Aren't You Glad You Voted For Trump

[JoeWeber 2,940]

2 hours ago, kallend said:

Didn't think the leopard would eat their faces.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2025/small-farms-trump-government-cuts/

 

And more sadness. Ahh..., poor babies.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/05/22/metro/trump-deportations-sow-fear-among-vermont-migrants-farmers/

Excerpt:

SHELDON, Vt. — Dustin Machia was excited to vote for Donald Trump for president last year, in part because he pledged to crack down on illegal immigration.

“We had a border problem,” Machia said. “We don’t want bad people in here. We don’t need the drugs and the gangbangers.”

But following high-profile deportations of migrant farmworkers in northern Vermont, Machia, a fifth-generation dairy farmer, said he feels misled.

“All the dairy farmers who voted for Trump were under the impression they weren’t going to come on farms and take our guys,” said Machia, 37. “It’s happening more than we’d like. It’s scaring the farming community and we’re like, ‘This wasn’t supposed to happen.’”

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1 hour ago, JoeWeber said:

And more sadness. Ahh..., poor babies.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/05/22/metro/trump-deportations-sow-fear-among-vermont-migrants-farmers/

Excerpt:

SHELDON, Vt. — Dustin Machia was excited to vote for Donald Trump for president last year, in part because he pledged to crack down on illegal immigration.

“We had a border problem,” Machia said. “We don’t want bad people in here. We don’t need the drugs and the gangbangers.”

But following high-profile deportations of migrant farmworkers in northern Vermont, Machia, a fifth-generation dairy farmer, said he feels misled.

“All the dairy farmers who voted for Trump were under the impression they weren’t going to come on farms and take our guys,” said Machia, 37. “It’s happening more than we’d like. It’s scaring the farming community and we’re like, ‘This wasn’t supposed to happen.’”

It's like the documentary done a few years ago on anti-abortion activists who had abortions -- "well, MINE was necessary, I shouldn't be judged!"

Or Leona Helmsley, and only the little people pay taxes. Except, of course, that one's actually true.

Wendy P.

[JerryBaumchen 1,468]

1 hour ago, JoeWeber said:

And more sadness. Ahh..., poor babies.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/05/22/metro/trump-deportations-sow-fear-among-vermont-migrants-farmers/

Excerpt:

SHELDON, Vt. — Dustin Machia was excited to vote for Donald Trump for president last year, in part because he pledged to crack down on illegal immigration.

“We had a border problem,” Machia said. “We don’t want bad people in here. We don’t need the drugs and the gangbangers.”

But following high-profile deportations of migrant farmworkers in northern Vermont, Machia, a fifth-generation dairy farmer, said he feels misled.

“All the dairy farmers who voted for Trump were under the impression they weren’t going to come on farms and take our guys,” said Machia, 37. “It’s happening more than we’d like. It’s scaring the farming community and we’re like, ‘This wasn’t supposed to happen.’”

Hi Joe,

Re:   ‘This wasn’t supposed to happen.’

I'm thinking this might just be the legacy of Trump 2.0.

Jerry Baumchen

 

 

[kallend 2,148]

2 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

And more sadness. Ahh..., poor babies.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/05/22/metro/trump-deportations-sow-fear-among-vermont-migrants-farmers/

Excerpt:

SHELDON, Vt. — Dustin Machia was excited to vote for Donald Trump for president last year, in part because he pledged to crack down on illegal immigration.

“We had a border problem,” Machia said. “We don’t want bad people in here. We don’t need the drugs and the gangbangers.”

But following high-profile deportations of migrant farmworkers in northern Vermont, Machia, a fifth-generation dairy farmer, said he feels misled.

“All the dairy farmers who voted for Trump were under the impression they weren’t going to come on farms and take our guys,” said Machia, 37. “It’s happening more than we’d like. It’s scaring the farming community and we’re like, ‘This wasn’t supposed to happen.’”

Those damn leopards!

[richravizza 28]

On 5/23/2025 at 6:34 AM, billvon said:

Most men die with prostate cancer.  Most men don't know it.

Of course, if you aspire to ignorance and praise the uneducated, you likely would not know that. 

 It's going to be impossible to have an alliance with you if you use words like that,But "you likely would not know that." And a good dubie partisan deflection away from the word President. He is not Most Men. But I agree with you in most men.Did you get a copy of Tappers book yet? 

 We won't.Those ignorant, uneducated folks,lol We knew the truth all along,not the cancer part, but his cognitive state. Those with the courage to speak up; dangerous conspirators at worse,ignorant conspiracy theorists at best.Most of us could recognize what your lying eyes couldn't see. Some of us have had a family member regrettably with sich symptoms we can recognize from across the room. 

 I heard the Dem party is spending millions trying to connect with young men,... a Joe Rogan for the left. I can help them, and I need the cash.Unfortunately, they will find out the hard way, because it's not the man, it's the message. 

[richravizza 28]

On 5/23/2025 at 10:34 AM, TriGirl said:

Yes, it means to get rid of, or "dump" Trump. In restaurant terms, it means to take an item off the availability list because the kitchen ran out of it.  In 2020 the numbers were 86451103 (election day in 2020 was Nov 3).  The only people who think "86" means to assassinate are those who would also consider "take care of" as having the same meaning.

Funny, because a crime boss would try to say in court that he wasn't making a threat when he told someone that they had a nice family, and "it would be a real shame if something happened to them." 

 Or it means he's selling a book, paisan. He knew exactly why and what it could mean. I believe SS took him in for questioning, The violent political rhetoric knows no bounds, and you can try and contextualize it, all you want. But when his job was to investigate organized crime,the excuses are Biden esq. but pure Comey.

Funny, every mut Italian knows, 80 miles out of town, 6 feet deep.

Damn it!....now I have go to the toilet,Comey Calls.

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[richravizza 28]

 

On 5/24/2025 at 12:07 PM, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Joe,

Re:   ‘This wasn’t supposed to happen.’

I'm thinking this might just be the legacy of Trump 2.0.

Jerry Baumchen

 

 

 Those Vermont farmers are a legal hardy bunch, they take the good with the bad, with Oil down, Inflation down, Illegal border crossings Down,just an inconvenient  tradeoff. 

You guys, The Dem party have a long road in earning back the trust of the American people. Keep flying those foreign flags.Keep resisting and protesting it's a case study in the mob rules,where law becomes a simple suggestion." A symptom of a deeper crisis, crisis of Principle, Reason,and the Rule of Law itself."

Peace,

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On 5/23/2025 at 1:54 PM, kallend said:

What I find depressing is that authoritarian rulers can always find a large cadre of people to do their nasty bidding.  Gestapo, SS, Stasi, KGB, NKVD, COINTELPRO, BOSS come to mind.

 

EDIT - oh, and ICE

Such a level headed comparison...just may be, causing your depression. Tom would like a word with you It just may help with them Blues. 

A tune while we wait?

 

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[jakee 1,595]

2 hours ago, richravizza said:

 Or it means he's selling a book, paisan. He knew exactly why and what it could mean. 

Yeah, to throw someone out. That’s exactly what it means.

2 hours ago, richravizza said:

 The violent political rhetoric knows no bounds,

Poor little cupcake, if you think this is boundless violent rhetoric you must find the world to be a very scary and overwhelming place.

[JerryBaumchen 1,468]

Hi folks,

Geez, I thought it was:  “This is not what we voted for,”

Latinas for Trump co-founder blasts ‘inhumane’ immigrant arrests

More voters who are getting their just desserts.

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  Once again:  It is all well and good until it is your ox that is getting gored.

Edited June 9 by JerryBaumchen

[JoeWeber 2,940]

On 6/9/2025 at 11:06 AM, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

Geez, I thought it was:  “This is not what we voted for,”

Latinas for Trump co-founder blasts ‘inhumane’ immigrant arrests

More voters who are getting their just desserts.

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  Once again:  It is all well and good until it is your ox that is getting gored.

Gawd, do I love stories like this. Yes, it sucks for the workers but it seems only intense personal pain gets through to Trump voters so it has to be. 

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-mass-deportation-2672359165/

[JerryBaumchen 1,468]

1 hour ago, JoeWeber said:

Gawd, do I love stories like this. Yes, it sucks for the workers but it seems only intense personal pain gets through to Trump voters so it has to be. 

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-mass-deportation-2672359165/

Hi Joe,

Re:   it seems only intense personal pain gets through to Trump voters so it has to be. 

Once again, as Jackie Gleason would say:  How sweet it is.

Jerry Baumchen

 

[JerryBaumchen 1,468]

Hi folks,

Add one more to the list:  Santa Maria, who voted for Trump in the 2024 election, says she'd hoped that his Department of Government Efficiency would bring technical expertise and upgrades

Congress may end a key federal employee retirement benefit : NPR

As my grandmother would say:  Poor simps.

Jerry Baumchen

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Hi folks,

Anyone want to buy a pillow:  A jury in Denver, Colorado, ordered Mr Lindell to pay $2.3m to Eric Coomer, a former security and product strategy director at Dominion Voting Systems.

Mike Lindell: MyPillow boss loses $2.3m defamation case

Jerry Baumchen

[normiss 896]

It was most impressive to see The Felon fumble the announcement of a framework for an agreement to move forward on the concept of a plan to have a series of talks that could lead to the negotiation of a discussion about the possibility of reaching a trade agreement...which he littered the ground with while being a complete buffoon. 

So he TACO'ed and went home. He's been pouting ever since.

[JerryBaumchen 1,468]

2 hours ago, normiss said:

It was most impressive to see The Felon fumble the announcement of a framework for an agreement to move forward on the concept of a plan to have a series of talks that could lead to the negotiation of a discussion about the possibility of reaching a trade agreement...which he littered the ground with while being a complete buffoon. 

So he TACO'ed and went home. He's been pouting ever since.

Hi Mark,

So do the vets who voted for Trump support this:  The Guardian reported that “doctors and other medical staff can also be barred from working at VA hospitals based on their marital status, political party affiliation or union activity.”

Trump administration denies report of new VA hospital rules

Somebody must have read Mein Kampf to Trump.

Next it will be blue-eyed blonds only; all others, tough shit.

Jerry Baumchen

 

[JoeWeber 2,940]

Just now, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Mark,

So do the vets who voted for Trump support this:  The Guardian reported that “doctors and other medical staff can also be barred from working at VA hospitals based on their marital status, political party affiliation or union activity.”

Trump administration denies report of new VA hospital rules

Somebody must have read Mein Kampf to Trump.

Next it will be blue-eyed blonds only; all others, tough shit.

Jerry Baumchen

 

They are as blinded to reality as all second time Trump voters, hence the ease with which Trump can use them as witting tools. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/09/30/military-veterans-remain-a-republican-group-backing-trump-over-harris-by-wide-margin/

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59 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

They are as blinded to reality as all second time Trump voters, hence the ease with which Trump can use them as witting tools. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/09/30/military-veterans-remain-a-republican-group-backing-trump-over-harris-by-wide-margin/

Hey, Joe.

At that time, before the election, agreed.  You could also just characterize the gap as being between enlisted and officers, as there are orders of magnitude more enlisted veterans than commissioned officer veterans (I still see it amongst the active duty ranks of both groups).  However, especially for veterans, the ones actually seeing the long-term effects of his policies are starting to make some noise.  The only problem is where they get their info. If they don't hear about the issues, they won't be opposed until it happens to them.  And another "majority" demographic: if they aren't unmarried women or if they supported Trump, these protections for veterans seeking VA services won't change for them at all.

T

[wmw999 2,588]

Too much of what they’re doing is of the “it’s broken, we have a plan to fix it so you’d better trust us, or we’ll just take over” type of stuff. Which is concerning. I’d bet that Brad Lander (recently arrested NYC mayoral candidate) had two goals with his stunt; one to raise his profile as willing to make waves, but also to see if there is a new declaration from on high about what makes a candidate eligible; thereby testing the rails.

Wendy P. 

[JoeWeber 2,940]

19 hours ago, TriGirl said:

Hey, Joe.

At that time, before the election, agreed.  You could also just characterize the gap as being between enlisted and officers, as there are orders of magnitude more enlisted veterans than commissioned officer veterans (I still see it amongst the active duty ranks of both groups).  However, especially for veterans, the ones actually seeing the long-term effects of his policies are starting to make some noise.  The only problem is where they get their info. If they don't hear about the issues, they won't be opposed until it happens to them.  And another "majority" demographic: if they aren't unmarried women or if they supported Trump, these protections for veterans seeking VA services won't change for them at all.

T

Are white women in the Military as Trumpy by percentage as those in civilian life? Are there more "Christians" by percentage in our military, as it so seems? Whatever is going on it seems wrong and dangerous to me that our military doesn't more directly represent the general population.

Maybe you know this, but it will probably chap your ass after giving so much of your life to being an officer, but the Army is now offering direct commissions as lieutenant colonel to tech bros who donated to Trump so they can play Army in their spare time. https://www.usar.army.mil/Locate-a-Reserve-Unit/How-to-Join/Direct-Commission/  First up are : Andrew Bosworth, CTO of Meta; Shyam Sankar, CTO Palantir; Kevin Weil, CPO of OpenAI; and Bob McGrew, OpenAI’s former research chief and current advisor to Thinking Machines Lab. 

[BIGUN 1,486]

2 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Maybe you know this, but it will probably chap your ass after giving so much of your life to being an officer, but the Army is now offering direct commissions as lieutenant colonel to tech bros who donated to Trump so they can play Army in their spare time. https://www.usar.army.mil/Locate-a-Reserve-Unit/How-to-Join/Direct-Commission/ 

That's always been the case, Joe. Going back to WWII; Teachers, Lawyers, Engineers, Veterinarians, etc. I can't speak to who you listed. Been staying away from the news for a few days.

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13 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

That's always been the case, Joe. Going back to WWII; Teachers, Lawyers, Engineers, Veterinarians, etc. I can't speak to who you listed. Been staying away from the news for a few days.

Makes me wonder when the field promotions ended and why.

[JoeWeber 2,940]

Just now, BIGUN said:

That's always been the case, Joe. Going back to WWII; Teachers, Lawyers, Engineers, Veterinarians, etc. I can't speak to who you listed. Been staying away from the news for a few days.

Yes, I know. But of those professional types I'm guessing that most didn't donate millions to Trump or sponsor his miserable parade as did these guys and their companies. 

[BIGUN 1,486]

1 hour ago, normiss said:

Makes me wonder when the field promotions ended and why.

It didn't end. Sometime during Bush's administration; there was a cap put on them. Rather than seeing if the cap was met; they just kinda quit the effort. 

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[normiss 896]

13 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

It didn't end. Sometime during Bush's administration; there was a cap put on them. Rather than seeing if the cap was met; they just kinda quit the effort. 

Pretty much what I expected.