JerryBaumchen 1,468 #526 Friday at 09:42 PM 4 hours ago, JoeWeber said: No, you don't got it. It's glib to accuse us of wanting concentration camps next. However, instead the proposed sanitary living conditions that afford opportunities to escape the endless cycle how's about the rest of us, you first, get assigned one or two homeless or psychologically damaged folks to support and help every 5 years or so? No? Of course not, you just want your conscious salved by having a certain level of concern applied from a distance and at a reasonable cost; and to stay engaged you believe the conversation then must be limited to the level of concern and the cost. I have many European friends who are super frustrated at the tax price they pay after following a political philosophy of write checks and don't ask questions for so long. Gifting sufficient free money to live comfortably and freedom, no strings attached, is not the solution. Hi Joe, Or as SSGT Don A. Willocks said to us, in Basic Training back in 1960, and which I have never forgotten: 'If you do not like the rules, don't play the game.' Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,945 #527 yesterday at 04:20 AM 9 hours ago, wmw999 said: I used to work for the food stamp office; yeah, there’s a willingness problem sometimes, and sometimes there’s a support problem. Parents who felt as though welfare was the best option because they had a kid or two with asthma and couldn’t afford medical bills. Lack of daycare (and this was the 70’s when standards and insurance were lower). And it’s hard to be a single parent of children and work a full time job. Cooking healthy food has to take a back seat sometimes. Welfare in Texas at the time did not pay enough to live on, so this was a serious consideration I used to posit a system where in exchange for some extra food stamps, qualified (remember, at the time that only meant having a heartbeat) people could provide childcare for the people working. Etc. barter. Now so many people are willing to sue for anything, dunno if it’d work Wendy P. Maybe free government run child care -no religion involved with my tax dollars though- that included some health services and was education focused is an answer. Parents would need to accept that the system needs to know about their personal lives or whatever else the system needed to know in exchange. Job workshops, or maybe jobs in the system, could help get the parents on track. And somehow, some way, we'd need to get comfortable requiring birth control and birth terminations for people that can't care for the kids they already have. Unfortunately, as ever, religion will be opposed. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,489 #528 yesterday at 10:15 AM 5 hours ago, JoeWeber said: Maybe free government run child care -no religion involved with my tax dollars though- that included some health services and was education focused is an answer. That's called the Public School System. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,945 #529 23 hours ago 4 hours ago, BIGUN said: That's called the Public School System. Used to be. You might check the news on what some of your republican brethren think is good curriculum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 28 #530 20 hours ago 3 hours ago, JoeWeber said: Used to be. You might check the news on what some of your republican brethren think is good curriculum. We could ask the public schools and teachers Union to do a better job. We could hold them to a higher standard. If they don't meet our expectations or are incapable, we can take our tax dollars elsewhere. If you're hinting at the recent SCotUS opt out ruling about our "good" curriculum, I'll agree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,468 #531 18 hours ago Hi folks, Wonder how much he supports Trump now: Roland Mehrez Beainy, a co-owner of Trump Burger in Texas, is facing deportation. Trump Burger co-owner faces ICE deportation Maybe Trump did not like his burgers. The craziness continues. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,489 #532 3 hours ago 20 hours ago, JoeWeber said: Used to be. No it still is - a child care facility with nursing, food - education-focused; not so much. 54% of U.S. adults read below the equivalent of a sixth-grade level. Virtually every country rates higher than us. Azerbaijan, Cuba, Ukraine, Jordan, Spain, Uruguay, North Macedonia are all at 98% or greater adult literacy rates. We are at half. Half! https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/mkd/north-macedonia/literacy-rate U.S. students ranked 28th out of 37 OECD member countries in math. In science, the U.S. ranked 12th out of 37 OECD countries. Health Education - Hell, we don't even require a gym class anymore. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/24/most-americans-think-us-k-12-stem-education-isnt-above-average-but-test-results-paint-a-mixed-picture/ So yes, I lean right on doing better in teaching - Reading, Science, Math and health education. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites