Unconditional Surrender demand

[JoeWeber 2,900]

Oh, goodie! Because his silly parade didn't show him to be the tough guy he's not, he is now demanding the evacuation of Tehran, flying a wing of re-fuelers to the middle east, and admitting it was us and our technology that gave Israel the advantage in battle just after denying the same like yesterday. He is insane by any way of measuring insanity.

[gowlerk 2,266]

Just now, JoeWeber said:

Oh, goodie! Because his silly parade didn't show him to be the tough guy he's not, he is now demanding the evacuation of Tehran, flying a wing of re-fuelers to the middle east, and admitting it was us and our technology that gave Israel the advantage in battle just after denying the same like yesterday. He is insane by any way of measuring insanity.

It's going to be hard to resist using all those tools so much has been invested in. Bad news is only a few days away.

[Phil1111 1,156]

Three carrier battle groups and a refuelling A/C wing to the Iranian area. Obviously trump never learnt any lessons from his victory/defeat over the Houthis.

In other news 

"The US bombing campaign of Yemen under Donald Trump led to the deaths of almost as many civilians in two months as in the previous 23 years of US attacks on Islamists and militants in the country.

An analysis of Operation Rough Rider by the monitoring group Airwars has concluded that 224 civilians were killed between March and the end of the campaign in May, compared with 258 between 2002 and 2024."

[JoeWeber 2,900]

Just now, Phil1111 said:

Three carrier battle groups and a refuelling A/C wing to the Iranian area. Obviously trump never learnt any lessons from his victory/defeat over the Houthis.

In other news 

"The US bombing campaign of Yemen under Donald Trump led to the deaths of almost as many civilians in two months as in the previous 23 years of US attacks on Islamists and militants in the country.

An analysis of Operation Rough Rider by the monitoring group Airwars has concluded that 224 civilians were killed between March and the end of the campaign in May, compared with 258 between 2002 and 2024."

Welcome back. Let me get you caught up, he's just doing a deal and then they'll all turn around and go home.

[Phil1111 1,156]

5 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Welcome back. Let me get you caught up, he's just doing a deal and then they'll all turn around and go home.

Thanks, The religious fanatics in Iran may have other ideas. Just like the Houthiis, Putin, Hamas, etc. the sacrifices of the public is secondary to ideology. After chanting "death to Israel, death to America" for forty five years peace or a treaty may be illusionary.

American evangelical Christians are all worked up about destroying Iran.

To some Christian Zionists, a showdown between Israel and Iran is the fulfillment of a crucial Biblical prediction

A sign celebrates U.S. President Donald Trump and Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee in central Jerusalem on May 7.

Edited Thursday at 12:32 AM by Phil1111

[nigel99 604]

34 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Thanks, The religious fanatics in Iran may have other ideas. Just like the Houthiis, Putin, Hamas, etc. the sacrifices of the public is secondary to ideology. After chanting "death to Israel, death to America" for forty five years peace or a treaty may be illusionary.

American evangelical Christians are all worked up about destroying Iran.

To some Christian Zionists, a showdown between Israel and Iran is the fulfillment of a crucial Biblical prediction

A sign celebrates U.S. President Donald Trump and Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee in central Jerusalem on May 7.

I joined dz.com back in 2002, as someone in my 20’s and still indoctrinated by my evangelical parents I used to argue with Kallend about merits of Christianity. 

Over the last 20 years I’ve come to detest evangelicals. They are truly a poisonous lot. 

[BIGUN 1,461]

9 hours ago, nigel99 said:

They are truly a poisonous lot. 

In the name of God. 

[Phil1111 1,156]

11 hours ago, nigel99 said:

I joined dz.com back in 2002, as someone in my 20’s and still indoctrinated by my evangelical parents I used to argue with Kallend about merits of Christianity. 

Over the last 20 years I’ve come to detest evangelicals. They are truly a poisonous lot. 

I was raised as a Catholic altar boy and I make a clear distinction between American evangelicals and real Christianity. Iranian Mullahs are a perversion of the will of any just God just as Trump is a follower of Jebus.

There are many loyal Christians, Mother Teresa a shining example "Mother Teresa is perhaps best known for the establishment of the Missionaries of Charity in 1950. With a humble beginning in Kolkata, India, this religious congregation expanded globally, becoming a beacon of hope for the poor, sick, and destitut" and "Catholic Charities USA is the national membership entity that provides resources and support to individual agencies throughout the United States. On the border, it is Catholic Charities of the Rio Grande Valley, Laredo, San Antonio, and San Diego that are doing most of the sheltering work with asylum seekers".

Edited Thursday at 12:25 PM by Phil1111

[wmw999 2,570]

Evangelicals used not to be generally political in the US. Pat Robertson decided to weaponize them after the protesting of the legalization of abortion and the Equal Rights Amendment showed they, too, could be motivated in secular matters.

Wendy P. 

[normiss 883]

Religion continues to be the deadliest thing on the planet.

I can never understand celebrating death over the beautiful life we somehow get to experience.

[nigel99 604]

54 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

Evangelicals used not to be generally political in the US. Pat Robertson decided to weaponize them after the protesting of the legalization of abortion and the Equal Rights Amendment showed they, too, could be motivated in secular matters.

Wendy P. 

As a kid my first exposure to Americans back in Zimbabwe was an American Prosperity cult pastor and his wife. Even as a 10-12 year old it made me angry to see how they exploited the poor. Promising that god would reward them for “giving”. Of course they drove around in the latest Merc’s and had a huge house in an exclusive neighbourhood. 

They were obsessed with Pat Robinson. 

A few funny events with them though (in hindsight). Pastors wife sitting me down and telling me it was against god to have long hair as a man, she read from the bible verse that included women shouldn’t have short hair - she had short hair. I hated church and only time she told me I was really “filled with the Holy Spirit” I was stoned. I got caught with a “girly magazine” at about 14 and they got the congregation around to burn it and cast the spirit of lust out of me - the magazine wouldn’t burn! That freaked them out. She got knocked up with someone’s kid cheating on the husband. 

[BIGUN 1,461]

4 minutes ago, nigel99 said:

and cast the spirit of lust out of me

Fail :)

[BIGUN 1,461]

1 hour ago, Phil1111 said:

There are many loyal Christians, Mother Teresa a shining example "Mother Teresa is perhaps best known for the establishment of the Missionaries of Charity in 1950. With a humble beginning in Kolkata, India, this religious congregation expanded globally, becoming a beacon of hope for the poor, sick, and destitut" and "Catholic Charities USA is the national membership entity that provides resources and support to individual agencies throughout the United States. On the border, it is Catholic Charities of the Rio Grande Valley, Laredo, San Antonio, and San Diego that are doing most of the sheltering work with asylum seekers".

The many outweigh the few. Unfortunately, the few started using mass media and outweighed the many. 

[Phil1111 1,156]

1 hour ago, normiss said:

Religion continues to be the deadliest thing on the planet.

I can never understand celebrating death over the beautiful life we somehow get to experience.

Hence the number of people that are "god fearing".

 

14 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

The many outweigh the few. Unfortunately, the few started using mass media and outweighed the many. 

How about the fake prophets spoiling it for the majority who live with pure intents?

[normiss 883]

31 minutes ago, nigel99 said:

As a kid my first exposure to Americans back in Zimbabwe was an American Prosperity cult pastor and his wife. Even as a 10-12 year old it made me angry to see how they exploited the poor. Promising that god would reward them for “giving”. Of course they drove around in the latest Merc’s and had a huge house in an exclusive neighbourhood. 

They were obsessed with Pat Robinson. 

A few funny events with them though (in hindsight). Pastors wife sitting me down and telling me it was against god to have long hair as a man, she read from the bible verse that included women shouldn’t have short hair - she had short hair. I hated church and only time she told me I was really “filled with the Holy Spirit” I was stoned. I got caught with a “girly magazine” at about 14 and they got the congregation around to burn it and cast the spirit of lust out of me - the magazine wouldn’t burn! That freaked them out. She got knocked up with someone’s kid cheating on the husband. 

I had a pastor's very attractive wife try to seduce me. LOL She sure was pretty nekkid.

Her preacher husband stole my Telarc Master cut album of the Beethoven 1812 Overture with digitally mastered 32 track live cannon fire. That album is known to destroy speaker cones and teach you to adjust a cartridge on the turntable. 

Asshole. Now I only have the CD version. IT'S NOT THE SAME ... sonically. Neither are my ears for that matter! 

There was a time when my girls were little and the nearest United Methodist Church seemed to be the least bible thumping affordable child care around. Some of the humans there were a MESS. Between child care and exposing my girls to everything as much as possible, it was a good place for child care. Actually made some good friends there too.

That particular church is dead now. When the old folks grew tired of the noise of children and stopped day care, child care during service, and early Sunday school. They shot themselves in the dick. Ha. 

[kallend 2,131]

3 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

Hence the number of people that are "god fearing".

 

How about the fake prophets spoiling it for the majority who live with pure intents?

The majority  enables the fraudsters.

[kallend 2,131]

3 hours ago, BIGUN said:

The many outweigh the few. Unfortunately, the few started using mass media and outweighed the many. 

It's perfectly possible to be a good caring kind person without having to believe in an invisible Jewish sky zombie who will let you burn in agony  for eternity if you don't worship him the correct way.

 

[BIGUN 1,461]

20 hours ago, kallend said:

It's perfectly possible to be a good caring kind person without having to believe

'nuff said. I have known both. 

[JoeWeber 2,900]

31 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

'nuff said. I have known both. 

A tale of two dogs, one a pleasant little fellow who aims to please and does what you want without effort and the other who seems to be a constant exercise in aversion therapy: they ain't the same dogs.

[BIGUN 1,461]

2 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

they ain't the same dogs.

We're talking about people, Joe. I've seen the best and worst of both believers and non-believers.

[JoeWeber 2,900]

Just now, BIGUN said:

We're talking about people, Joe. I've seen the best and worst of both believers and non-believers.

Same as dogs.

[Phil1111 1,156]

Just now, JoeWeber said:

Same as dogs.

Speaking of which I'm surprised Trump doesn't have a dog as their loyalty is unmatched. I guess there is Eric?

[JoeWeber 2,900]

Just now, BIGUN said:

We're talking about people, Joe. I've seen the best and worst of both believers and non-believers.

Seriously, you have to admit that those who do nice things under threat of damnation, and those are always selective nice things, aren't in any way equal to those who do nice things because their personal moral compass so guides them, no deity required. 

[billvon 3,095]

24 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Speaking of which I'm surprised Trump doesn't have a dog as their loyalty is unmatched.

Dogs are mirrors of their owners.  Trump would have it killed very quickly after it started acting like him.

[wmw999 2,570]

51 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Seriously, you have to admit that those who do nice things under threat of damnation, and those are always selective nice things, aren't in any way equal to those who do nice things because their personal moral compass so guides them, no deity required. 

But most Christians are also nice because it’s the right thing to do. After all, at least some traditions say whether you go to heaven or hell is predestined before you’re born. I find that most people are as good as is convenient, most of the time. So my job is to point out easy convenient things they can do…

Wendy P.