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[jakee 1,605]

1 hour ago, dogyks said:

But hey, maybe This Time It's Different ©!

Well yes, that is indeed what you're betting on by voting for Trump - the hope that maybe this time will be different from last time. But why?

Edited Thursday at 09:17 PM by jakee

[JerryBaumchen 1,471]

Hi folks,

Trump is nothing but a kid in a playground:  Donald Trump to patrol Washington DC streets with police, military amid federal crackdown on crime

Think they'll stop for donuts?

Jerry Baumchen

[JoeWeber 2,966]

Just now, dogyks said:

I dunno, it seems a tad steep.  The vigorish alone on that kind of overspending is more than we have shown the ability to cover.

But hey, maybe This Time It's Different ©!

I agree with you that the deficit is a severe problem. I am not as certain that it is a present problem, in human life time terms that is. What I don't get is how you can blame Democrats for increasing the deficit, which they do, in amounts greater than Republicans.

I agree with you that we are too woke as it's called. I don't agree that because we do dumb things in pursuit of fairness for all that the basic idea is wrong. In that area I'd rather err on the side of woke especially given that the actual cost to the rest of us is so low.

[dogyks 16]

40 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

I agree with you that the deficit is a severe problem. I am not as certain that it is a present problem, in human life time terms that is. What I don't get is how you can blame Democrats for increasing the deficit, which they do, in amounts greater than Republicans.

I agree with you that we are too woke as it's called. I don't agree that because we do dumb things in pursuit of fairness for all that the basic idea is wrong. In that area I'd rather err on the side of woke especially given that the actual cost to the rest of us is so low.

I don't blame one side or or another for the deficit though, as John pointed out, the Republicans (Trump in particular), have done more than their share of racking it up.

One of my objections to things Woke is the double standard by which there is 'good' and 'bad' discrimination.  A level playing field favors a 6'10" male at the peak of his game over a 4'10" female of any description, and to have quotas for short women is insane.

As Jim Webb pointed out regarding 'incusive' training standards, preparing by touch football rules is all well and good, but doesn't do much if you're going up against the Green Bay Packers.

I have worked in places where race, sex or sexual preference had precisely nothing to do with who was in what role, and I have been spoiled by that standard.  If someone was incompetent, they didn't get a pass one way or another.

Admitted, Trump is a contemptible piece of shit at the best of times, but if the difference between him and the competition is the supposed commitment to merit as opposed to institutionalized discrimination in the form of DEI/Woke, I'll stifle the gag reflex and vote against his opponent.

As far as the deficit goes, we'd have to take an approach akin to that of Javier Milei, which would have required Musk's further participation.

As it stands, the economy is way fucked and is on borrowed time.

[JoeWeber 2,966]

39 minutes ago, dogyks said:

I don't blame one side or or another for the deficit though, as John pointed out, the Republicans (Trump in particular), have done more than their share of racking it up.

One of my objections to things Woke is the double standard by which there is 'good' and 'bad' discrimination.  A level playing field favors a 6'10" male at the peak of his game over a 4'10" female of any description, and to have quotas for short women is insane.

As Jim Webb pointed out regarding 'incusive' training standards, preparing by touch football rules is all well and good, but doesn't do much if you're going up against the Green Bay Packers.

I have worked in places where race, sex or sexual preference had precisely nothing to do with who was in what role, and I have been spoiled by that standard.  If someone was incompetent, they didn't get a pass one way or another.

Admitted, Trump is a contemptible piece of shit at the best of times, but if the difference between him and the competition is the supposed commitment to merit as opposed to institutionalized discrimination in the form of DEI/Woke, I'll stifle the gag reflex and vote against his opponent.

As far as the deficit goes, we'd have to take an approach akin to that of Javier Milei, which would have required Musk's further participation.

As it stands, the economy is way fucked and is on borrowed time.

In which sport are 4’10” females of any color taken over 6’10” males at the peak of their game? Is tunnel ratting a sport?

[dogyks 16]

Sorry, basketball.  It's only fair.

[JoeWeber 2,966]

Just now, dogyks said:

Sorry, basketball.  It's only fair.

Did Simone Biles sign with the Warriors? 

[nigel99 641]

2 hours ago, dogyks said:

I don't blame one side or or another for the deficit though, as John pointed out, the Republicans (Trump in particular), have done more than their share of racking it up.

One of my objections to things Woke is the double standard by which there is 'good' and 'bad' discrimination.  A level playing field favors a 6'10" male at the peak of his game over a 4'10" female of any description, and to have quotas for short women is insane.

As Jim Webb pointed out regarding 'incusive' training standards, preparing by touch football rules is all well and good, but doesn't do much if you're going up against the Green Bay Packers.

I have worked in places where race, sex or sexual preference had precisely nothing to do with who was in what role, and I have been spoiled by that standard.  If someone was incompetent, they didn't get a pass one way or another.

Admitted, Trump is a contemptible piece of shit at the best of times, but if the difference between him and the competition is the supposed commitment to merit as opposed to institutionalized discrimination in the form of DEI/Woke, I'll stifle the gag reflex and vote against his opponent.

As far as the deficit goes, we'd have to take an approach akin to that of Javier Milei, which would have required Musk's further participation.

As it stands, the economy is way fucked and is on borrowed time.

Yet your “un woke” hero is on a war that anything remotely uncomfortable must be removed. Slavery in museums, words they don’t like, comedians they don’t like, war hero’s they don’t like. Sorry but your position is indefensible.

There’s nothing wrong with being against Harris for her policies. Keith has articulated his argument quite clearly without having to defend Trump and hide behind fig leaves. 

It sounds like you’re happily going to vote for Trump in 2028, because your lord and saviour is anointed by god to overturn the constitution that others hold dear.

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59 minutes ago, nigel99 said:

Yet your “un woke” hero is on a war that anything remotely uncomfortable must be removed. Slavery in museums, words they don’t like, comedians they don’t like, war hero’s they don’t like. Sorry but your position is indefensible.

There’s nothing wrong with being against Harris for her policies. Keith has articulated his argument quite clearly without having to defend Trump and hide behind fig leaves. 

It sounds like you’re happily going to vote for Trump in 2028, because your lord and saviour is anointed by god to overturn the constitution that others hold dear.

Try Reading Comprehension 101.  It will do you wonders.

[jakee 1,605]

7 hours ago, dogyks said:

One of my objections to things Woke is the double standard by which there is 'good' and 'bad' discrimination.  A level playing field favors a 6'10" male at the peak of his game over a 4'10" female of any description, and to have quotas for short women is insane.

It is indeed INSANE to suggest that any sport in which being a 6’10” man is an advantage has been made to implement quotas for 4’10” women because of woke. Why do you believe insane things? 
 

7 hours ago, dogyks said:

Admitted, Trump is a contemptible piece of shit at the best of times, but if the difference between him and the competition is the supposed commitment to merit as opposed to institutionalized discrimination in the form of DEI/Woke, I'll stifle the gag reflex and vote against his opponent.

And yet, as with the deficit he is exploding, Trump is responsible for the biggest rollout of forced DEI programs in the history of the US government. Except he wants to force universities to hire quotas of white republicans, which you’re obviously fine with. It’s only the DEI which means you might have to interact with more black people that’s a problem.

7 hours ago, dogyks said:

As far as the deficit goes, we'd have to take an approach akin to that of Javier Milei, which would have required Musk's further participation.

I fail to see how Musk funnelling hundreds of billions of dollars of government contracts into his own companies despite offering significantly less efficient solutions than the competition is going to solve the deficit.

It’s amazing how willing you are to swallow anything your heroes tell you without applying an ounce of critical thinking.

[nigel99 641]

55 minutes ago, jakee said:

It is indeed INSANE to suggest that any sport in which being a 6’10” man is an advantage has been made to implement quotas for 4’10” women because of woke. Why do you believe insane things? 
 

And yet, as with the deficit he is exploding, Trump is responsible for the biggest rollout of forced DEI programs in the history of the US government. Except he wants to force universities to hire quotas of white republicans, which you’re obviously fine with. It’s only the DEI which means you might have to interact with more black people that’s a problem.

I fail to see how Musk funnelling hundreds of billions of dollars of government contracts into his own companies despite offering significantly less efficient solutions than the competition is going to solve the deficit.

It’s amazing how willing you are to swallow anything your heroes tell you without applying an ounce of critical thinking.

If you suspend belief and rationalise enough it makes sense I guess? Trump is the biggest snowflake out there and whitewashing history, yet his true believers think he’s a hero. 

[thelivo 20]

17 hours ago, dogyks said:

I should clarify the basis of my selection.

The national debt is over a third of a million dollars per taxpayer and rising.  This is unsustainable, and we are flat guaranted to default in the forseeable future.

Any politician that attempts to proceed with only minor tweaks to the status quo is thereby committed to the collapse of our economy.  The fact that some politicians are focused on Woke stupidity instead of the nuts and bolts of our economy suggests that they rely on distraction to avoid addressing the fundamentals.  It's like a physician that wants to treat an ingrown toenail instead of stage 4 cancer.

The only person who ran on the basis of disruption is Capatain Chaos himself.  The fact that Elon Musk had a say in the first 100 days was heartening.  Musk has his faults, to say the least, but he does have a knack for actually turning a profit where others fail.  Trump is a gonif, but at least his self-interest may coincide with that of the U.S. to some extent.

As far as illegal immigrants go, I can't imagine why we should welcome whoever sees fit to cross the border because their home country has been rendered unliveable.  The historical record shows a long list of peoples who destroyed one locale and then set forth to 'fix' somewhere new.  The Puritans come to mind.

Making DEI a factor in much of anything is absurd.  If considering race or sexuality or whatever is off the table, fine.  If someone wants to make a big deal of it, they can do so on their own time.

Do I like Trump?  Not even slightly.  His only saving grace is in keeping the likes of Harris and Walz out of office.  If DEI and illegal alieans can be removed from the equation, that's great.  If he can be kept from fucking things up in Ukraine and Israel, that's even better.

Hopefully we can get someone in that is posessed of equal parts of competence and integrity, but I'm not holding my breath.

And unfortunately folks, this level of stupidity and lack of awareness is the reason the US is now a laughing stock.

[jakee 1,605]

3 hours ago, nigel99 said:

If you suspend belief and rationalise enough it makes sense I guess? 

Yes indeed. It’s just ironic that Winsor so desperately wants to come across as an intellectual yet has the least interest in actually understanding anything of any regular contributor to this forum. Like his take on German politics is as if he walked into an upmarket neo-Nazi meeting (you know like the ones Peter Thiel goes too) and blindly believed the first thing someone told him about how Hitler came to power.
 

Even Rich Ravizza is more capable of saying something original and unexpected than Winsor the MAGA parrot.

[kallend 2,174]

On 8/21/2025 at 5:28 AM, dogyks said:

All true, but still an improvement over Harris, Biden or Clinton.

 

You have zero evidence that this is correct.

Again, given your preoccupation with the debt, all the evidence is to the contrary.

And on any scale of decency, all are preferable to Trump.

[dogyks 16]

9 minutes ago, kallend said:

You have zero evidence that this is correct.

Again, given your preoccupation with the debt, all the evidence is to the contrary.

And on any scale of decency, all are preferable to Trump.

I agree that he sucks out loud, but the opposition panders to racism, sexism and discrimination (all for the noblest of reasons) and he's too busy being a scumbag to be bothered.

[normiss 903]

1 minute ago, dogyks said:

I agree that he sucks out loud, but the opposition panders to racism, sexism and discrimination (all for the noblest of reasons) and he's too busy being a scumbag to be bothered.

Wow.

Rather accurate description. Of Trump.

Yet you chose to avoid the titles of pedophile, rapist, pedophile rapist, thief, insurrectionist, fraud, liar, felon, criminal, racist, cheat, grifter, abusive spouse, possible espionage, and I'm leaving out numerous earned titles because of your insane and unsupportable position on the current insanity in American politics.

Add to that the recent acknowledgement on the red carpet reception of a war criminal by the Rapist in Chief. International relations is yet another thing The Felon is woefully unqualified at.

[jakee 1,605]

11 minutes ago, dogyks said:

I agree that he sucks out loud, but the opposition panders to racism, sexism and discrimination (all for the noblest of reasons) and he's too busy being a scumbag to be bothered.

In looking glass land, yeah. Meanwhile here on earth, you’re just lying.

[dogyks 16]

22 minutes ago, normiss said:

Wow.

Rather accurate description. Of Trump.

Yet you chose to avoid the titles of pedophile, rapist, pedophile rapist, thief, insurrectionist, fraud, liar, felon, criminal, racist, cheat, grifter, abusive spouse, possible espionage, and I'm leaving out numerous earned titles because of your insane and unsupportable position on the current insanity in American politics.

Add to that the recent acknowledgement on the red carpet reception of a war criminal by the Rapist in Chief. International relations is yet another thing The Felon is woefully unqualified at.

So he's a narcissistic sociopath.  What else is new?

Kennedy would and did fuck anything that moved,  kept us in Vietnam to get through the 1964 elections, and was the scion of a criminal family that would make the Gambinos proud.

LBJ was truly evil across the board, and his indiscretions were a given.

Bill Clinton, like JFK, would fuck anything that moved, and wasn't overly concerned about the willingness of his conquests.

I don't approve of any of these people, and would love to select a candidate where the concern wasn't picking the manure that fosters preferred growth.

[wmw999 2,598]

OK, so DEI is the hill you’re dying on. How, without emphasizing the need to consider all options, do we get people to consider “others.” Like, you know, women, minorities, foreigners. 
Unless you subscribe to the concept that white men are naturally smarter and superior, of course. But even then, that neglects the spending power of everyone else. Having men design something “for women” generally ends up with a surplus of pink and fuzzy, and a dearth of intelligent features

Wendy P. 

[gowlerk 2,283]

16 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

OK, so DEI is the hill you’re dying on. How, without emphasizing the need to consider all options, do we get people to consider “others.” Like, you know, women, minorities, foreigners. 
Unless you subscribe to the concept that white men are naturally smarter and superior, of course. But even then, that neglects the spending power of everyone else. Having men design something “for women” generally ends up with a surplus of pink and fuzzy, and a dearth of intelligent features

Wendy P. 

Who doesn’t love pink and fuzzy? Some people just can’t get over the fact that other humans aren’t straight sexually. It matters to them and they feel a strong need to suppress them. I’m sure they all have slightly different reasons. But the bottom line is they would likely kill them if they were able to. Just like has been done to so many by so many societies in the past.

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26 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

OK, so DEI is the hill you’re dying on. How, without emphasizing the need to consider all options, do we get people to consider “others.” Like, you know, women, minorities, foreigners. 
Unless you subscribe to the concept that white men are naturally smarter and superior, of course. But even then, that neglects the spending power of everyone else. Having men design something “for women” generally ends up with a surplus of pink and fuzzy, and a dearth of intelligent features

Wendy P. 

I can't bring myself to use your level of racism and sexism to address your stance.  You win.

[billvon 3,130]

3 hours ago, dogyks said:

the opposition panders to racism, sexism and discrimination (all for the noblest of reasons) and he's too busy being a scumbag to be bothered.

While he actually IS a rapist, a felon and a racist, and he directly supports and protects pedophiles.  But thank God he doesn't PANDER to rapists!  I mean, sorry about the women he raped and all, but at least he's an HONEST rapist.  (Well, he says he's not, but all men do that amirite?)

I am starting to see how people justified their support for people like Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin etc.  "Well, sure, he's killing Jews by the trainload, but at least he doesn't pander to anti-Semites!"

[jakee 1,605]

5 hours ago, dogyks said:

So he's a narcissistic sociopath.  What else is new?

So you don't care that your chosen one panders to racist, sexists and discriminators, and you don't care that he's trying to force DEI programmes on every university and government department in the country.

So why did you bring it up?

4 hours ago, dogyks said:

I can't bring myself to use your level of racism and sexism to address your stance.  You win.

You think that's news? Everyone already knows you're incapable of dialling down your virulent level of racism and sexism.

[wmw999 2,598]

4 hours ago, dogyks said:

I can't bring myself to use your level of racism and sexism to address your stance.  You win.

My point addresses the fact that most people hire others like them. There's lots and lots of data addressing that. I've never been more than a suggesting manager, so I'm not sure that I've ever exerted either racism or sexism in hiring someone. 

In the case of repair contractors, it's the ones who actually show up that win. That's a tall order in a lot of cities in the first place.

Wendy P.

[JerryBaumchen 1,471]

Hi folks,

One step closer to becoming the Third Reich:   federal takeover of police forces

Donald Trump Jr. calls Portland, Seattle ‘craphole cities,’ hints at federal takeover of police forces - oregonlive.com

And, why stop at Seattle & Portland:   the other craphole cities of the country

Jerry Baumchen