Epstein Files

[nigel99 612]

Interesting turn of events in the Epstein files. Jon Stewart did a piece on how it’s biting Trump in the arse as he rose to power by feeding conspiracy theories and is struggling to put this back in a box. He also said Trump calling them “phoney” is a huge tell. 

Now Trump has gone on a rampage saying the Epstein files are fake and created by Hillary Clinton and Obama. 

As a side note, I do believe the extremely rich and powerful do get to the point where they justify extreme cruelty and illegal behaviour. One only has to look at the data on how many CEO’s are psychopaths etc. I’m not saying it’s all of them, and it’s definitely not along party lines. Look at Diddy and also the young women who are used as entertainment at sex parties in the Middle East (most recent news I saw a young woman was dumped with a broken spine and other bones). 

[billvon 3,107]

20 hours ago, nigel99 said:

Interesting turn of events in the Epstein files.

Indeed.  To see Trump say "ignore the Epstein files" is a rather remarkable shift, brought about no doubt by his inclusion in them.

Ironically, since he cannot read more than a few sentences, he has almost certainly not read the files himself.   He asked Bondi to confiscate and release them, hoping to embarrass some democrats.  Bondi then read them and had an "oh shit" moment, and so she stopped talking about it.  It's a good bet other people read them as well - specifically Miller and Musk.  Musk, of course, has already posted that Trump is on the list.

But yes, his sudden claim that we should all ignore them indicates that someone (Bondi?  Miller?) finally got to him and explained how bad it would be to release them.

[billvon 3,107]

Up next - "Epstein?  Who's that?"

[JoeWeber 2,932]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

Up next - "Epstein?  Who's that?"

Trump posted this Saturday on Truth Social:

"They created the Epstein Files, just like they created the FAKE Hillary Clinton/Christopher Steele Dossier that they used on me, and now my so-called 'friends' are playing right into their hands," Trump's post reads in part. "Why didn’t these Radical Left Lunatics release the Epstein Files? If there was ANYTHING in there that could have hurt the MAGA Movement, why didn’t they use it?"

Oh, he's in the file alright and it's just another Democrat plot.

[billvon 3,107]

Ghislaine Maxwell is now petitioning for her own release, basing her petition on the fact that Trump claimed there was no client list and therefore no basis for her imprisonment.  

And it might work - especially if Trump has to keep that list undercover at all costs.

[JoeWeber 2,932]

On 7/13/2025 at 2:13 PM, billvon said:

Indeed.  To see Trump say "ignore the Epstein files" is a rather remarkable shift, brought about no doubt by his inclusion in them.

Ironically, since he cannot read more than a few sentences, he has almost certainly not read the files himself.   He asked Bondi to confiscate and release them, hoping to embarrass some democrats.  Bondi then read them and had an "oh shit" moment, and so she stopped talking about it.  It's a good bet other people read them as well - specifically Miller and Musk.  Musk, of course, has already posted that Trump is on the list.

But yes, his sudden claim that we should all ignore them indicates that someone (Bondi?  Miller?) finally got to him and explained how bad it would be to release them.

"I can say that Pam Bondi, I really think that she's done very good," he protested. "She says, I gave you all the credible information and if she finds any more credible information, she'll give that to you. What more can she do than that?" -Trump

Is this credible information? Probably not. We definitely can't have reputations ruined by the careless dissemination of information not deemed credible by the Department of Credibility, that's for sure.

[normiss 891]

40 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

"I can say that Pam Bondi, I really think that she's done very good," he protested. "She says, I gave you all the credible information and if she finds any more credible information, she'll give that to you. What more can she do than that?" -Trump

Is this credible information? Probably not. We definitely can't have reputations ruined by the careless dissemination of information not deemed credible by the Department of Credibility, that's for sure.

It's not like there's any evidence of Trump's sex crimes....ever with Google:

Trump is a rapist search results

[billvon 3,107]

He's finally tackling the root of the problem:

[billvon 3,107]

So the DOJ just fired the prosecutor who put Epstein and Maxwell behind bars.

Trump's revenge continues against people who hurt his friends.

[JoeWeber 2,932]

Just now, billvon said:

So the DOJ just fired the prosecutor who put Epstein and Maxwell behind bars.

Trump's revenge continues against people who hurt his friends.

I reckon the daughter of James Comey was toast from the beginning.

[Phil1111 1,168]

It appears as though the leaks have started. Naturally Trump is deep in the perversion. 

Trump sent Epstein a birthday letter in 2003  "it contains several lines of typewritten text framed by the outline of a naked woman," the (Wall Street) Journal reports. "A pair of small arcs denotes the woman’s breasts, and the future president’s signature is a squiggly 'Donald' below her waist, mimicking pubic hair."

The letter ends with the signoff: “Happy Birthday — and may every day be another wonderful secret.”

"In 2002, a year before the birthday card, Trump told New York magazine, "I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."

Edited yesterday at 01:58 AM by Phil1111

[JoeWeber 2,932]

12 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

It appears as though the leaks have started. Naturally Trump is deep in the perversion. 

Trump sent Epstein a birthday letter in 2003  "it contains several lines of typewritten text framed by the outline of a naked woman," the (Wall Street) Journal reports. "A pair of small arcs denotes the woman’s breasts, and the future president’s signature is a squiggly 'Donald' below her waist, mimicking pubic hair."

The letter ends with the signoff: “Happy Birthday — and may every day be another wonderful secret.”

"In 2002, a year before the birthday card, Trump told New York magazine, "I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."

Of course, as always, he's lying. 

In a flurry of frantic Truth Social posts on Thursday night, Trump doubled down on his lack of artistic skills. “These are not my words, not the way I talk. Also, I don’t draw pictures.”

The internet, though, always keeps the receipts—and there were some hefty clues that Trump may not be telling the truth.

In his 2008 book, Trump Never Give Up: How I Turned My Biggest Challenges into Success, Trump wrote about his “new talent,” adding he usually draws for charity and that “it takes me a few minutes to draw something, in my case, it’s usually a building or a cityscape of skyscrapers.”

He continued: “Art may not be my strong point, but the end result is help for people who need it.”

[Phil1111 1,168]

Trump suing Rupert Murdoch for $10 billion is such lovely news. Its a win win all around as presumably the love has gone out of that relationship.

Remember when Rupert Murdoch would catch and kill stories about Trump for free.

As far as the files are concerned Trump now says he "leave it up to the courts".  When "illegal immigrants" are concerned Trump ignores court orders.

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[nigel99 612]

5 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Of course, as always, he's lying. 

In a flurry of frantic Truth Social posts on Thursday night, Trump doubled down on his lack of artistic skills. “These are not my words, not the way I talk. Also, I don’t draw pictures.”

The internet, though, always keeps the receipts—and there were some hefty clues that Trump may not be telling the truth.

In his 2008 book, Trump Never Give Up: How I Turned My Biggest Challenges into Success, Trump wrote about his “new talent,” adding he usually draws for charity and that “it takes me a few minutes to draw something, in my case, it’s usually a building or a cityscape of skyscrapers.”

He continued: “Art may not be my strong point, but the end result is help for people who need it.”

He’s a better artist than human being.