This is Not Looking Pretty

[JerryBaumchen 1,451]

Hi folks,

IMO this is a direct result of our breeding ourselves into oblivion:  For the first time in human history, we are pushing the global water cycle out of balance

Global water cycle off balance for ‘first time in human history,’ threatening half the planet’s food production (msn.com)

While I will not be around to suffer from it; it is possible that my grandchildren will.

Thoughts?

Jerry Baumchen

[nigel99 589]

11 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

IMO this is a direct result of our breeding ourselves into oblivion:  For the first time in human history, we are pushing the global water cycle out of balance

Global water cycle off balance for ‘first time in human history,’ threatening half the planet’s food production (msn.com)

While I will not be around to suffer from it; it is possible that my grandchildren will.

Thoughts?

Jerry Baumchen

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-18/coca-cola-karagullen-groundwater-explainer/103862298

Unfortunately business and their cosy relationship with politicians exacerbate the problem. This scandal blew up locally a few months ago. 

It makes me wonder what the outcome of severe water shortages would be in major cities. 

I think there is lots we can do to help at a personal level. I’ve got a swimming pool that is barely used and consumes thousands of litres a year. Grey water use in gardens, rain water tanks and generally being conservation minded all add up.

Edited October 19, 2024 by nigel99

[JerryBaumchen 1,451]

14 hours ago, nigel99 said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-18/coca-cola-karagullen-groundwater-explainer/103862298

Unfortunately business and their cosy relationship with politicians exacerbate the problem. This scandal blew up locally a few months ago. 

It makes me wonder what the outcome of severe water shortages would be in major cities. 

I think there is lots we can do to help at a personal level. I’ve got a swimming pool that is barely used and consumes thousands of litres a year. Grey water use in gardens, rain water tanks and generally being conservation minded all add up.

Hi Nigel,

Re: It makes me wonder what the outcome of severe water shortages would be in major cities.

My understanding is that an adult human can go about 30 days without food; and, about 3-4 days without water.

Re:  Unfortunately business and their cosy relationship with politicians exacerbate the problem.

Nothing new in that.

Re:  I think there is lots we can do to help at a personal level.

But, would it actually make a difference?

IMO the solutions need to be on a global scale if humanity is to survive.  I am doubtful.

Jerry Baumchen

[Phil1111 1,149]

Water levels in many of the rivers in the Amazon basin have reached their lowest on record amid a continuing drought, the Brazilian Geological Service (SGB) says.

Drought will leave to more migration from Africa and S. America

[johnhking1 100]

2 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

IMO the solutions need to be on a global scale if humanity is to survive. 

I think humans will survive for a while but humanity is questionable.

[tkhayes 348]

On 10/18/2024 at 1:49 PM, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

IMO this is a direct result of our breeding ourselves into oblivion:  For the first time in human history, we are pushing the global water cycle out of balance

Global water cycle off balance for ‘first time in human history,’ threatening half the planet’s food production (msn.com)

While I will not be around to suffer from it; it is possible that my grandchildren will.

Thoughts?

Jerry Baumchen

Zephyrhills, the City of Pure Water, ran out of water last year. https://www.wusf.org/economy-business/2023-09-15/zephyrhills-brakes-growth-battles-water-woes

800 people per day are still moving to Florida

[billvon 3,090]

1 hour ago, tkhayes said:

800 people per day are still moving to Florida

Will be fun when rising sea levels push seawater into the aquifers there.

 

[Phil1111 1,149]

28 minutes ago, billvon said:

Will be fun when rising sea levels push seawater into the aquifers there.

 

Do you think Floridians will have to start wanting regular hurricanes?

[JoeWeber 2,872]

6 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

Do you think Floridians will have to start wanting regular hurricanes?

Absolutely, but unless they ask nicely I say let them suck sticks.

[tkhayes 348]

21 hours ago, billvon said:

Will be fun when rising sea levels push seawater into the aquifers there.

 

that has been happening for years.Tell Me About: Saltwater Intrusion in Florida – Thompson Earth Systems Institute (ufl.edu)

[JerryBaumchen 1,451]

On 10/19/2024 at 3:54 PM, tkhayes said:

Zephyrhills, the City of Pure Water, ran out of water last year. https://www.wusf.org/economy-business/2023-09-15/zephyrhills-brakes-growth-battles-water-woes

800 people per day are still moving to Florida

Hi tk,

Re:  800 people per day are still moving to Florida

As I said earlier:  breeding ourselves into oblivion

Jerry Baumchen

[SkyDekker 1,465]

On 10/19/2024 at 3:08 PM, Phil1111 said:

Water levels in many of the rivers in the Amazon basin have reached their lowest on record amid a continuing drought, the Brazilian Geological Service (SGB) says.

Drought will leave to more migration from Africa and S. America

We'll just make Mexico pay for water.

[Phil1111 1,149]

21 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi tk,

Re:  800 people per day are still moving to Florida

As I said earlier:  breeding ourselves into oblivion

Jerry Baumchen

Well people like yourself are not helping the US political situation. Educated liberals are having less children than ignorant republicans and trump loves that.

"President Trump did better in counties with higher birth rates, and the difference is fairly large, with the most pro-Biden counties having total fertility rates almost 25% lower than the most pro-Trump counties."

[billvon 3,090]

23 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Well people like yourself are not helping the US political situation. Educated liberals are having less children than ignorant republicans and trump loves that.

They made a movie about that.

[riggerrob 643]

Back when I moved to California - in 1992 - I read a thick book called "Cadillac Desert"' 'which spelled out the folly of Colorado River water rationing. The start of the problem was issuing more "water rights" than there were gallons in the river .... it got worse from there.

After 6 years, I concluded that it was foolish for white men - like me - to live in a desert. Now I live in a rain forest ... er ... rain forest 6 months out of the year. It is raining cats and dogs today.

[billvon 3,090]

3 minutes ago, riggerrob said:

Back when I moved to California - in 1992 - I read a thick book called "Cadillac Desert"' 'which spelled out the folly of Colorado River water rationing

Yeah I read that too.  A good book for anyone who thinks there's a simple solution to the problem (like "just turn a very large faucet. And you turn the faucet and it takes one day to turn it, it’s massive.")

[wmw999 2,560]

And a NET 210 people a day are moving to Arizona. It doesn’t even have an ocean to desalinate.

Wendy P. 

[nigel99 589]

7 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

And a NET 210 people a day are moving to Arizona. It doesn’t even have an ocean to desalinate.

Wendy P. 

Wendy for Trump? Stop the migrants 

[wmw999 2,560]

Those are good god-gratin’ murricans I’m talking about!

Wendy P. 

[brenthutch 444]

On 10/18/2024 at 1:49 PM, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

IMO this is a direct result of our breeding ourselves into oblivion:  For the first time in human history, we are pushing the global water cycle out of balance

Global water cycle off balance for ‘first time in human history,’ threatening half the planet’s food production (msn.com)

While I will not be around to suffer from it; it is possible that my grandchildren will.

Thoughts?

Jerry Baumchen

How about nothingburger, global population is stabilized and on the verge of decline. Asia, Europe and the Americas are in demographic decline. Africa is the only continent with positive population growth. Thanks to global warming more water has been liberated from its icy prison and is now available to support global life.

[wmw999 2,560]

9 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

How about nothingburger, global population is stabilized and on the verge of decline. Asia, Europe and the Americas are in demographic decline. Africa is the only continent with positive population growth. Thanks to global warming more water has been liberated from its icy prison and is now available to support global life.

But in the US at least, that new life doesn’t want to live where the water is; they like their deserts and quasi-monsoon climates. Of course, it’s expensive to build infrastructure to store too much water, or heaven forbid negotiate fairly for it.

Naw, there’s all that ocean, and we can always desalinate. Someone will pick up the cost

Wendy P. 

[brenthutch 444]

5 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

But in the US at least, that new life doesn’t want to live where the water is; they like their deserts and quasi-monsoon climates. Of course, it’s expensive to build infrastructure to store too much water, or heaven forbid negotiate fairly for it.

Naw, there’s all that ocean, and we can always desalinate. Someone will pick up the cost

Wendy P. 

No Wendy, wrong as usual, bless your heart. Folks are flocking to the south in droves, heading to warmer climates in Texas and Florida and leaving Illinois and New York 

[billvon 3,090]

3 hours ago, brenthutch said:

Thanks to global warming more water has been liberated from its icy prison and is now available to support global life.

And thanks to illegal immigration, more people have been liberated for oppressive regimes and are now available to support a stronger US economy!

You make an excellent argument for illegal immigration.

[olofscience 490]

10 hours ago, brenthutch said:

How about nothingburger

I know I either won't get an answer to this or a completely ridiculous one, but I want to narrow it down.

What's your criteria for something to happen? Could you give an example?

Edited October 24, 2024 by olofscience

[wmw999 2,560]

12 hours ago, brenthutch said:

No Wendy, wrong as usual, bless your heart. Folks are flocking to the south in droves, heading to warmer climates in Texas and Florida and leaving Illinois and New York 

Interesting you left the part out about how people are migrating to Arizona (with no water). Isn't it in the south?

Wendy P.