Superman is "woke"

[billvon 3,131]

I saw the Superman movie with the kids the other day.  I had heard going into it that the right wing was against it because it was "Superwoke" - so I assumed that Jimmy Olson was portrayed as gay or something.

When I saw it I first thought "oh OK, Perry White is black, so that's what they must be on about."  It would be a strange thing to be offended by, because White has been black in other portayals of Superman (and was originally intended to be black) - but logic has never been at the reigns of right wing cancel culture.

Then halfway through the movie I realized what they were REALLY upset about - the portrayal of the secret private prison in another country (another universe actually) where people who dare complain about Lex Luthor are "disappeared," imprisoned and tortured.

When I got home I looked up what they were offended by.  And the first hit I got was that it was anti-Israel.  In the movie, the (mostly white) country of Boravia, heavily armed by the USA, intends to invade and destroy Jarhanpur, a poor neighboring country of brown people, and who are most often portrayed in the movie as largely children.  They beg Superman to come and save them from the heavily armed and corrupt Boravians, and it is made clear if they are not saved then a lot of kids will die.

But then I did a little more research, and the #1 thing Trumpies were offended by was that Superman was an illegal immigrant whose family was hiding him from authorities.  Which he has been since the very first comic in 1938.  That origin story makes perfect sense; his creators were the sons of immigrants and immigrants themselves, aghast over what was happening to their fellow Jews in Germany.  And at that point in history the USA was refusing to step in.  The creation of an unstoppable hero outside the government (indeed, whose identity was unknown to the government) that would right all the wrongs being done to the weak and oppressed was a no brainer for Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster.

So the #1 thing they were offended by was that he was an immigrant, reinforced by James Gunn saying that this movie was about an immigrant exhibiting "basic human kindness."  Which of course the story has been for almost 100 years now.

The #2 thing was the Israel connection, and the #3 thing was the secret prison.

It is very odd that the big thing that offends everyone is the basic story of Superman, which hasn't changed since 1938.  What did they THINK it would be about?

[JoeWeber 2,967]

Just now, billvon said:

I saw the Superman movie with the kids the other day.  I had heard going into it that the right wing was against it because it was "Superwoke" - so I assumed that Jimmy Olson was portrayed as gay or something.

When I saw it I first thought "oh OK, Perry White is black, so that's what they must be on about."  It would be a strange thing to be offended by, because White has been black in other portayals of Superman (and was originally intended to be black) - but logic has never been at the reigns of right wing cancel culture.

Then halfway through the movie I realized what they were REALLY upset about - the portrayal of the secret private prison in another country (another universe actually) where people who dare complain about Lex Luthor are "disappeared," imprisoned and tortured.

When I got home I looked up what they were offended by.  And the first hit I got was that it was anti-Israel.  In the movie, the (mostly white) country of Boravia, heavily armed by the USA, intends to invade and destroy Jarhanpur, a poor neighboring country of brown people, and who are most often portrayed in the movie as largely children.  They beg Superman to come and save them from the heavily armed and corrupt Boravians, and it is made clear if they are not saved then a lot of kids will die.

But then I did a little more research, and the #1 thing Trumpies were offended by was that Superman was an illegal immigrant whose family was hiding him from authorities.  Which he has been since the very first comic in 1938.  That origin story makes perfect sense; his creators were the sons of immigrants and immigrants themselves, aghast over what was happening to their fellow Jews in Germany.  And at that point in history the USA was refusing to step in.  The creation of an unstoppable hero outside the government (indeed, whose identity was unknown to the government) that would right all the wrongs being done to the weak and oppressed was a no brainer for Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster.

So the #1 thing they were offended by was that he was an immigrant, reinforced by James Gunn saying that this movie was about an immigrant exhibiting "basic human kindness."  Which of course the story has been for almost 100 years now.

The #2 thing was the Israel connection, and the #3 thing was the secret prison.

It is very odd that the big thing that offends everyone is the basic story of Superman, which hasn't changed since 1938.  What did they THINK it would be about?

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[normiss 903]

2 hours ago, billvon said:

I saw the Superman movie with the kids the other day.  I had heard going into it that the right wing was against it because it was "Superwoke" - so I assumed that Jimmy Olson was portrayed as gay or something.

When I saw it I first thought "oh OK, Perry White is black, so that's what they must be on about."  It would be a strange thing to be offended by, because White has been black in other portayals of Superman (and was originally intended to be black) - but logic has never been at the reigns of right wing cancel culture.

Then halfway through the movie I realized what they were REALLY upset about - the portrayal of the secret private prison in another country (another universe actually) where people who dare complain about Lex Luthor are "disappeared," imprisoned and tortured.

When I got home I looked up what they were offended by.  And the first hit I got was that it was anti-Israel.  In the movie, the (mostly white) country of Boravia, heavily armed by the USA, intends to invade and destroy Jarhanpur, a poor neighboring country of brown people, and who are most often portrayed in the movie as largely children.  They beg Superman to come and save them from the heavily armed and corrupt Boravians, and it is made clear if they are not saved then a lot of kids will die.

But then I did a little more research, and the #1 thing Trumpies were offended by was that Superman was an illegal immigrant whose family was hiding him from authorities.  Which he has been since the very first comic in 1938.  That origin story makes perfect sense; his creators were the sons of immigrants and immigrants themselves, aghast over what was happening to their fellow Jews in Germany.  And at that point in history the USA was refusing to step in.  The creation of an unstoppable hero outside the government (indeed, whose identity was unknown to the government) that would right all the wrongs being done to the weak and oppressed was a no brainer for Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster.

So the #1 thing they were offended by was that he was an immigrant, reinforced by James Gunn saying that this movie was about an immigrant exhibiting "basic human kindness."  Which of course the story has been for almost 100 years now.

The #2 thing was the Israel connection, and the #3 thing was the secret prison.

It is very odd that the big thing that offends everyone is the basic story of Superman, which hasn't changed since 1938.  What did they THINK it would be about?

You expect them to actually think about it?

It's all visual performance to them.

[Phil1111 1,192]

Superman....God...Trump.....its all the same isn't it. The self-mythologizing is a sad parody of Trump's personal idols.

[GeorgiaDon 385]

You'll never see Trump on a horse.  He's too scared.  Also too heavy.  Not to mention no self-respecting horse would be seen with a 400 pound lump of lard jiggling on its back.

[JerryBaumchen 1,471]

15 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

Superman....God...Trump.....its all the same isn't it. The self-mythologizing is a sad parody of Trump's personal idols.

Hi Phil,

Trump idolizes power; nothing else to say.

Jerry Baumchen

[billvon 3,131]

On 7/21/2025 at 7:30 AM, GeorgiaDon said:

You'll never see Trump on a horse.  He's too scared.  Also too heavy.  Not to mention no self-respecting horse would be seen with a 400 pound lump of lard jiggling on its back.

But he claims that he's only 215!  Surely he wouldn't lie.