The Israeli Pager attack

[Phil1111 1,260]

2 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Also a great strategy if Armageddon is your goal....

 

15 minutes ago, jaybird18c said:

What do you know about war?

He knows that the GOP is at war with the constitution and democracy.

I think it was Joe who said "“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Edited October 15, 2024 by Phil1111

[jaybird18c 29]

2 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

 

He knows that the GOP is at war with the constitution and democracy.

I think it was Joe who said "“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

What do you know about war? 

[JoeWeber 3,021]

1 hour ago, jaybird18c said:

What do you know about war?

My knowledge of war is formed in the exact manner as your knowledge of Jesus Christ; it is born of what I have heard, been taught, from what I have read and then filtered through my personal reasoning faculties. Please take this opportunity to tell me that consequently I can’t know jack shit about it and I should just shut the fuck up.

[winsor 236]

6 hours ago, jaybird18c said:

What do you know about war?

'Politics by other means,' according to Clasewitz.

[riggerrob 644]

On 10/15/2024 at 3:42 AM, JoeWeber said:

Also a great strategy if Armageddon is your goal. People wonder why Christians love Trump and fear not the destruction of democracy, but it’s not a mystery. They already bow to a king so the idea of an authoritarian or autocracy or another prince or two in the middle is hardly an impediment to the desired end goal: the end of humanity. We atheists aren’t extremists like you regardless of your attempt at an analogy. We want it all to thrive and continue. You don’t.

Most of us atheists, agnostics and skeptics have seen too many false prophets.

Even mainstream Muslims will tell you that Hams, Hezbollah, al Queda, Muslim Brotherhood, Taliban, Boko Haram, etc. are not true Muslims because they follow false prophets.

Other Muslims will tell you that the oil-rich Gulf States follow false profits (pun intended).

We don't even need to go into the Shia/Suuni schism to see false prophets.

See the book "The Unit" by Adam Gamal.

[richravizza 30]

  LOL, humor.. Phil, But a great quote nonetheless, the other one that is LOL 

On 10/15/2024 at 6:25 AM, Phil1111 said:

He knows that the GOP is at war with the constitution and democracy

  Bummer we devolved to the division of politic, god/religion bashing and armageddon.LOL

How about some more humor this time with truth.

  Remove all the arms from Israel's enemies and we would have Peace.Remove the arms from the State of Israel.... there will be no Israel. 

  A pessimist Israeli Jew says to his optimist brother, " Oh,things are so terrible." His brother replies "Ya! .... but it can get a whole lot worse. LOL

 

[richravizza 30]

On 10/15/2024 at 6:28 AM, jaybird18c said:

What do you know about war? 

  Red Storm Rising was a great read while serving in the Fulda Gap,might be dated for you,but I'm sure you can appreciate a few similarities in Israel's strategy.  Many moons ago I found this new "playbook, of the future" of how it was going to go down. In my exuberance to tell folks we were going to Win. We Were  going to preserve freedom, liberty and democracy, the locals very way of life. After a beer or two,I said the word "War" without a thought or a care and ended up disrespecting my local hosts Father,not good.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

On 10/16/2024 at 7:52 PM, richravizza said:

Remove all the arms from Israel's enemies and we would have Peace.

People can't be that naïve can they? I mean, this might be one of the most stupid things I've ever read on here.

[billvon 3,170]

9 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

People can't be that naïve can they?

Of course they can be.  I mean, Trump supporters think you can nuke hurricanes and redirect them with a Sharpie.  They believe in windmill cancer, that climate change is a Chinese hoax, that magnets don't work underwater and that only Trump can stop terrorism.

If you give them a good enough reason to believe any sort of nonsense they will.

[nigel99 682]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxensYM2R40

Here’s an interesting view from Dr Gabor Mate, if you don’t know him he’s jewish and had family killed in the holocaust.

[jakee 1,645]

On 9/18/2024 at 7:37 PM, billvon said:

Neither is ignoring it, or just writing a sternly worded letter whenever they kidnap/kill Israeli civilians.  There are no good options.  They are trying to choose the least bad of those options.  They often get it wrong, but to their credit they do (often) try,

Just out of curiosity, would you still generally say that the IDF is in the habit of choosing the least bad options? 

[Phil1111 1,260]

2 hours ago, jakee said:

Just out of curiosity, would you still generally say that the IDF is in the habit of choosing the least bad options? 

More properly it would be Netanyahu or the Mossad. IDF members have been against many of the recent actions directed by the far right nutjobs of the current government.

[jakee 1,645]

57 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

More properly it would be Netanyahu or the Mossad. IDF members have been against many of the recent actions directed by the far right nutjobs of the current government.

How many are against it, and how many are either in favour or don't care? IDF members have done things like kill ambulance crews in order to set an ambush that will draw in more ambulance crews to kill. IDF members have used drones to follow doctors home to their families after work then sent in strikes to kill everyone in the building. IDF members do things like this: Establishing an invisible “security perimeter” then shooting civilians who cross it has become common practice in Gaza, Israeli soldiers have testified.  When asked how his squad decided whether to shoot unarmed Palestinians, Raab said: “Its a question of distance. There is a line that we define. They don’t know where this line is, but we do.”

 

It's absolutely brilliant that some people in the IDF might be hesitating to join in the latest round of atrocities - but as yet is it making any difference whatsoever to any resident of Gaza?

[nigel99 682]

6 hours ago, jakee said:

Just out of curiosity, would you still generally say that the IDF is in the habit of choosing the least bad options? 

Israel is way out of line. It’s going to be interesting to see Don’s reaction to the Doha attacks. I wonder how much sympathy and support a 747 buys you?