Trump's latest aphasia

[billvon 3,089]

16 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Joe,

Just saw this:  Former President Joe Biden has been diagnosed with prostate cancer, which has metastasized to the bone

And Trump and his allies have wasted no time; the attacks have already begun.

"What I want to know is how did Dr Jill Biden miss stage five metastatic cancer or is this yet another cover-up?"

[JoeWeber 2,866]

5 hours ago, dogyks said:

"May you live in interesting times."

Classic Chinese curse

Thanks for the insight. Indeed, the whole unfortunate mess is far less terrifying when viewed as just another comedic debacle. 

[JerryBaumchen 1,451]

3 hours ago, billvon said:

And Trump and his allies have wasted no time; the attacks have already begun.

"What I want to know is how did Dr Jill Biden miss stage five metastatic cancer or is this yet another cover-up?"

Hi Bill,

Just to show people how stupid the MAGA-World is, Jill Biden has doctorate in education, not medicine.

Jill Biden - Wikipedia

Jerry Baumchen

[billvon 3,089]

3 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Just to show people how stupid the MAGA-World is, Jill Biden has doctorate in education, not medicine.

These are people who think Trump is intelligent; might be asking a bit much to expect them to know that there are different kinds of doctors.

Meanwhile, while the right is !!!!OUTRAGED!!!!! that someone posted 86 47, they are also posting things like this:

[BIGUN 1,439]

31 minutes ago, billvon said:

Meanwhile, while the right is !!!!OUTRAGED!!!!! that someone posted 86 47, they are also posting things like this:

We have lost any sense of common decency.

[gowlerk 2,260]

2 hours ago, BIGUN said:

We have lost any sense of common decency.

Please be careful about how you use the word “we”.

[nigel99 586]

3 hours ago, gowlerk said:

Please be careful about how you use the word “we”.

I’ve been mulling over the situation in the US and I think it’s unprecedented. 

The rise of fascism and oligarchs are following a historical path and are nothing new. But I’m not sure the “reality TV” governing for ratings is not something that has happened before? 

The teasers of “I’m going to announce a big deal soon”, the baiting of journalists and foreign dignitaries with inflammatory posts or comments prior to meeting etc.

[BIGUN 1,439]

12 hours ago, gowlerk said:

Please be careful about how you use the word “we”.

We as a nation, we as a world. Social media and the need to make noise permeates our lives . . . To wish our Presidents get killed, our former President die a horrible death. Not a kind word from anyone, anymore. 

[JoeWeber 2,866]

3 hours ago, BIGUN said:

We as a nation, we as a world. Social media and the need to make noise permeates our lives . . . To wish our Presidents get killed, our former President die a horrible death. Not a kind word from anyone, anymore. 

Also, WE as in we self flagellating liberal reality denialists who easily could have been posting here a year or two ago that Biden was now too old and decrepit to run again instead of pretending otherwise. We who could have been writing our D representatives en masse again and again informing them that we had no intention of supporting Biden again in 2024. We who should have been clever enough to realize that our self serving, and already partially mummified, senior leaders like Pelosi, Cardin, Durbin, Blumenthal or Feinstein who hung on until she died of old age were never going to say Biden was too old to run again. The point I am remaking is that it's way too easy to blame dumb farmers who still have Trump 2024 banners on their barns instead of owning the major role we liberals played in seating this horrific administration. 

[normiss 871]

24 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Also, WE as in we self flagellating liberal reality denialists who easily could have been posting here a year or two ago that Biden was now too old and decrepit to run again instead of pretending otherwise. We who could have been writing our D representatives en masse again and again informing them that we had no intention of supporting Biden again in 2024. We who should have been clever enough to realize that our self serving, and already partially mummified, senior leaders like Pelosi, Cardin, Durbin, Blumenthal or Feinstein who hung on until she died of old age were never going to say Biden was too old to run again. The point I am remaking is that it's way too easy to blame dumb farmers who still have Trump 2024 banners on their barns instead of owning the major role we liberals played in seating this horrific administration. 

The big difference I see, Biden was getting positive results. Some of us fully expected the shit show we now see, albeit I am surprised at the speed of the destruction. Trump and the republicans are nothing short of a total disaster for the WORLD, not just the US.

I think most of us realized Biden was old, but I also think we were somewhat dishonestly misled about how bad he was getting. I had always thought it was important to keep Americans aware of the health of the POTUS (including the FOTUS I suppose). That, of course, is yet another "normal" thing we WERE used to seeing. The Felon administration is doing their damndest to destroy everything about America. Yay.

Thankfully it would appear that The Felon can identify some animals on a chart. He's just the bestest at every thing.

[JoeWeber 2,866]

18 minutes ago, normiss said:

The big difference I see, Biden was getting positive results. Some of us fully expected the shit show we now see, albeit I am surprised at the speed of the destruction. Trump and the republicans are nothing short of a total disaster for the WORLD, not just the US.

I think most of us realized Biden was old, but I also think we were somewhat dishonestly misled about how bad he was getting. I had always thought it was important to keep Americans aware of the health of the POTUS (including the FOTUS I suppose). That, of course, is yet another "normal" thing we WERE used to seeing. The Felon administration is doing their damndest to destroy everything about America. Yay.

Thankfully it would appear that The Felon can identify some animals on a chart. He's just the bestest at every thing.

Old and demented as Biden might be I still believe he'd be better than Trump. Unfortunately it is that shallow belief that blinded me to the reality that he is old and demented and no one I should have supported in 2024. Furthermore, I could have been public in my opposition and was not. Beto O'Rourke is now saying that Biden failed us in the most important job he had by running. Sure, agreed, but then where the F was he in 2023 using his pulpit when it might have mattered? I'm simply taking the same as my personal responsibility and suggesting that others might make the same consideration.

[JerryBaumchen 1,451]

51 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Old and demented as Biden might be I still believe he'd be better than Trump. Unfortunately it is that shallow belief that blinded me to the reality that he is old and demented and no one I should have supported in 2024. Furthermore, I could have been public in my opposition and was not. Beto O'Rourke is now saying that Biden failed us in the most important job he had by running. Sure, agreed, but then where the F was he in 2023 using his pulpit when it might have mattered? I'm simply taking the same as my personal responsibility and suggesting that others might make the same consideration.

Hi Mark & Joe,

I think most of us realized Biden was old, but I also think we were somewhat dishonestly misled about how bad he was getting.

 Old and demented as Biden might be I still believe he'd be better than Trump. Unfortunately it is that shallow belief that blinded me to the reality that he is old and demented and no one I should have supported in 2024.

I too think Biden would be better than what we have now; hell, just about anyone would be better.

IMO the real crime is the cover-up of Biden's condition.  I think the up-coming Jake Tapper book is going to be very interesting reading.

And, when we talk about those who hang on way too long; let us not forget RGB, she got us Trump's three picks on the Supremes.

Jerry Baumchen

New book alleges Biden aides hid his decline : Consider This from NPR : NPR

[JoeWeber 2,866]

3 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Mark & Joe,

I think most of us realized Biden was old, but I also think we were somewhat dishonestly misled about how bad he was getting.

 Old and demented as Biden might be I still believe he'd be better than Trump. Unfortunately it is that shallow belief that blinded me to the reality that he is old and demented and no one I should have supported in 2024.

I too think Biden would be better than what we have now; hell, just about anyone would be better.

IMO the real crime is the cover-up of Biden's condition.  I think the up-coming Jake Tapper book is going to be very interesting reading.

And, when we talk about those who hang on way too long; let us not forget RGB, she got us Trump's three picks on the Supremes.

Jerry Baumchen

New book alleges Biden aides hid his decline : Consider This from NPR : NPR

Most of us here are insulated from Trumps new world by age or money. In reality it's been that way for a long time. We look at the better good in terms of societal fairness and a system that allows for economic success but without the sacrifice of equity. So much for the good fight. Unless it gets to where the Black Maria pulls into the driveway some night the fundamentals of my life won't change much except I'll pay less tax. Also, and I suspect this will be generally true for many of us, unless something really serious develops that makes the political landscape more interesting and less depressing I'll gradually check out.

[dogyks 10]

3 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Also, WE as in we self flagellating liberal reality denialists who easily could have been posting here a year or two ago that Biden was now too old and decrepit to run again instead of pretending otherwise. We who could have been writing our D representatives en masse again and again informing them that we had no intention of supporting Biden again in 2024. We who should have been clever enough to realize that our self serving, and already partially mummified, senior leaders like Pelosi, Cardin, Durbin, Blumenthal or Feinstein who hung on until she died of old age were never going to say Biden was too old to run again. The point I am remaking is that it's way too easy to blame dumb farmers who still have Trump 2024 banners on their barns instead of owning the major role we liberals played in seating this horrific administration. 

Not supporting the scum that rose to the top on the right, but Woke is a disease of denial.

[gowlerk 2,260]

3 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Also, WE as in we self flagellating liberal reality denialists who easily could have been posting here a year or two ago that Biden was now too old and decrepit to run again instead of pretending otherwise.

I can remember doing so. Actually I remember that many people knew that all along. But once it became clear that he was going to run anyway everyone just grabbed onto the thin straw of hope that it would work out. Politicians are vain by nature. You have to be to go through what they must. Biden is no different.

Edited May 20 by gowlerk

[JoeWeber 2,866]

3 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

I can remember doing so.

.....that Biden was now too old and decrepit to run again.... or something softer?

[gowlerk 2,260]

1 minute ago, JoeWeber said:

.....that Biden was now too old and decrepit to run again.... or something softer?

see my edit above

[JoeWeber 2,866]

8 minutes ago, dogyks said:

Not supporting the scum that rose to the top on the right, but Woke is a disease of denial.

Woke as it is embraced by many is too all encompassing. For example, I don't think allowing or encouraging gender bending among kids, especially the permanent stuff makes sense. I do think treating our gay friends and citizens with absolute equality is the right thing. I also believe that recognizing societal injustices and making some accommodations that help level the playing field is right. I don't think that as a matter of policy candidates with great ability should be sidelined simply because more people are needed in a different column. Too far is never good policy and too far is now where the right is going in the false belief that DEI is ruining the world.

[JoeWeber 2,866]

16 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

I can remember doing so. Actually I remember that many people knew that all along. But once it became clear that he was going to run anyway everyone just grabbed onto the thin straw of hope that it would work out. Politicians are vain by nature. You have to be to go through what they must. Biden is no different.

Sure, that's the point. Many of us knew it but simply ignored it. 

[gowlerk 2,260]

31 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Sure, that's the point. Many of us knew it but simply ignored it. 

Pretty much had to. There was nothing you or Nancy or Chuck really could have done. The man was still strong enough to be stubborn and the only real argument was that he could not last four years. Just like with RBG stubborn pride screwed the nation and it is only themselves that are to blame. Actually Biden should not have been nominated in 2019 either. And that is where the party went wrong.

Edited May 20 by gowlerk

[JerryBaumchen 1,451]

9 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

Pretty had to. There was nothing you or Nancy or Chuck really could have done. The man was still strong enough to be stubborn and the only real argument was that he could not last four years. Just like with RBG stubborn pride screwed the nation and it is only themselves that are to blame. Actually Biden should not have been nominated in 2019 either. And that is where the party went wrong.

Hi Ken,

Back then, Biden was what I did not want on the ticket.  But, he got the nomination; then, it was a no-brainer on who I would be voting for.

In 2024, I supported Biden, until he opened his mouth at the debate.  I immediately knew that he could not win.  As many people have said:  Politics is not for the faint of heart.

Strom Thurmond, RBG, Biden, Feinstein; an infinite list.  It is ruining this country.

Jerry Baumchen

[TriGirl 341]

On 5/16/2025 at 6:54 PM, JerryBaumchen said:

Maybe Comey is on to something -> 86 47

Hey, Jerry,

Actually, we were already writing 86451103 back before the 2020 election (86 45 11/03).  

And for FOTUS to claim "86" refers to assassination -- that just goes to show he likes to associate with gangsters.  It's like saying "nice [life, family, car, business] you have here; would be a shame if something were to happen to it."  Defense attorneys would argue that "my client didn't make a threat!  He was just making a comment," while prosecutors would insist that in the realm of organized crime, that kind of language means that the one making the comment expects something to keep "something" from happening (threat).  In the world of normal people, "86" just means get rid of, or get out of office.  But since FOTUS likes to hang out with gangsters, where "get rid of" means "permanently," that's where his mind goes.

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1 hour ago, gowlerk said:

Actually Biden should not have been nominated in 2019 either. And that is where the party went wrong.

I agree with this.  I watched some of the youtube videos of him campaigning from his basement and could tell he was in decline.

[jakee 1,571]

2 hours ago, dogyks said:

Not supporting the scum that rose to the top on the right, 

Except that you literally do support them. You voted for them. Even now if the election was tomorrow you would vote for them again, because you support what they're doing.

[jakee 1,571]

9 hours ago, BIGUN said:

To wish our Presidents get killed...

What exactly do you think that comment has to do with the post you're replying to?