And now

[jaybird18c 24]

On 7/7/2025 at 1:25 AM, jakee said:

The Republican government also falsely claimed there was evidence of a functioning WMD program in Iraq, which led to disaster.

I appreciate that Jakee. I referred to that 10 posts ago with my comment, “I surely would not presume to defend all US interventions, Iraq being an example.” 

[JoeWeber 2,932]

27 minutes ago, jaybird18c said:

I appreciate that Jakee. I referred to that 10 posts ago with my comment, “I surely would not presume to defend all US interventions, Iraq being an example.” 

That’s progress of a kind. Given the seemingly endless parade of malign actors in need of the boot, and the potential for significant downside, would you agree that the decision to attack another nation militarily ought not be made by a single elected official? Especially when there is significant disagreement among the official’s own advisors?

[jaybird18c 24]

16 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

That’s progress of a kind. Given the seemingly endless parade of malign actors in need of the boot, and the potential for significant downside, would you agree that the decision to attack another nation militarily ought not be made by a single elected official? Especially when there is significant disagreement among the official’s own advisors?

I think it’s a necessary power of the President to be able to act on actionable intelligence of imminent threat to protect national interests. That’s his number one job. The War Powers Resolution gives him that authority, however limited. Only Congress can declare war. That’s not what Trump did.

[billvon 3,107]

1 hour ago, jaybird18c said:

I think it’s a necessary power of the President to be able to act on actionable intelligence of imminent threat to protect national interests. 

Absolutely.

This was in no way an imminent threat.

[JoeWeber 2,932]

2 hours ago, jaybird18c said:

I think it’s a necessary power of the President to be able to act on actionable intelligence of imminent threat to protect national interests. That’s his number one job. The War Powers Resolution gives him that authority, however limited. Only Congress can declare war. That’s not what Trump did.

We live in an age where an unstable simpleton can do inestimable damage to the world and ruin the lives of billions of people in an instant, or set the world on a path in that direction. All of the reasons from 200 years ago no longer apply. I think the president needs serious checks before taking action on gut instinct.

[jakee 1,593]

4 hours ago, jaybird18c said:

I appreciate that Jakee. I referred to that 10 posts ago with my comment, “I surely would not presume to defend all US interventions, Iraq being an example.” 

But you would refuse to learn any lessons from them? Anytime WMDs are mentioned in future we MUST intervene?

[kallend 2,146]

5 hours ago, jaybird18c said:

I think it’s a necessary power of the President to be able to act on actionable intelligence of imminent threat to protect national interests. That’s his number one job. The War Powers Resolution gives him that authority, however limited. Only Congress can declare war. That’s not what Trump did.

What actionable intelligence?  He over-ruled his director of national intelligence on June 20 and said she and the inteeligence community was "wrong" based on his feels.

His exact words:  “Then my intelligence community was wrong.”

[Phil1111 1,168]

5 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

We live in an age where an unstable simpleton can do inestimable damage to the world and ruin the lives of billions of people in an instant, or set the world on a path in that direction. All of the reasons from 200 years ago no longer apply. I think the president needs serious checks before taking action on gut instinct.

The perfect definition as to why America is so dangerous.

Not as dangerous as Russia, China, NK and Iran. But next in line. "Actionable intelligence" is an oxymoron when Trump is concerned. He disregards completely intelligence reports from the CIA and FBI. Steve Bannon, Stephen Miller, etc. and lately Laura Loomer are the ones advising Trump's "gut instinct". 

[Phil1111 1,168]

6 hours ago, billvon said:

Absolutely.

This was in no way an imminent threat.

A few months back it was the Houthis that was the big national threat. In the last week they have sunk two more ships yet the "national threat and national interest" has vanished

After losing that war with the Houthis Trump seems to have forgotten that area of the world.

[nigel99 612]

On 7/7/2025 at 3:19 AM, jakee said:

Iran: Weeks away from a functioning warhead since 1995.

Iraq WMD story all over again. Pentagon just learned about search and replace in MS Word. 

[nigel99 612]

2 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

The perfect definition as to why America is so dangerous.

Not as dangerous as Russia, China, NK and Iran. But next in line. "Actionable intelligence" is an oxymoron when Trump is concerned. He disregards completely intelligence reports from the CIA and FBI. Steve Bannon, Stephen Miller, etc. and lately Laura Loomer are the ones advising Trump's "gut instinct". 

Sad to say I think that’s some American bias. I think the US is the single greatest threat to world peace (at the moment). USA, Russia and Israel are all top contenders. Gone from leaders of the free world to leaders of the Theocracies and Lunatics.