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[JoeWeber 2,963]

22 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

That's an interesting twist  So, you sent it in to your representatives? 

No, nor did I make the claim. My point, and good luck dissuading me, is that "your team" would never allow meaningful gun control laws. 

[JerryBaumchen 1,471]

19 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

No, nor did I make the claim. My point, and good luck dissuading me, is that "your team" would never allow meaningful gun control laws. 

Hi Joe,

It takes 34 states.  No one in the White House could get that done.

Even the great Reagan wanted changes to the 2nd.  Nothing has changed.

Jerry Baumchen

[JoeWeber 2,963]

7 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Joe,

It takes 34 states.  No one in the White House could get that done.

Even the great Reagan wanted changes to the 2nd.  Nothing has changed.

Jerry Baumchen

Which is why telling others to write letters if they care is silly. The Right Wing will not let and tiny bit of erosion to the Second, period. 

[Phil1111 1,189]

29 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

No, nor did I make the claim. My point, and good luck dissuading me, is that "your team" would never allow meaningful gun control laws. 

Trump has shown that the constitution is a paper tiger when it concerns rights.

Congress shows little duty to the intent or word of the constitution.

The USSC seems to ignore or interpret the constitution as it sees fit.

[BIGUN 1,497]

1 hour ago, JoeWeber said:

No, nor did I make the claim. My point, and good luck dissuading me, is that "your team" would never allow meaningful gun control laws.

But, I have and continue trying. You just quit. Wait. you didn't even try.  So, you get A's for enthusiasm And, the band played on.  

[normiss 901]

54 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Trump has shown that the constitution is a paper tiger when it concerns rights.

Congress shows little duty to the intent or word of the constitution.

The USSC seems to ignore or interpret the constitution as it sees fit.

Checkpoint Trump was set-up in downtown DC last night.

I'd have a VERY hard time gong through a checkpoint in the US.

YOUR PAPERS PLEASE!!!

[JerryBaumchen 1,471]

7 minutes ago, normiss said:

Checkpoint Trump was set-up in downtown DC last night.

I'd have a VERY hard time gong through a checkpoint in the US.

YOUR PAPERS PLEASE!!!

Hi Mark,

From your link:  “ I don’t want to call a national emergency. If I have to, I will,” [ Trump ] said.

IMO that is one of the first steps down a VERY slippery slope.

And I thought he said he would only be a dictator for one day.

Jerry Baumchen

[nigel99 634]

5 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Phil,

Re:  Most cops and military know whats right

I agree.

Re:  Most . . .  military know whats . . . constitutional.

This, I doubt.  As Joe said, they will just toss the card in the trash & never give it another thought.

I spent 4 yrs as a GI; I doubt that the thinking has evolved much since.

Jerry Baumchen

 

For what it’s worth American soldiers based in Aus that my son works with aren’t held in high regard. Poor discipline and lots of petty theft, to the extent the Aussie’s lock up their valuables when American troops are around. 

There have been a number of rapes and fights that have occurred and been swept under the rug as America protected them. Last year in California I had a retired US Marine tell me a story of how he got in a fight  he started/got into in Sydney and how they got away with it - granted his story was from the late 90’s early 2000’s. 

[JoeWeber 2,963]

2 hours ago, BIGUN said:

But, I have and continue trying. You just quit. Wait. you didn't even try.  So, you get A's for enthusiasm And, the band played on.  

I also quit building my own rocket to go to the moon and practicing Vietnamese in the hope I would ever be understood. So really, believing it futile that a majority of Republicans or our Supreme Court will change the Second Amendment seems in line. But if you choose to believe writing letters and voting third party is the way out of this mess, best of luck to us all.

[JerryBaumchen 1,471]

8 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

I also quit building my own rocket to go to the moon and practicing Vietnamese in the hope I would ever be understood. So really, believing it futile that a majority of Republicans or our Supreme Court will change the Second Amendment seems in line. But if you choose to believe writing letters and voting third party is the way out of this mess, best of luck to us all.

Hi Joe,

Re:  voting third party

IMO on par with believing in the Easter Bunny & other foolishness.

Jerry Baumchen

[richravizza 28]

On 8/11/2025 at 6:15 AM, Phil1111 said:

 

Like WTF?  You're the first to suggest there is an underlying purpose to the word salads used trying in vain to make a point.

Brilliant  

No that was bill tring to tie the Republican Party of today and yester to the KKK. It's illogical. Or...

Do you mean to tell me the KKK is from the Abolitionist North,them damn Yanks, seems I've had it wrong the whole time.

Did you ever read An Introduction to CRT.I found a Gem for you.. Page three, first paragraph,Add laugh track.

[kallend 2,166]

18 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

I cannot fathom how this is not obvious to all.

35% of the population has IQ < 94.  This is in line with TACO's approval rating.

[TriGirl 349]

On 8/14/2025 at 3:28 PM, GeorgiaDon said:

It seems to me that a problem with the argument that soldiers take an oath to not obey unlawful orders is that it requires everybody to be able to discern an unlawful order.  If several soldiers are ordered to execute a group of unarmed prisoners, and 19 soldiers refuse the order but 1 obeys the unarmed prisoners will still end up dead.  You need 100% compliance.  An order as extreme as "shoot all the prisoners" may be obviously illegal if it comes from some sergeant, but something less extreme may not be so obvious even if a court were to eventually rule that the act was illegal, and even an extreme act may be of uncertain legality if it comes from the president.  This Supreme Court seems to be taking the position that the President can do anything, even if it violates the plain language of the constitution, and they are immune from prosecution.  In the case of birthright citizenship , for example, their ruling was that people have to comply for now, and maybe eventually they will get around to deciding if the executive order was lawful.  If your career depends on following lawful orders, and the "lawful" part is ambiguous, there will always be people (lots of people) who will choose to follow the order.

Yep -- I have two words for you:  Abu Ghraib. How many of the personnel who took part in the blatantly illegal acts there looked back and were appalled and disgusted with themselves?  We can look from the outside and say unequivocally that those actions were so far outside the realm of OK that how could they not have known?  But 1) you will likely find that one or two whose own "Overton window" is far afield of what is acceptable, and 2) those others who are easily convinced that they are right. These days, with the influence of Fox, OANN, etc., the second group is larger and easier to convince.

[gowlerk 2,281]

32 minutes ago, TriGirl said:

Yep -- I have two words for you:  Abu Ghraib. How many of the personnel who took part in the blatantly illegal acts there looked back and were appalled and disgusted with themselves?  We can look from the outside and say unequivocally that those actions were so far outside the realm of OK that how could they not have known?  But 1) you will likely find that one or two whose own "Overton window" is far afield of what is acceptable, and 2) those others who are easily convinced that they are right. These days, with the influence of Fox, OANN, etc., the second group is larger and easier to convince.

Not to mention that of course God is on their side.

[JerryBaumchen 1,471]

2 hours ago, TriGirl said:

Yep -- I have two words for you:  Abu Ghraib. How many of the personnel who took part in the blatantly illegal acts there looked back and were appalled and disgusted with themselves?  We can look from the outside and say unequivocally that those actions were so far outside the realm of OK that how could they not have known?  But 1) you will likely find that one or two whose own "Overton window" is far afield of what is acceptable, and 2) those others who are easily convinced that they are right. These days, with the influence of Fox, OANN, etc., the second group is larger and easier to convince.

Hi Tanya,

Also, from my experience:  You could have a 'lively discussion' with an NCO about an order; but, you did not question an order from an officer.

Jerry Baumchen

Edited Friday at 09:40 PM by JerryBaumchen

[billvon 3,121]

18 hours ago, richravizza said:

No that was bill tring to tie the Republican Party of today and yester to the KKK.

You didn't even read the post did you.

I guess if you want to continue supporting Trump you have to skip over . . . well, most facts.

[Phil1111 1,189]

Trump's much ballyhooed meeting with Putin went exactly like it was anticipated. Putin played Trump like an old stradivarius. Trump had all sorts of deadlines for a ceasefire prior to the meeting. None of which Putin did anything about. Trump made all sorts of statements that he cold tell if Putin was serious about peace within two minutes of meeting him. 

Now according to Putin its all about addressing the "underlying issues" that caused the war. ...Like all the Nazis running the Ukrainian government. At least thats what Russia laid the blame for when the war started. 

What happened to sanctions if Putin wasn't serious?

Typical Trump all talk, B.S. and bluster until President Putin tells him what to think.

 

[JerryBaumchen 1,471]

56 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Trump's much ballyhooed meeting with Putin went exactly like it was anticipated. Putin played Trump like an old stradivarius. Trump had all sorts of deadlines for a ceasefire prior to the meeting. None of which Putin did anything about. Trump made all sorts of statements that he cold tell if Putin was serious about peace within two minutes of meeting him. 

Now according to Putin its all about addressing the "underlying issues" that caused the war. ...Like all the Nazis running the Ukrainian government. At least thats what Russia laid the blame for when the war started. 

What happened to sanctions if Putin wasn't serious?

Typical Trump all talk, B.S. and bluster until President Putin tells him what to think.

 

Hi Phil,

One thing for sure; Trump is now definitely the TACO.

All mouth, no substance.

By, by Nobel.

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  This says it all:

Edited Saturday at 12:30 AM by JerryBaumchen

[nigel99 634]

Watching the body language and tone of Trumps press conference he was very deferential and submissive to Putin.

Putin dominated the show. He talked longer and not once did Trump look bored or try to take over as he normally does. Another Trump stunt is to make people walk to him to shake hands, yet he crossed the stage to Putin. His signature game of trying to dominate handshakes was also far more submissive. 

It was interesting how much Putin emphasised how often they talk and how good their relationship is. All in all if Trump is a Russian asset he got an A+ on his performance review. 

[Phil1111 1,189]

17 minutes ago, nigel99 said:

Watching the body language and tone of Trumps press conference he was very deferential and submissive to Putin.

Putin dominated the show. He talked longer and not once did Trump look bored or try to take over as he normally does. Another Trump stunt is to make people walk to him to shake hands, yet he crossed the stage to Putin. His signature game of trying to dominate handshakes was also far more submissive. 

It was interesting how much Putin emphasised how often they talk and how good their relationship is. All in all if Trump is a Russian asset he got an A+ on his performance review. 

As compared to how Trump and his bag-licking minions treated Zelensky in the oval office. For all the discussions of what important issues should be addressed no mention of the 20,000 kidnapped Ukrainian children.

Perhaps Trump is jealous that Putin is an indicted war criminal and he is only a convicted sex offender and fraudster.

[jakee 1,601]

11 hours ago, nigel99 said:

Watching the body language and tone of Trumps press conference he was very deferential and submissive to Putin.

Of course - Putin is everything Trump wants to be in life. He's richer, more powerful, better at embezzling and wrote the book on transforming a democracy(ish) into a one-man authoritarian state.

Trump meeting Putin is like a teenage girl meeting Taylor Swift.

[JerryBaumchen 1,471]

Hi folks,

When you have only the best people working for you:  Trump-Putin documents left on hotel printer : NPR

Will heads roll?

Jerry Baumchen

[wmw999 2,595]

39 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

When you have only the best people working for you:  Trump-Putin documents left on hotel printer : NPR

Will heads roll?

Jerry Baumchen

Only NPR’s, because they said so.

Wendy P. 

[nigel99 634]

11 hours ago, jakee said:

Of course - Putin is everything Trump wants to be in life. He's richer, more powerful, better at embezzling and wrote the book on transforming a democracy(ish) into a one-man authoritarian state.

Trump meeting Putin is like a teenage girl meeting Taylor Swift.

He would have cum in his pants if he got a state visit to Saddam Hussein. A strong leader with a gold fetish!

[kallend 2,166]

Irony score 100%

"Trump administration to more heavily scrutinize "good moral character" requirement for U.S. citizenship"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-uscis-ctizenship-good-moral-character-scrutinize/