jakee 1,596 #1 Posted January 31 (edited) During Trump's campaign he called on numerous times for tougher penalties including the death penalty for drug dealers. One of his first acts as president was to unconditionally pardon the founder of a site that sold hundreds of millions of dollars of illegal drugs and called the people who brought that drug dealer to justice in the first place 'scum'. Since Trump has absolute immunity for official acts it is completely legal for him to sell pardons so... how much do we think he got for it? Edited January 31 by jakee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 619 #2 February 1 4 hours ago, jakee said: During Trump's campaign he called on numerous times for tougher penalties including the death penalty for drug dealers. One of his first acts as president was to unconditionally pardon the founder of a site that sold hundreds of millions of dollars of illegal drugs and called the people who brought that drug dealer to justice in the first place 'scum'. Since Trump has absolute immunity for official acts it is completely legal for him to sell pardons so... how much do we think he got for it? 1kg of the finest Colombian produce for Don jnr 4 yrs free supply of adderral, ghb and viagra for Don Snr Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base698 20 #3 February 2 On 1/31/2025 at 1:11 PM, jakee said: During Trump's campaign he called on numerous times for tougher penalties including the death penalty for drug dealers. One of his first acts as president was to unconditionally pardon the founder of a site that sold hundreds of millions of dollars of illegal drugs and called the people who brought that drug dealer to justice in the first place 'scum'. Since Trump has absolute immunity for official acts it is completely legal for him to sell pardons so... how much do we think he got for it? People use telephones to sell drugs, maybe you'd advocate putting telecom execs in jail? Ross got more time than El Chapo and some of the evidence brought to light was fabricated. He did 12 years as a first time offender. Think he paid his due. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #4 February 3 7 hours ago, base698 said: People use telephones to sell drugs, maybe you'd advocate putting telecom execs in jail? He built a site specifically intended for people to sell drugs and other illegal products and services. Yes, I think other executives who do the same thing should go to jail. I think it's scandalous that it is so rare for the architects of illegal business practices to be prosecuted. Don't you? 7 hours ago, base698 said: Ross got more time than El Chapo So? Trump thinks El Chapo should have got the death penalty. 7 hours ago, base698 said: He did 12 years as a first time offender. So? Campaign trail Trump said people like him should be executed. 7 hours ago, base698 said: Think he paid his due. Yes, that's the question - how much did he pay? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 28 #5 February 9 On 1/31/2025 at 11:11 AM, jakee said: During Trump's campaign he called on numerous times for tougher penalties including the death penalty for drug dealers. One of his first acts as president was to unconditionally pardon the founder of a site that sold hundreds of millions of dollars of illegal drugs and called the people who brought that drug dealer to justice in the first place 'scum'. Since Trump has absolute immunity for official acts it is completely legal for him to sell pardons so... how much do we think he got for it? The same price the Biden cartel was paid,along with Adam Shift. He mentioned Trump Family 1st term pardons if issued, as an obvious admission of guilt, and yet he took one. This may seem like a "gottcha bitch " moment ,today,but it a four yr old story and was a play to the WH via the libertarian vote. Reason can be a good resource. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #6 February 9 26 minutes ago, richravizza said: This may seem like a "gottcha bitch " moment , There's nothing 'gotcha' about it. It's totally legal for Trump to take a large amount of money in exchange for pardoning someone he thinks should be executed, so there's nothing anyone can do about it. There's no come back. This is just curiosity. 28 minutes ago, richravizza said: was a play to the WH via the libertarian vote. Now that Trump is in the White House he doesn't need the libertarian vote any more, and he sure as shit isn't one himself. He's quite radically the opposite of that. And of course, he also made a play for the WH via the super tough law and order 'kill all drug dealers' vote. So why did he choose to take the side of Ross Ulbricht, a man who made a shit ton of money selling drugs and doubtless has a large stash of untraceable bitcoin squirrelled away? It's (not) a mystery... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #7 February 10 On 2/2/2025 at 2:40 PM, base698 said: People use telephones to sell drugs, maybe you'd advocate putting telecom execs in jail? If you have a telecom company that specifically has a special deal for drug dealers - "Anyone selling fentanyl gets 50% off their bill and unlimited data!" - then yes. If you want to look it up, it's called "aiding and abetting." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 28 #8 February 13 (edited) On 2/9/2025 at 7:31 PM, billvon said: If you have a telecom company that specifically has a special deal for drug dealers - "Anyone selling fentanyl gets 50% off their bill and unlimited data!" - then yes. If you want to look it up, it's called "aiding and abetting." Great conversation piece, so many ways to examine that topic. Nice move, an excellent side step in redirecting the conversation away from ...pardon me, Pardons. I thought I told you before...{sigh} We didn't Vote for him because of his morals we were forced to vote for him, in Spite of them. So back at ya....Sota like the DNC convention, where you have to vote one male, one female, and one of any gender.The funny part...they elected two white guys. It must be exhausting for you seeing the destruction of the Status Quo at the speed of life.I think the talking head are calling it a crisis. Edited February 13 by richravizza Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #9 February 13 10 minutes ago, richravizza said: Nice, an excellent side step in redirecting the conversation away from ...pardon me, Pardons. It was actually a direct answer to a question base698 asked. I know you don't like direct answers to questions without a lot of other blather, a million pardons, sorry, sorry. But by all means let us get back to the topic! How much do YOU think the drug dealer paid Trump for the pardon? We know he was in dire straits financially, and as you admit above he has no morals. Do you think $100 million would cover it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 28 #10 February 13 (edited) 2 hours ago, billvon said: It was actually a direct answer to a question base698 asked. I know you don't like direct answers to questions without a lot of other blather, a million pardons, sorry, sorry. But by all means let us get back to the topic! How much do YOU think the drug dealer paid Trump for the pardon? We know he was in dire straits financially, and as you admit above he has no morals. Do you think $100 million would cover it? I'll have to re read base comments,and stfu. I suggest you get your facts straight as to Who has the 100 million to pay whom. I'd be careful of who you slander.From a Navy Vet to CBS Twitter Google and facebook we see who is paying whom. Edited February 13 by richravizza my bad? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #11 February 13 Just now, richravizza said: Who has the 100 million to pay whom. Well let's see. Trump was reduced to selling sneakers to raise money, and Ulbrict had $5 billion in Bitcoin. So let's see - who would logically have the money to give to who? And did they want anything in return that the other can provide? I'll let you think on that for a bit. Trump has been clear that the American government is for sale. This is just the latest example. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites