putting bag into container??

[roscoep 0]

when you FINALLY have the canopy in the deployment bag and all the stows completed, and the bag goes into the rig, do the lines face the bottom of the container, or the back of the container?? saw it done both ways by two people more experienced than I. I didn't say anything to either, as at my level, I don't really know jack shit yet.

[darkwing 5]

It is vital you do it the way the container manufacturer recommends. contact the mfr. Ignore anyone else (except me)

-- Jeff
My Skydiving History

[roscoep 0]

ok, just for arguments sake, with over 2000 jumps, how do YOU do it?

[meltdown 0]

I've got a Javelin, and me and my sorry 350 jumps put the lines at the bottom. I took the Brian Germain canopy class and he showed us another way, I think it was lines to the back. He had a good reason for it, but I still do it the way I was taught. I've only had line twists twice in 350 jumps, so it seems to work. But like the previous poster said, you should probably check with the manufacturer.

[jumperconway 0]

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when you FINALLY have the canopy in the deployment bag and all the stows completed, and the bag goes into the rig, do the lines face the bottom of the container, or the back of the container?? saw it done both ways by two people more experienced than I. I didn't say anything to either, as at my level, I don't really know jack shit yet.

The lines coming directly of the connector links of the risers should go straight to the bottom of the container away from the corners of the reserve container. There is a slight chance that the lines can snag and damage the reserve container itself. As a new jumper I packed placing the lines directly around the bottom of the reserve before learning differently without a problem thoough. I think some containers are more succeptible than others. The Aerodyne container advertises specific protectors for this as I believe has been standard fare on one of the french rigs for a while. As was said before, check with the manufacturer of your specific rig!

[Icon134 0]

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ok, just for arguments sake, with over 2000 jumps, how do YOU do it?

I imagine he does it however the manufacture recommends.

his statement is probably based on the fact that container systems are designed to be packed in certain ways... that's not to say that you won't have a successful deployment if you do it some other way...

Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife...

[roscoep 0]

ok, i'll make this even simpler. After seeing this, I have a Jav Odyssey. I've been putting the bag with the lines facing the bottom of the container, NOT the back of the container. Anyone disagree? or otherwise have input. Thanks

[riggerrob 643]

The Javelin manual (and most other manuals) say to pack lines towards the BOC (main bottom flap).

A few manufacturers (i.e. Wings) say that it is okay to pack with lines towards the backpack (pack tray).
Wings even says that their smaller containers can be packed either way.
Birdman instructors say to pack with lines against the pack tray, because it helps reduce line twists.

It really depends upon the side profile of the main deployment bag. If it is almost "square" then it makes little difference which way you turn the d-bag.

In the end, defer to the manual for your rig, or phone the manufacturer.

[diablopilot 2]

Follow the manufacturers instructions. DO NOT take advice from jumpers who don't on this till you have alot more experience, time, and knowlage about gear.

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You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

[roscoep 0]

thanks to all. SunPath recommends towards the bottom, so that's the way i'll be doing mine.

[kelpdiver 2]

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The Javelin manual (and most other manuals) say to pack lines towards the BOC (main bottom flap).

Thanks for phrasing it that way. "Top" and "bottom" are very fuzzy words in this conversation.

[Travman 6]

Generally the lines go in facing the bottom of the container (BOC flap). Some birdman pack with the lines to the back of the container. Some Voodoo owners pack with the lines to the top, below the reserve container due to its very small bottom flap.

[MB38 0]

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thanks to all. SunPath recommends towards the bottom, so that's the way i'll be doing mine.

Have you taken a packing class?

I really don't know what I'm talking about.

[johnny1488 1]

As was said follow the manufacturers instructions.

That being said I had a nice conversation with a engineer at one of the major rig manufacturers about what heppens when you dont rotate the bag (in most cases).

Rotating the bag restricts the bag from getting yanked out with all the force the p/c has to offer. He had pictures of a dbag not rotated that was basicly a u with all the linestows now very slack. The rotation of the bag slows down the initial jerk just enough to keep the bag distortion to a minimum.

Johnny
--"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!"
Mike Rome

[JENNR8R 0]

Is this discussion talking about the stowed lines or the excess lines that aren't stowed?

I've seen people put the excess lines in the bottom of the backpack (pack tray) or against the BOC (main bottom flap). Which is correct?

What do you call a beautiful, sunny day that comes after two cloudy, rainy
ones? -- Monday.

[justinb138 0]

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Which is correct?

Whichever one the manufacturer of your rig says to use.