the glorification of violence on social media. I remember back during the gulf war when there was the outrage over the beheading videos and yet we had the same people posting videos of people being killed by the allied forces. I have no desire to watch videos of anyone being killed, whether it’s a right wing extremist or a Russian soldier being hunted by a drone. Kirk advocated for public, televised executions, which he said “children should be required to watch,” that "at a certain age, it's an initiation" and referred to the practice as "holy." Nice guy. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,645 #67 September 13 31 minutes ago, kallend said: Kirk advocated for public, televised executions, which he said “children should be required to watch,” that "at a certain age, it's an initiation" and referred to the practice as "holy." It should be some comfort to know that in his last moments he fulfilled his dream. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,260 #68 September 13 (edited) 5 hours ago, kallend said: Kirk advocated for public, televised executions, which he said “children should be required to watch,” that "at a certain age, it's an initiation" and referred to the practice as "holy." Nice guy. The very idea that he, Turning Point USA and the vile "christian" teachings his wife in her church spread. Will be lionized in MAGA Christian fascist nationalism is sick. "Black women do not have brain processing power to be taken seriously. You have to go steal a white person's slot." is but one of his direct quotes from his "debates". A podcast where he directly throws Michelle Obama in that group. Kirk played a dance between different audiences depending on how much vileness is needed to grow the Turning point $100 million valuation upwards. To net his business the most cash, Erika Kirk's church the most cash. Social media is not a "cancer". Business like Turning Point USA, FOX news, that profit off vile hate are the cancer. Why the fuck is CNN, NBC, ABC, etc. not replaying podcast videos like the one quoted above to show who Kirk really was? Start the debate with facts not whitewashing b.s. Edited September 13 by Phil1111 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,645 #69 September 13 1 hour ago, Phil1111 said: "Black women do not have brain processing power to be taken seriously. You have to go steal a white person's slot." is but one of his direct quotes from his "debates". A podcast where he directly throws Michelle Obama in that group. Kirk played a dance between different audiences depending on how much vileness is needed to grow the Turning point $100 million valuation upwards. To net his business the most cash, Erika Kirk's church the most cash. Very similar to this: In a 2015 speech at the Liberty Forum of Silicon Valley, Kirk said he had applied for nomination to the United States Military Academy in West Point, New York, and was not accepted.[8] He said that "the slot he considered his went to 'a far less-qualified candidate of a different gender and a different persuasion'" whose test scores he claimed he knew.[3] He told The New Yorker in 2017 that he was being sarcastic when he said it.[3] He told the Chicago Tribunein 2018 that "he was just repeating something he'd been told",[2][89] while at a New Hampshire Turning Point event featuring Rand Paul in October 2019 he claimed he never said it.[89] A racist, a liar and an intellectual coward - and he’s been fully adopted by the main stream Republican party. And of course he spread insane 2020 election lies and played a big part in organising the stop the steal rally - so like everyone else involved he was also a traitor. But that’s just par for the course for a movement that still idolises the Confederacy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,489 #70 September 13 3 hours ago, Phil1111 said: The very idea that he, Turning Point USA and the vile "christian" teachings his wife in her church spread. Will be lionized in MAGA Christian fascist nationalism is sick. "Black women do not have brain processing power to be taken seriously. You have to go steal a white person's slot." is but one of his direct quotes from his "debates". A podcast where he directly throws Michelle Obama in that group. Kirk played a dance between different audiences depending on how much vileness is needed to grow the Turning point $100 million valuation upwards. To net his business the most cash, Erika Kirk's church the most cash. Social media is not a "cancer". Business like Turning Point USA, FOX news, that profit off vile hate are the cancer. Why the fuck is CNN, NBC, ABC, etc. not replaying podcast videos like the one quoted above to show who Kirk really was? Start the debate with facts not whitewashing b.s. Hi Phil, ^^^^^^ This. And, it is because of the enormous money vile hate bring in. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,641 #71 September 13 17 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Phil, ^^^^^^ This. And, it is because of the enormous money vile hate bring in. Jerry Baumchen If it bleeds (or might make someone else bleed), it leads. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,489 #72 September 13 Hi folks, IMO more sanity: Pull yourself together, read a book, get some exercise, have a whiskey or walk the dog or make some pasta or go fishing or just do anything other than let this algo pickle your brain and ruin your soul,” Schatz on Kirk suspect's politics: 'What f---ing difference does it make' Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,260 #73 September 13 1 hour ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Phil, ^^^^^^ This. And, it is because of the enormous money vile hate bring in. Jerry Baumchen Kirks was a dropout and had an initial salary of $27,000 a year as president of Turning Point USA. Today TP USA is worth $100 million and the Kirk family $12 million. Like FOX news spreading vile hate is a money maker. No word yet if TP USA is going to introduce a crypto coin in Kirk's memory. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogyks 30 #74 September 13 It appears that he wasn't gay, but his boyfriend is: https://share.newsbreak.com/ezekl79n A guy I knew was married but gay. When asked about that, he responded that nobody wants to be a pariah. He got married to prove that he was 'normal,' but later realized that 'screw it, I'm gay.' His wife's response was "yeah, I know," but they stayed together. I suspect that a lot of the 'trans' fad is a variation on that, where being a 'woman' is more acceptable than being a gay man. Since I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body, I'm okay with any of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 3,022 #75 September 13 Just now, dogyks said: It appears that he wasn't gay, but his boyfriend is: https://share.newsbreak.com/ezekl79n A guy I knew was married but gay. When asked about that, he responded that nobody wants to be a pariah. He got married to prove that he was 'normal,' but later realized that 'screw it, I'm gay.' His wife's response was "yeah, I know," but they stayed together. I suspect that a lot of the 'trans' fad is a variation on that, where being a 'woman' is more acceptable than being a gay man. Since I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body, I'm okay with any of it. Where I am in the world now I have not yet been in a decent eatery where there wasn't an openly trans waiter, it's just accepted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites