Ukraine still matters

[BIGUN 1,500]

Zelenskyy: So you want me to surrender and give up part of our land?

Trump: Well, yeah and I might get a peace prize. Have you read my book, "Art of the Deal?"

[dogyks 18]

On 6/5/2025 at 4:34 AM, kallend said:

I wonder how a "Golden Dome" would fare against a cheap drone swarm attack.

As luck would have it, our CIC is given to gold plating, which uses orders of magnitudes less than solid gold.

In any event, it turns out that clay pigeon techniques are much more effective than using anyone's missiles against small drones.

Having been around military grade ordinance going bang, I am leery of touching off one of these gizmos within 100 m.  What teevee fails to convey is that, even if it doesn't kill you, the shock can result in permanent changes in one's physiology.

[dogyks 18]

9 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

Zelenskyy: So you want me to surrender and give up part of our land?

Trump: Well, yeah and I might get a peace prize. Have you read my book, "Art of the Deal?"

Zelinakyy should offer California instead.  

[kallend 2,174]

1 hour ago, dogyks said:

Zelinakyy should offer California instead.  

I was thinking Texas.  They want to secede anyway.

[dogyks 18]

56 minutes ago, kallend said:

I was thinking Texas.  They want to secede anyway.

Alaska has been suggested.

[JerryBaumchen 1,471]

3 hours ago, dogyks said:

Zelinakyy should offer California instead.  

Hi dogyks,

Been done:  At Last!!!!!!! - Speakers Corner - Skydiveforum.com

Jerry Baumchen

[dogyks 18]

2 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi dogyks,

Been done:  At Last!!!!!!! - Speakers Corner - Skydiveforum.com

Jerry Baumchen

I think Zelinskyy should agree to the deal Putin signed in, what, 2003? 

If Putin doesn't go for it, it should be pointed out that, if that agreement can't be trusted, what's the point of any further agreements?

If you reserve the right to be a lying piece of shit, how can you hold anyone else to their word?

Edited Tuesday at 07:30 PM by dogyks

[Phil1111 1,192]

Ukraine Diplomacy Reveals How Un-American Trump Is by Thomas L. Friedman NYT editorial.

An excellent piece that covers most of the bases. I laughed when he mentioned all the "thank-you"s directed at Trump. All of the appeasement and flattery to shield the ego of the man-child.

Today the Kremlin signalled that NO direct meeting between Putin and Zelensky is either planned or anticipated. 

"During an interview with state-controlled TV channel Rossiya-24 on Tuesday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Moscow does not refuse talks with Ukraine — but, crucially, insisted any summit would have to be prepared “step by step, gradually, starting from the expert level and then going through all the necessary stages.”

Russia’s calibrated language follows a familiar pattern: agree in principle, stall in practice. A similar dynamic played out in May, when Putin suggested a Russian meeting with Zelenskyy for peace talks, only to send a second-tier delegation instead."

Meanwhile Trump's deadlines, sanctions, etc. have all gone TACO. His Alaska coming out party for the indicted war criminal and kidnapper of 20,000 Ukrainian children, a flop. Another example of the moral bankruptcy of the republican party.