nigel99 617 #1 Posted June 9 https://www.theguardian.com/media/2025/jun/09/australian-reporter-shot-with-rubber-bullet-while-covering-anti-ice-protests-in-los-angeles Quite a lot of anger here as an Aussie journalist was shot with a rubber bullet while broadcasting and it’s clear on camera that the arsehole cop aimed at them and shot them. It wasn’t someone just caught in the crossfire. Mike Johnson has the nerve to talk about the rule of law… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,275 #2 June 9 The LA police have a very long history of being shitheads on patrol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #3 June 9 2 minutes ago, gowlerk said: The police have a very long history of being shitheads on patrol. Yeah Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,275 #4 June 9 1 minute ago, jakee said: Yeah Well yes. But I would appreciate it if you did not misquote me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #5 June 9 As we have seen throughout history, the authorities have never had any difficulty recruiting shitheads to do their dirty work. Not a good commentary on homo sapiens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #6 June 9 13 minutes ago, gowlerk said: Well yes. But I would appreciate it if you did not misquote me. I'm pretty sure there's no chance of anyone failing to notice what I did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #7 June 9 31 minutes ago, nigel99 said: Mike Johnson has the nerve to talk about the rule of law… They lost that right when they fell over themselves to celebrate and venerate the Jan 6th rioters. This is really another example of the folly of 'both-siderism', as I'm sure plenty of people will line up to claim that because the libs are hypocrites about some things then there's no difference between them and the new right being hypocrites about this. It's bollocks, really. MAGA and the new Republican party are very different and very dangerous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,940 #8 June 9 6 hours ago, kallend said: As we have seen throughout history, the authorities have never had any difficulty recruiting shitheads to do their dirty work. Not a good commentary on homo sapiens. And a worse commentary on who we have for police. What kind of a person wants to give a good sniff of CS gas and a whack on the head to someone protesting in support of what those masked, fully armed, ICE goons are doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #9 June 9 9 hours ago, jakee said: This is really another example of the folly of 'both-siderism', as I'm sure plenty of people will line up to claim that because the libs are hypocrites about some things then there's no difference between them and the new right being hypocrites about this. Yep. On another forum someone said "well Trump never hurt me!" and I listed five friends of mine who would likely be hurt by Trump (trans woman, immigration attorney, immigrant businessowner etc.) His reply was "well Harris probably would have hurt them too, so what's the difference?" There's an attitude by the right nowadays that any two bad things are equally bad. Have to pay 1% more taxes on capital gains? Have your elderly mother sent to a concentration camp? Same-same to them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,940 #10 June 9 49 minutes ago, billvon said: Yep. On another forum someone said "well Trump never hurt me!" and I listed five friends of mine who would likely be hurt by Trump (trans woman, immigration attorney, immigrant businessowner etc.) His reply was "well Harris probably would have hurt them too, so what's the difference?" There's an attitude by the right nowadays that any two bad things are equally bad. Have to pay 1% more taxes on capital gains? Have your elderly mother sent to a concentration camp? Same-same to them. It’s arguable that Trump hasn’t hurt me personally. But he has most certainly hurt what I believe and for me that’s worse. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,468 #11 June 10 Hi folks, How things have changed: calling on troops to protect civil rights advocates Why Lyndon Johnson federalized the National Guard in 1965 : NPR IMO LBJ was never a good person; but, I'll take him any day over what we have now. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 617 #12 June 10 21 hours ago, billvon said: Yep. On another forum someone said "well Trump never hurt me!" and I listed five friends of mine who would likely be hurt by Trump (trans woman, immigration attorney, immigrant businessowner etc.) His reply was "well Harris probably would have hurt them too, so what's the difference?" There's an attitude by the right nowadays that any two bad things are equally bad. Have to pay 1% more taxes on capital gains? Have your elderly mother sent to a concentration camp? Same-same to them. https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSk5PxEKP/ This video is doing the rounds. It’s Great example of peaceful protest and getting a message across respectfully. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 897 #13 June 11 19 hours ago, nigel99 said: https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSk5PxEKP/ This video is doing the rounds. It’s Great example of peaceful protest and getting a message across respectfully. Except it's on a communist owned platform and is therefore unreachable on any network I connect to or build. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 617 #14 June 11 1 hour ago, normiss said: Except it's on a communist owned platform and is therefore unreachable on any network I connect to or build. It’s on reddit as well but that’s the original Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 617 #15 June 11 Does anyone understand why the Mexican flags in the LA riots? It seems like the most idiotic move you could make. It gives credibility to Trump’s argument of an invasion and undermines the message of “we are here as Americans and for the American way of life” I’d imagine it would be confronting and possibly even offensive to many Americans seeing a foreign flag being waved as American flags are burnt, regardless of your views on Trump and immigration? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,940 #16 June 11 4 minutes ago, nigel99 said: Does anyone understand why the Mexican flags in the LA riots? It seems like the most idiotic move you could make. It gives credibility to Trump’s argument of an invasion and undermines the message of “we are here as Americans and for the American way of life” I’d imagine it would be confronting and possibly even offensive to many Americans seeing a foreign flag being waved as American flags are burnt, regardless of your views on Trump and immigration? Democrats are the party of self inflicted wounds, no surprise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 617 #17 June 11 14 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: Democrats are the party of self inflicted wounds, no surprise. As an American how do feel seeing the Mexican flags? I was chatting to a friend in LA last night and he says it’s all being blown up by the media and life is going on normal. That it’s just a relatively small area affected. He’s in Long Beach though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,588 #18 June 12 40 minutes ago, nigel99 said: As an American how do feel seeing the Mexican flags? I was chatting to a friend in LA last night and he says it’s all being blown up by the media and life is going on normal. That it’s just a relatively small area affected. He’s in Long Beach though. That's undoubtedly true, frankly. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #19 June 12 1 hour ago, nigel99 said: I was chatting to a friend in LA last night and he says it’s all being blown up by the media and life is going on normal. That it’s just a relatively small area affected. He’s in Long Beach though. Yep. I was in Portland right after the "autonomous zone" kerfuffle, which conservatives described as destroying Portland. I saw one piece of plywood on a broken window. That was it. There are plenty of cities in Louisiana that look worse than that year round. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 897 #20 June 12 2 hours ago, nigel99 said: Does anyone understand why the Mexican flags in the LA riots? It seems like the most idiotic move you could make. It gives credibility to Trump’s argument of an invasion and undermines the message of “we are here as Americans and for the American way of life” I’d imagine it would be confronting and possibly even offensive to many Americans seeing a foreign flag being waved as American flags are burnt, regardless of your views on Trump and immigration? Welcome to The First Amendment. I have never appreciated seeing our flag burned, it's emotional and hits me pretty deeply. That's the intent. I support the First Amendment FULLY. I'm angered to see it being attacked. I think this will get significantly worse. I will fully place the blame for what happens on the current criminal administration. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,940 #21 June 12 1 hour ago, nigel99 said: As an American how do feel seeing the Mexican flags? I was chatting to a friend in LA last night and he says it’s all being blown up by the media and life is going on normal. That it’s just a relatively small area affected. He’s in Long Beach though. All true, but the Mexican flags were unnecessarily inflammatory given the circumstances. Better, if winning in the court of public opinion is the desire and it damn well should be, would be Mexicans waving American flags. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #22 June 12 13 hours ago, nigel99 said: Does anyone understand why the Mexican flags in the LA riots? It seems like the most idiotic move you could make. It gives credibility to Trump’s argument of an invasion and undermines the message of “we are here as Americans and for the American way of life” I’d imagine it would be confronting and possibly even offensive to many Americans seeing a foreign flag being waved as American flags are burnt, regardless of your views on Trump and immigration? You can’t demand that an entire unorganised mob of people all act in the best, smartest, most rational way possible. It’s impossible, never gonna happen. Instead, you could point out to those rightwing snowflake Karens that if they’ve never previously complained about the offensiveness of seeing Irish flags fly in Boston on St Paddy’s day then maybe their racist asses can shut the fuck up about these flags? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #23 June 12 13 hours ago, JoeWeber said: Democrats are the party of self inflicted wounds, no surprise. You keep saying Democrats should grow a pair and start following the R’s playbook. So why fall over yourself to apologise for shit that doesn’t matter? Every white American is allowed to be proud of the countries their ancestors came from, so Mexican Americans should be no different. The correct PR play here is to tell anyone on the right to fuck off with their racist bullshit, then mock them for being afraid that some colours on a flag might hurt them. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,275 #24 June 12 2 hours ago, jakee said: Every white American is allowed to be proud of the countries their ancestors came from, so Mexican Americans should be no different. The puffed up patriotism that Americans tend to show is somewhat laughable. The projection of feelings of superiority in terms like "Manifest Destiny" and "City on a Hill" are downright obnoxious. But they did come to these feelings honestly. They learned them at the knee of the equally dreadful 18th century English. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,940 #25 June 12 2 hours ago, jakee said: You keep saying Democrats should grow a pair and start following the R’s playbook. So why fall over yourself to apologise for shit that doesn’t matter? Every white American is allowed to be proud of the countries their ancestors came from, so Mexican Americans should be no different. The correct PR play here is to tell anyone on the right to fuck off with their racist bullshit, then mock them for being afraid that some colours on a flag might hurt them. Do you have to be such an attack dog at every thin opportunity? I was not apologizing, I was positing. Furthermore, I live here, I vote here, I develop businesses for the economy here, I am directly and immediately affected by the politics here and I don't need some random brit base jumper telling me what is the "correct" way to respond to things that happen here. Things are different here in many more and nuanced ways than how we spell color. Maybe try to be a tad nicer and stop telling folks how to wipe their arse when making your points. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites