kallend 2,107 #1 Posted March 7 Well, it happened: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/establishment-of-the-strategic-bitcoin-reserveand-united-states-digital-asset-stockpile/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 569 #2 March 7 What are the implications? I’ve seen a few news articles but nothing explained the logic behind it or the risks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,107 #3 March 7 The whole thing just seems like a Monty Python sketch: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogyks 9 #4 March 7 3 hours ago, kallend said: Well, it happened: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/establishment-of-the-strategic-bitcoin-reserveand-united-states-digital-asset-stockpile/ Crypto simply uses a different magic wand than fiat currency. Actually, while fiat currency has zero inherent net worth, Bitcoin has negative inherent net worth. I had the unfortunate experience of studying math for many years, which has denied me the joy of gambling. I've never bought a lottery ticket, since the odds of winning are about the same either way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base698 20 #5 March 8 On 3/7/2025 at 6:36 AM, nigel99 said: What are the implications? I’ve seen a few news articles but nothing explained the logic behind it or the risks Positive Implications of a Bitcoin Strategic Reserve A Bitcoin strategic reserve could hedge against inflation and currency devaluation with its capped supply, offering the U.S. a diversified reserve asset while reducing reliance on dollar-dominated systems like SWIFT for geopolitical leverage. It might signal innovation, attracting blockchain businesses, tech talent, and investment to position the U.S. as a digital economy leader, potentially spurring financial sector growth through new products like Bitcoin-backed bonds. Additionally, speculative price appreciation could offset national debt, and government involvement might legitimize Bitcoin, encouraging broader adoption and fostering U.S.-based fintech ecosystems. Negative Implications of a Bitcoin Strategic Reserve A Bitcoin strategic reserve introduces significant risks, including Bitcoin’s volatility, which could destabilize national finances if prices crash, and cybersecurity threats from hacks targeting government-held assets, with stolen Bitcoin nearly unrecoverable. It might centralize control over a decentralized asset, eroding Bitcoin’s ethos and inviting regulatory burdens that favor large institutions over startups, while potentially straining international relations if other nations oppose or compete with their own digital currencies. Public backlash, political exploitation of failures, and global financial imbalances further complicate the gamble, especially without proven long-term stability. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,836 #6 March 8 (edited) 1 hour ago, base698 said: Positive Implications of a Bitcoin Strategic Reserve A Bitcoin strategic reserve could hedge against inflation and currency devaluation with its capped supply, offering the U.S. a diversified reserve asset while reducing reliance on dollar-dominated systems like SWIFT for geopolitical leverage. It might signal innovation, attracting blockchain businesses, tech talent, and investment to position the U.S. as a digital economy leader, potentially spurring financial sector growth through new products like Bitcoin-backed bonds. Additionally, speculative price appreciation could offset national debt, and government involvement might legitimize Bitcoin, encouraging broader adoption and fostering U.S.-based fintech ecosystems. Negative Implications of a Bitcoin Strategic Reserve A Bitcoin strategic reserve introduces significant risks, including Bitcoin’s volatility, which could destabilize national finances if prices crash, and cybersecurity threats from hacks targeting government-held assets, with stolen Bitcoin nearly unrecoverable. It might centralize control over a decentralized asset, eroding Bitcoin’s ethos and inviting regulatory burdens that favor large institutions over startups, while potentially straining international relations if other nations oppose or compete with their own digital currencies. Public backlash, political exploitation of failures, and global financial imbalances further complicate the gamble, especially without proven long-term stability. And when it all goes to hell you can sell your Bitcoins on Etsy and eBay along with your Beanie Babies and Pet Rocks. Edited March 8 by JoeWeber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,564 #7 March 8 5 hours ago, base698 said: while reducing reliance on dollar-dominated systems like SWIFT for geopolitical leverage. For the US, reducing global reliance on dollar dominated system sounds like a not positive thing... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 569 #8 March 8 9 hours ago, base698 said: Positive Implications of a Bitcoin Strategic Reserve A Bitcoin strategic reserve could hedge against inflation and currency devaluation with its capped supply, offering the U.S. a diversified reserve asset while reducing reliance on dollar-dominated systems like SWIFT for geopolitical leverage. It might signal innovation, attracting blockchain businesses, tech talent, and investment to position the U.S. as a digital economy leader, potentially spurring financial sector growth through new products like Bitcoin-backed bonds. Additionally, speculative price appreciation could offset national debt, and government involvement might legitimize Bitcoin, encouraging broader adoption and fostering U.S.-based fintech ecosystems. Negative Implications of a Bitcoin Strategic Reserve A Bitcoin strategic reserve introduces significant risks, including Bitcoin’s volatility, which could destabilize national finances if prices crash, and cybersecurity threats from hacks targeting government-held assets, with stolen Bitcoin nearly unrecoverable. It might centralize control over a decentralized asset, eroding Bitcoin’s ethos and inviting regulatory burdens that favor large institutions over startups, while potentially straining international relations if other nations oppose or compete with their own digital currencies. Public backlash, political exploitation of failures, and global financial imbalances further complicate the gamble, especially without proven long-term stability. Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base698 20 #9 March 9 21 hours ago, jakee said: For the US, reducing global reliance on dollar dominated system sounds like a not positive thing... Unless the dollar and systems regulating it are already cooked and powers abroad aren't onboarding into our control. The hope is Bitcoin based financial systems founded in the US could be under the US thumb. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogyks 9 #10 March 9 15 minutes ago, base698 said: Unless the dollar and systems regulating it are already cooked and powers abroad aren't onboarding into our control. The hope is Bitcoin based financial systems founded in the US could be under the US thumb. When Evner Hoxa was no longer in charge Albanians went on a buying spree, investing in Ponzi schemes. Apparently, when one failed there was then an intense search for another. No less than Bernie Madoff pointed out that the U.S. economy was a Ponzi scheme, and we're following the Albanian paradigm of seeking a replacement Ponzi scheme. I am unimpressed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,564 #11 March 10 16 hours ago, base698 said: Unless the dollar and systems regulating it are already cooked and powers abroad aren't onboarding into our control. The hope is Bitcoin based financial systems founded in the US could be under the US thumb. Well I wasn't convinced before, but I can't see what could possibly go wrong with a financial plan purely based on 'hope'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 569 #12 March 10 6 minutes ago, jakee said: Well I wasn't convinced before, but I can't see what could possibly go wrong with a financial plan purely based on 'hope'. Well the US is in its way to being a theocracy. Surprised they aren’t using thoughts and prayers, or Jesus parables of investing wisely Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites