Orange1 0 #1 January 13, 2006 If you do this, how long does it take for the reserve to get into normal flight? I realise this will be canopy-dependent to an extent, but would it be almost immediate or would you lose a couple/few hundred feet? (obviously assuming a clean cutaway)Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liemberg 0 #2 January 13, 2006 Ask in the CRW forum. They do it for fun. (i.e. build a stack, transition to side by side, grab each others foot, hold firmly, transition to downplane... I got scared at 500ft... on another occasion it broke up earlier and I was left with a tight grip on someone else's shoe... Your mileage may vary....) "Whoever in discussion adduces authority uses not intellect but memory." - Leonardo da Vinci A thousand words... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #3 January 13, 2006 QuoteIf you do this, how long does it take for the reserve to get into normal flight? I realise this will be canopy-dependent to an extent, but would it be almost immediate or would you lose a couple/few hundred feet? (obviously assuming a clean cutaway) Depends a bunch on canopy. I have done downplanes to ~200 feet before...The landing was like a hookturn."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperconway 0 #4 January 14, 2006 QuoteIf you do this, how long does it take for the reserve to get into normal flight? I realise this will be canopy-dependent to an extent, but would it be almost immediate or would you lose a couple/few hundred feet? (obviously assuming a clean cutaway) I assume you are talking about a 2 out downplane? As in the incidents, probly less than 100'. Unstow brakes and prepre to flare! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyL 0 #5 January 14, 2006 This is from a CRW dog. As you release from dowmplane, kick off one shoe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyL 0 #6 January 14, 2006 As a CRW dog who has performed many downplanes I feel very prepared for 2 out scenario if they were able to downplane. Prior to cutting away i'll make certain that there is atleast one canopies width of airspace between the two, kick off a shoe, cutaway, get reserve toggles, unstow brakes if i'm above 50 feet, prepare to flare, flare, land safely. Find freebag and main, inspect and pack and be on the next load. Have a cold beer after sunset load. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WILDBILLAQR 0 #7 January 14, 2006 I'm going to add that to the FJC tommow, "In a downplane, kick off one shoe and go to EP's"---------------------------------------------- "Thats not smoke, thats BUCKEYE!!" AQR#3,CWR#49 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyL 0 #8 January 14, 2006 Perfect timing to kick off shoe is as the canopies separate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NelKel 0 #9 January 14, 2006 Which foot? right, or left?_________________________________________ Someone dies, someone says how stupid, someone says it was avoidable, someone says how to avoid it, someone calls them an idiot, someone proposes rule chan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyL 0 #10 January 14, 2006 One will know once separating from downplane Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyL 0 #11 January 14, 2006 Ever seen CRW dogs separate from a downplane? Usually a shoe flies off as the separation occurs! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NelKel 0 #12 January 14, 2006 Oh, ha ha I get it you guy are talking about an intentional downplane with two crw jumpers. Thats why I was confused, the original poster was asking about a two out downplane. _________________________________________ Someone dies, someone says how stupid, someone says it was avoidable, someone says how to avoid it, someone calls them an idiot, someone proposes rule chan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyL 0 #13 January 14, 2006 Hence kicking off shoe. (2 out)Have had this conversation many times with jumpers. How do you become prepared physically? How do the parachutes react? What to do/not to do? Etc... Have visited w/ instructors,crw dogs. Being that ground training is somewhat hypothetical, performing CRW 2 stack/biplane/side by side/downplane is learning how 2 canopies fly similar to 2 out, physically. Dangerous , yes. Have you ever wondered yourself, what you'd do w/2 out? The scenarios? Ever done CRW/downplane? If you have done intentional downplane, do you feel better skilled and prepared for incidental 2 out? I do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites