normiss 867 #301 April 18 1 hour ago, wmw999 said: It's a follow-on to the doctrine during the Iraq war that torture was OK as long as it wasn't on US soil (e.g. Gitmo and extractions). Funny how decisions have consequences. Wendy P. It's disturbing to see how happily some humans support the heinous treatment of other humans, so long as it's not them. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,566 #302 April 18 1 hour ago, normiss said: Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done. The dynamic of that was interesting too. El Salvador gets paid a lot of money to take deportees and stick them in prison for no legal reason. When asked in the White House to send one of them back El Presidente said (paraphrasing) 'fuck you, the USA doesn't tell me what to do" and President Trump who is so sensitive to disrespect and ingratitude said "Hey this guy is so great isn't he?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 578 #303 April 18 (edited) 2 hours ago, normiss said: It's disturbing to see how happily some humans support the heinous treatment of other humans, so long as it's not them. Yesterday I saw a meme with 2 confronting images side by side. On the left was a train from 2nd world war Germany, the right was prisoners boarding a plane to El Salvador. The caption was “First trains, now planes” Edited April 18 by nigel99 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,450 #304 April 18 3 hours ago, normiss said: It's disturbing to see how happily some humans support the heinous treatment of other humans, so long as it's not them. Hi Mark, As I continue to say: It is all well & good until it is your ox that is getting gored. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,085 #305 April 19 2 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Mark, As I continue to say: It is all well & good until it is your ox that is getting gored. Jerry Baumchen "I never thought they would eat MY face!" sobs supporter of Leopards Eating People's Faces party. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 28 #306 April 20 (edited) On 4/18/2025 at 12:49 PM, nigel99 said: Yesterday I saw a meme with 2 confronting images side by side. On the left was a train from 2nd world war Germany, the right was prisoners boarding a plane to El Salvador. The caption was “First trains, now planes” What does the left Know about memes, your good for a cartoon or two. But the meme breaks down with your Nazi insinuation and the definition of innocences.LOL Yatzee rallies at MSG and planes to gas chambers, you really need a new angle. Perhaps your a reincarnation and you were born again in the wrong time,Or a good case of 420. Either way let the dog piled begin. Since American politic seems to be your thang. You set yourself up. This lineup is impressive as well as the message let me know if you find one. Let me know what type of music you prefer. On the vine, you fight on,you fight on. Edited April 20 by richravizza Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,556 #307 April 20 To the Germans of the Nazi era, the Jews were guilty. Wendy P. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,450 #308 April 21 (edited) 52 minutes ago, wmw999 said: To the Germans of the Nazi era, the Jews were guilty. Wendy P. Hi Wendy, Not all Germans; just the members of the National Socialist German Worker's Party. While small, there was an underground resistance to the Third Reich. Consider Elise & Otto Hampel: Every Man Dies Alone - Wikipedia Jerry Baumchen PS) And, we should not forget: Operation Valkyrie - Wikipedia Edited April 21 by JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,556 #309 April 21 Not all, but more and more went along with it. Because it was trumpeted all the time. People are people. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,085 #310 April 21 2 hours ago, wmw999 said: To the Germans of the Nazi era, the Jews were guilty. Wendy P. Of course they were! And you could tell because they had tattoos. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,450 #311 April 21 Hi folks, As expected: A wave of economic optimism accompanied Trump’s reelection in November, but that has disappeared. New Trump poll numbers find public in foul mood over president's handling of economy - oregonlive.com So, the question, it seems to me, is: Will they vote for his replacement? Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,854 #312 April 21 3 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi folks, As expected: A wave of economic optimism accompanied Trump’s reelection in November, but that has disappeared. New Trump poll numbers find public in foul mood over president's handling of economy - oregonlive.com So, the question, it seems to me, is: Will they vote for his replacement? Jerry Baumchen Probably. Haven’t you heard the idea that AOC is a viable option? We aren’t fast learners hence our ‘tard designation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,450 #313 April 22 Hi folks, As expected, the GOP just wants to keep its collective head in the sand: Oregon Republican lawmakers tiptoe around Trump administration’s tariffs, their impact on Oregon - oregonlive.com Gutless across the board. IMO Oregon is representative of the nation. Jerry Baumchen 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,450 #314 April 24 Hi folks, Well, so much for supporting Trump: Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders (R-Ark.) requested help for people who were impacted by the mid-March tornadoes . . . The Trump administration denied Sanders’s request Arkansas appeals Trump administration denial of federal aid for tornado recovery This is the kind of thing that happens when you try to cut a steak with a chain saw. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,450 #315 April 27 Hi folks, Looks like they are running scared: None of them, a collection of swing-district conservatives from across Arizona, Colorado, California, Iowa, Nebraska, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, hosted in-person events that were open to the public. Swing-district Republican lawmakers aren't holding town halls | AP News The Dems have to defeat them if we want to stop Trump. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,556 #316 April 27 2 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi folks, Looks like they are running scared: None of them, a collection of swing-district conservatives from across Arizona, Colorado, California, Iowa, Nebraska, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, hosted in-person events that were open to the public. Swing-district Republican lawmakers aren't holding town halls | AP News The Dems have to defeat them if we want to stop Trump. Jerry Baumchen Yes, absolutely. And accepting questions from people who disagree with them will be key. So they need to start talking with Republicans now. Wendy P. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,450 #317 April 27 9 minutes ago, wmw999 said: Yes, absolutely. And accepting questions from people who disagree with them will be key. So they need to start talking with Republicans now. Wendy P. Hi Wendy, I'm thinking you mean Republican voters. Jerry Baumchen 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 28 #318 April 27 On 4/18/2025 at 10:39 AM, normiss said: It's disturbing to see how happily some humans support the heinous treatment of other humans, so long as it's not them. Quite profound, if only the minority party was capable of such introspect.We could have avoided al the self induced Crisis entirely,lol and you would have the "code" to the new majority successes. Try and fit a different perspective,the heinous treatment, being perpetrated on the Citizens. Such a lens is lost deemed irrelevant to the postmodern, Cosmopolitan Worldview. I won't push back with the Citizen as the victims angle, or the human trafficking, murders, drugs.The unintended consequences of open border worldview. Be Careful, the citizen as the victim angle, could make us hitlerian...LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,556 #319 April 27 And how exactly were you and yours victimized? Did you have to move? Or do you just hate that it’s considered rude now by more people to make fun of minorities, women, and handicapped people? Or was it being forced to wear masks (which don’t, in fact, cut off your oxygen supply) Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,085 #320 April 27 1 hour ago, richravizza said: Quite profound, if only the minority party was capable of such introspect.We could have avoided al the self induced Crisis entirely Absolutely. We would not have such a crisis under Harris. Quote Try and fit a different perspective,the heinous treatment, being perpetrated on the Citizens. Ah yes. You are the persecuted victim of the mean n evil lefties, who DARE to criticize your party! It's impossible to even live like that! Meanwhile, the innocent people being deported to concentration camps are getting free meals, the lucky stiffs. Quote I won't push back with the Citizen as the victims angle Too late! Quote or the human trafficking, murders, drugs.The unintended consequences of open border worldview. Human trafficking - sending innocent victims to concentration camps in foreign countries Murders - Heather Heyer and Brian Sicknick come to mind. Trump supporter Patrick Wood Crusius murdered 23 people to stop all the illegals, acting at what he believed to be the direction of Trump. And of course Trump supporter Phoenix Ikner is the most recent, killing two at a school shooting. On social media he regularly posted support for both Trump and Hitler. Drugs - we have a former heroin addict in charge of things at the HHS. When Kim Kardashian asked him to, Trump pardoned convicted drug trafficker Alice Marie Johnson. Well, first she had to praise Trump at the 2020 Republican National Convention, but then he was happy to pardon that drug dealer. I guess the drug trafficker was white enough. Overall Trump pardoned 22 drug dealers. Not sure how much each pardon cost, but sorta puts lie to the "anti-drug republicans" eh? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,450 #321 May 2 Hi folks, Looks like promises are nothing but wind: These rural communities were awarded grants from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to fix long-standing infrastructure problems, and they expected funding to be delivered this year. But last month, the Trump administration canceled their grants and hundreds of others, including ones that had already been promised but not yet paid out. Local governments scramble to replace federal disaster funding : NPR Once Trump cuts off funds for NPR, they won't be able to keep us informed about things like this. Bet those folks are really glad that they voted for Trump. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 28 #322 May 4 On 4/27/2025 at 2:13 PM, wmw999 said: And how exactly were you and yours victimized? Did you have to move? Or do you just hate that it’s considered rude now by more people to make fun of minorities, women, and handicapped people? Or was it being forced to wear masks (which don’t, in fact, cut off your oxygen supply) Wendy P. Mandated,dictated and locked us up in some insane attempt to protect us. The inverted quarantine for some and open borders and justified civil unrest for others. A Soft totalitarianism, I don't think you could recognize and appreciate.To the informed Citizen, labeled "Conspiracy theorist" and having natural immunity,the force was apparent. As for that mask,Try wearing two,or was it three, at 40k ppm, we know you could run a marathon.lol Joking aside, Back to Ayn and VDH and to bills chagrin, let's compare notes. I think our key adjective and agreements maybe be found in the "force" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 28 #323 May 4 On 4/27/2025 at 3:02 PM, billvon said: Absolutely. We would not have such a crisis under Harris. Ah yes. You are the persecuted victim of the mean n evil lefties, who DARE to criticize your party! It's impossible to even live like that! Meanwhile, the innocent people being deported to concentration camps are getting free meals, the lucky stiffs. Too late! Human trafficking - sending innocent victims to concentration camps in foreign countries Murders - Heather Heyer and Brian Sicknick come to mind. Trump supporter Patrick Wood Crusius murdered 23 people to stop all the illegals, acting at what he believed to be the direction of Trump. And of course Trump supporter Phoenix Ikner is the most recent, killing two at a school shooting. On social media he regularly posted support for both Trump and Hitler. Drugs - we have a former heroin addict in charge of things at the HHS. When Kim Kardashian asked him to, Trump pardoned convicted drug trafficker Alice Marie Johnson. Well, first she had to praise Trump at the 2020 Republican National Convention, but then he was happy to pardon that drug dealer. I guess the drug trafficker was white enough. Overall Trump pardoned 22 drug dealers. Not sure how much each pardon cost, but sorta puts lie to the "anti-drug republicans" eh? I suppose your fallacies, strawman,whataboutisms, gaslighting and innuendos are par for those living a luxury belief system.Strange sort of reality, No wonder we troll those and their hitlerian fears. Harris Biden the Dems and the Left's utopian dream of Citizenship and a Border is your crisis. To you and her credit, we may go unburdened by what has been. ? Ya, because the 100,000 overdose death are because of republican policies,eh? We should assume the cesspool of SanFran and LA are GOPs fault too and Soros good. Bill, Please Preemptive Pardon me. But in the words of an icon. "I'm not here to rewrite history for your comfort" Pay close attention to your exit, the first couple seconds compliment a successful jump, pull at or just before the 57sec. mark. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogyks 9 #324 May 5 13 hours ago, richravizza said: I suppose your fallacies, strawman,whataboutisms, gaslighting and innuendos are par for those living a luxury belief system.Strange sort of reality, No wonder we troll those and their hitlerian fears. Harris Biden the Dems and the Left's utopian dream of Citizenship and a Border is your crisis. To you and her credit, we may go unburdened by what has been. ? Ya, because the 100,000 overdose death are because of republican policies,eh? We should assume the cesspool of SanFran and LA are GOPs fault too and Soros good. Bill, Please Preemptive Pardon me. But in the words of an icon. "I'm not here to rewrite history for your comfort" Pay close attention to your exit, the first couple seconds compliment a successful jump, pull at or just before the 57sec. mark. Referencing Sowell is casting pearls before swine intellectually. He provides data, and the response is "Feelings, nothing more than feelings, whoa, whoa, whoa, feelings..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,085 #325 May 5 16 hours ago, richravizza said: I suppose your fallacies, strawman,whataboutisms, gaslighting and innuendos are par for those living a luxury belief system. You got all the talking points in there, eh? Ten points to Ravizzador for copying FOX News! And if belief in the Constitution is a "luxury belief system" - you bet! I greatly prefer it to the fascist "economy" belief system we see from the right these days. No rights unless you're white and straight, and have no tattos. Quote Harris Biden the Dems and the Left's utopian dream of Citizenship and a Border is your crisis. To you and her credit, we may go unburdened by what has been. It's so great that Trump is in power, both houses of Congress are republican and the court is conservative - and you can STILL be a victim of the mean n evil lefties! A true maestro of victimhood. I can understand why; no one in their right mind would want any part of the republican dumpster fire today. Quote Ya, because the 100,000 overdose death are because of republican policies,eh? Yes. Cutting mental health funding, cutting medical care for addicts and cutting drug support programs will do that. Early in the year, Trump cut ~$11.4 billion in grants for addiction and mental health programs. FAFO as they say. Quote We should assume the cesspool of SanFran and LA are GOPs fault too Most dangerous cities in the US: Memphis St Louis Detroit Birmingham Little Rock New Orleans Kansas City Myrtle Beach Much rather live in LA or SF than those places. You would, too, if you could see beyond your partisan blinders. Quote and Soros good I could care less about Soros. But he must be doing something right; he's lived rent-free in your mind for years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites