Epstein Files

[nigel99 613]

Interesting turn of events in the Epstein files. Jon Stewart did a piece on how it’s biting Trump in the arse as he rose to power by feeding conspiracy theories and is struggling to put this back in a box. He also said Trump calling them “phoney” is a huge tell. 

Now Trump has gone on a rampage saying the Epstein files are fake and created by Hillary Clinton and Obama. 

As a side note, I do believe the extremely rich and powerful do get to the point where they justify extreme cruelty and illegal behaviour. One only has to look at the data on how many CEO’s are psychopaths etc. I’m not saying it’s all of them, and it’s definitely not along party lines. Look at Diddy and also the young women who are used as entertainment at sex parties in the Middle East (most recent news I saw a young woman was dumped with a broken spine and other bones). 

[billvon 3,107]

20 hours ago, nigel99 said:

Interesting turn of events in the Epstein files.

Indeed.  To see Trump say "ignore the Epstein files" is a rather remarkable shift, brought about no doubt by his inclusion in them.

Ironically, since he cannot read more than a few sentences, he has almost certainly not read the files himself.   He asked Bondi to confiscate and release them, hoping to embarrass some democrats.  Bondi then read them and had an "oh shit" moment, and so she stopped talking about it.  It's a good bet other people read them as well - specifically Miller and Musk.  Musk, of course, has already posted that Trump is on the list.

But yes, his sudden claim that we should all ignore them indicates that someone (Bondi?  Miller?) finally got to him and explained how bad it would be to release them.

[billvon 3,107]

Up next - "Epstein?  Who's that?"

[JoeWeber 2,932]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

Up next - "Epstein?  Who's that?"

Trump posted this Saturday on Truth Social:

"They created the Epstein Files, just like they created the FAKE Hillary Clinton/Christopher Steele Dossier that they used on me, and now my so-called 'friends' are playing right into their hands," Trump's post reads in part. "Why didn’t these Radical Left Lunatics release the Epstein Files? If there was ANYTHING in there that could have hurt the MAGA Movement, why didn’t they use it?"

Oh, he's in the file alright and it's just another Democrat plot.

[billvon 3,107]

Ghislaine Maxwell is now petitioning for her own release, basing her petition on the fact that Trump claimed there was no client list and therefore no basis for her imprisonment.  

And it might work - especially if Trump has to keep that list undercover at all costs.

[JoeWeber 2,932]

On 7/13/2025 at 2:13 PM, billvon said:

Indeed.  To see Trump say "ignore the Epstein files" is a rather remarkable shift, brought about no doubt by his inclusion in them.

Ironically, since he cannot read more than a few sentences, he has almost certainly not read the files himself.   He asked Bondi to confiscate and release them, hoping to embarrass some democrats.  Bondi then read them and had an "oh shit" moment, and so she stopped talking about it.  It's a good bet other people read them as well - specifically Miller and Musk.  Musk, of course, has already posted that Trump is on the list.

But yes, his sudden claim that we should all ignore them indicates that someone (Bondi?  Miller?) finally got to him and explained how bad it would be to release them.

"I can say that Pam Bondi, I really think that she's done very good," he protested. "She says, I gave you all the credible information and if she finds any more credible information, she'll give that to you. What more can she do than that?" -Trump

Is this credible information? Probably not. We definitely can't have reputations ruined by the careless dissemination of information not deemed credible by the Department of Credibility, that's for sure.

[normiss 891]

40 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

"I can say that Pam Bondi, I really think that she's done very good," he protested. "She says, I gave you all the credible information and if she finds any more credible information, she'll give that to you. What more can she do than that?" -Trump

Is this credible information? Probably not. We definitely can't have reputations ruined by the careless dissemination of information not deemed credible by the Department of Credibility, that's for sure.

It's not like there's any evidence of Trump's sex crimes....ever with Google:

Trump is a rapist search results

[billvon 3,107]

He's finally tackling the root of the problem:

[billvon 3,107]

So the DOJ just fired the prosecutor who put Epstein and Maxwell behind bars.

Trump's revenge continues against people who hurt his friends.

[JoeWeber 2,932]

Just now, billvon said:

So the DOJ just fired the prosecutor who put Epstein and Maxwell behind bars.

Trump's revenge continues against people who hurt his friends.

I reckon the daughter of James Comey was toast from the beginning.

[Phil1111 1,170]

It appears as though the leaks have started. Naturally Trump is deep in the perversion. 

Trump sent Epstein a birthday letter in 2003  "it contains several lines of typewritten text framed by the outline of a naked woman," the (Wall Street) Journal reports. "A pair of small arcs denotes the woman’s breasts, and the future president’s signature is a squiggly 'Donald' below her waist, mimicking pubic hair."

The letter ends with the signoff: “Happy Birthday — and may every day be another wonderful secret.”

"In 2002, a year before the birthday card, Trump told New York magazine, "I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."

Edited Friday at 01:58 AM by Phil1111

[JoeWeber 2,932]

12 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

It appears as though the leaks have started. Naturally Trump is deep in the perversion. 

Trump sent Epstein a birthday letter in 2003  "it contains several lines of typewritten text framed by the outline of a naked woman," the (Wall Street) Journal reports. "A pair of small arcs denotes the woman’s breasts, and the future president’s signature is a squiggly 'Donald' below her waist, mimicking pubic hair."

The letter ends with the signoff: “Happy Birthday — and may every day be another wonderful secret.”

"In 2002, a year before the birthday card, Trump told New York magazine, "I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."

Of course, as always, he's lying. 

In a flurry of frantic Truth Social posts on Thursday night, Trump doubled down on his lack of artistic skills. “These are not my words, not the way I talk. Also, I don’t draw pictures.”

The internet, though, always keeps the receipts—and there were some hefty clues that Trump may not be telling the truth.

In his 2008 book, Trump Never Give Up: How I Turned My Biggest Challenges into Success, Trump wrote about his “new talent,” adding he usually draws for charity and that “it takes me a few minutes to draw something, in my case, it’s usually a building or a cityscape of skyscrapers.”

He continued: “Art may not be my strong point, but the end result is help for people who need it.”

[Phil1111 1,170]

Trump suing Rupert Murdoch for $10 billion is such lovely news. Its a win win all around as presumably the love has gone out of that relationship.

Remember when Rupert Murdoch would catch and kill stories about Trump for free.

As far as the files are concerned Trump now says he "leave it up to the courts".  When "illegal immigrants" are concerned Trump ignores court orders.

Edited yesterday at 12:41 AM by Phil1111

[nigel99 613]

5 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Of course, as always, he's lying. 

In a flurry of frantic Truth Social posts on Thursday night, Trump doubled down on his lack of artistic skills. “These are not my words, not the way I talk. Also, I don’t draw pictures.”

The internet, though, always keeps the receipts—and there were some hefty clues that Trump may not be telling the truth.

In his 2008 book, Trump Never Give Up: How I Turned My Biggest Challenges into Success, Trump wrote about his “new talent,” adding he usually draws for charity and that “it takes me a few minutes to draw something, in my case, it’s usually a building or a cityscape of skyscrapers.”

He continued: “Art may not be my strong point, but the end result is help for people who need it.”

He’s a better artist than human being.

[JerryBaumchen 1,463]

2 hours ago, nigel99 said:

He’s a better artist than human being.

Hi Nigel,

There is little about him that is human.  Hatred flows in his veins.

Jerry Baumchen

[JoeWeber 2,932]

Just now, nigel99 said:

He’s a better artist than human being.

Just a regular Dad and his daughter.

[JerryBaumchen 1,463]

On 7/18/2025 at 7:51 PM, JoeWeber said:

Just a regular Dad and his daughter.

Hi Joe,

Once again, Trump proves that he is bat-shit crazy:  

Right-winger influencer and podcast host Nick Fuentes has famously dined with Donald Trump.

 However, the two are buddies no more because Fuentes shredded Trump on his most recent podcast.

 “And now he says if you are not on board with the Epstein coverup I don’t want your support,” Fuentes said. “You’re a weakling. (Expletive) you. (Expletive) you. You suck. You are fat. You are a joke. You are stupid. You are not funny. You are not as smart as you think you are.

 And honestly, and if you watch my show, you know I’ve been very critical,” he continued. “I’ve never been this far. This just goes to show this entire thing has been a scam. When we look back on the history of populism in America, we are going to look back on the MAGA movement as the biggest scam in American history. The Liberals were right. The MAGAs were had. They were.

 “When we look back in history, we will see Trump as a scam artist.”

 In another clip, Fuentes again went off on Trump saying he doesn’t want the support of people questioning the Epstein files.

 “I don’t want their support anymore … well, fine, you don’t get anymore,” he said. “Nobody should vote for Trump. Nobody should vote for Republicans. And what needs to happen next by the way, the Republicans must be hanged in the midterms. That’s what must come of this. Trump must (expletive) pay for this statement. To say, ‘I don’t want your support anymore.’ Every single Trump supporter, every single Republican needs to say, OK, bet. You don’t want our support, forget about the midterms. Forget it. The 2026 midterms, it just needs to be a Democrat avalanche at this point. And that’s not because I’m a Democrat. I’m not. I don’t like the Democrats. I hate the Republicans more because the Republicans are traitors. Because I have voted for Republicans. I have supported Republicans and they (expletive) on our face.”

Social media was stunned to see the blistering takedown from Fuentes.

“Wow, Trump even lost to Nazi’s,” one person wrote on X.

 “Why do I have to be aggreging with this horrible person on a Thursday morning,” another wrote.

 “MAGA is imploding over the Epstein scandal,” the Republicans against Trump account on X wrote while sharing video of Fuentes.

 This all comes a day after Trump again lashed out at supporters for questioning his administration’s handling of the Epstein files.

 “The Radical Left Democrats have hit pay dirt, again!” Trump wrote on Truth Social. “Just like with the FAKE and fully discredited Steele Dossier, the lying 51 ‘intelligence’ Agents, the Laptop from Hell, which the Dems swore had come from Russia (No, it came from Hunter Biden’s bathroom!), and even the Russia, Russia, Russia, scam itself, a totally fake and made up story used in order to hide Crooked Hillar Clinton’s big loss in the 2016 Presidential Election, these scams and Hoaxes are all the Democrats are good at — It’s all they have — They are no good at governing, no good at policy, and no good at picking winning candidates.

 “Also, unlike Republicans, they stick together like glue,” he continued. “Their new SCAM is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax, and my PAST supporters have bought into this ‘bullshit,’ hook, line, and sinker. They haven’t learned their lesson, and probably never will, even after being conned by the Lunatic Left for 8 long years.”

 Trump was not through.

 “I have had more success in 6 months than perhaps any President in our Country’s history, and all these people want to talk about, with strong prodding by the Fake News and the success starved Dems, is the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax,” he wrote. “Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, don’t even think about talking about our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don’t want their support anymore! Thank you for your attention to this matter. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”

 It was Trump’s administration and Attorney General Pam Bondi who made a spectacle of the release of part of the files in February, inviting MAGA social media influencers into the White House and handing them binders before posing for a photo opp. Those binders were labeled “The Epstein Files: Phase I,” and for the most part they were heavily redacted and contained information that had already been reported.

President Trump’s name was in those documents, however, as he appeared seven times in the flight logs.

 Also, previously reported to be on the Epstein flight logs, per Newsweek, were the likes of former president Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew of England, Naomi Campbell, David Copperfield, Leonardo DiCaprio, Cameron Diaz, former vice president Al Gore, Stephen Hawking and Bruce Willis.

 Traveling on Epstein’s plane does not mean that anyone committed a crime, though.

Also in February, Bondi was asked about the Epstein client list while on Fox, and she said, “It’s sitting on my desk right now to review. That’s been a directive form President Trump. I’m reviewing that.”

 But Bondi reversed course last week, with Trump by her side, and said there would be no client list release. And, after MAGA, which had been promised for months that heads would roll when the files were released, began to call for her to be fired, Trump first lashed out over the weekend.

“What’s going on with my ‘boys’ and, in some cases, ‘gals?’” Trump wrote on Truth Social. “They’re all going after Attorney General Pam Bondi, who is doing a FANTASTIC JOB! We’re on one Team, MAGA, and I don’t like what’s happening. We have a PERFECT Administration, THE TALK OF THE WORLD, and ‘selfish people’ are trying to hurt it, all over a guy who never dies, Jeffrey Epstein.

 “For years, it’s Epstein, over and over again,” he continued. “Why are we giving publicity to files written by Obama, Crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan, and the Losers and Criminals of the Biden Administration, who conned the World with the Russia, Russia, Russia Hoax, 51 ‘Intelligence’ Agents, ‘THE LAPTOP FROM HELL,’ and More? They created the Epstein Files, just like they created the FAKE Hillary Clinton/Christopher Steele Dossier that they used on me, and now my so-called ‘friends’ are playing right into their hands.

 “Why didn’t these Radical Left Lunatics release the Epstein Files?” he continued. “If there was ANYTHING in there that could have hurt the MAGA Movement, why didn’t they use it? They haven’t even given up on the John F. Kennedy or Martin Luther King Jr. Files. No matter how much success we have had, securing the Border, deporting Criminals, fixing the Economy, Energy Dominance, a Safer World where Iran will not have Nuclear Weapons, it’s never enough for some people. WE are about to achieve more in 6 months than any other Administration has achieved in over 100 years, and we have so much more to do.

 “We are saving our Country and, MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, which will continue to be our complete PRIORITY,” he continued. “The Left is imploding! Kash Patel, and the FBI, must be focused on investigating Voter Fraud, Political Corruption, ActBlue, The Rigged and Stolen Election of 2020, and arresting Thugs and Criminals, instead of spending month after month looking at nothing but the same old, RADICAL LEFT inspired Documents on Jeffrey Epstein. LET PAM BONDI DO HERE JOB — SHE’S GREAT. The 2020 Election was Rigged and Stolen, and they tried to the same thing in 2024. That’s what she is looking into as AG, and much more.

 “One year ago our Country was DEAD, now it’s the ‘HOTTEST’ Country anywhere in the World. Let’s keep it that way, and not waste Time and Energy on Jeffrey Epstein, somebody that nobody cares about. Thank you for your attention to this matter!”

It sure looks to me like he is running scared.

Jerry Baumchen

Donald Trump ripped by Nick Fuentes: ‘(Expletive) you. You suck. You’re fat. You’re a joke’ - oregonlive.com

 

Edited 18 hours ago by JerryBaumchen

[billvon 3,107]

21 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

He is running scared.

 

Wow.  When a neo-Nazi and white supremacist thinks you are too amoral to be president. . . . 

[nigel99 613]

4 hours ago, billvon said:

Wow.  When a neo-Nazi and white supremacist thinks you are too amoral to be president. . . . 

The groundwork is being laid to oust Trump. The reporting on his health concerns is ramping up and he’s losing support of the hard core racists. 

My money has been on JD taking over, I had anticipated it being after midterms, but I’m prepared to say it will be by the years end now. Miller and Co need the Nazi support to continue their agenda.

[BIGUN 1,483]

4 hours ago, nigel99 said:

The groundwork is being laid to oust Trump. The reporting on his health concerns is ramping up and he’s losing support of the hard core racists.

Agreed.

4 hours ago, nigel99 said:

My money has been on JD taking over,

The 25th amendment would make that a pretty safe bet.

[Phil1111 1,170]

6 hours ago, nigel99 said:

The groundwork is being laid to oust Trump. The reporting on his health concerns is ramping up and he’s losing support of the hard core racists. 

My money has been on JD taking over, I had anticipated it being after midterms, but I’m prepared to say it will be by the years end now. Miller and Co need the Nazi support to continue their agenda.

Completely disagree. As soon as JD shows any signs of taking over he will be flushed down the toilet like the US constitution.

Never underestimate the willingness of the MAGA base to ingest new conspiracies. Seize upon new threats to White, christian America. Like a matador Trump will wave the muleta/ American flag and the MAGA bull will pivot and attack.

[BIGUN 1,483]

1 hour ago, Phil1111 said:

Completely disagree. As soon as JD shows any signs of taking over he will be flushed down the toilet like the US constitution.

Morning, Phil.

Nigel was referring to a potential health issue, not a coup d'é·tat. 

 

[JerryBaumchen 1,463]

3 hours ago, BIGUN said:

Morning, Phil.

Nigel was referring to a potential health issue, not a coup d'é·tat. 

 

Hi Keith,

After that sham doctor, in 2016, said that Trump was in the best health of anyone he had evaluated, no one should believe anything ANY doctor says about Trump; unless he is issuing a death certificate.

Jerry Baumchen

[Phil1111 1,170]

1 hour ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Keith,

After that sham doctor, in 2016, said that Trump was in the best health of anyone he had evaluated, no one should believe anything ANY doctor says about Trump; unless he is issuing a death certificate.

Jerry Baumchen

Oh hell for his base he'll become another Elvis immortal. Transcending death, becoming a synonym for scams, lying, fraud, rackets, pussy grabbing,Putin apologist,   etc.

[BIGUN 1,483]

2 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

no one should believe anything ANY doctor says about Trump; unless he is issuing a death certificate.

Then, why should you believe that?