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[wmw999 2,641]

1 hour ago, gowlerk said:

The US government has never lacked for an excuse when it has decided an invasion was it wanted. No matter who the leader was.

Yep. The recently-late, always-great, Tom Lehrer said it best:

When someone makes a move 
Of which we don't approve, 
Who is it that always intervenes? 
U.N. and O.A.S., 
They have their place, I guess, 
But first - send the Marines!

We'll send them all we've got, 
John Wayne and Randolph Scott; 
Remember those exciting fighting scenes? 
To the shores of Tripoli, 
But not to Mississippoli, 
What do we do? We send the Marines!

For might makes right, 
And till they've seen the light, 
They've got to be protected, 
All their rights respected, 
Till somebody we like can be elected.

Members of the corps 
All hate the thought of war; 
They'd rather kill them off by peaceful means. 
Stop calling it aggression, 
Ooh, we hate that expression! 
We only want the world to know 
That we support the status quo. 
They love us everywhere we go, 
So when in doubt, 
Send the Marines!

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7 hours ago, jakee said:

It'll probably kick off the invasion of Greenland because he doesn't know the difference between Norway and Denmark.

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/rjc-nobel-peace-prize-trump/2025/10/09/id/1229677/

I thought this was satire, but it’s not. Some republicans aren’t just calling for Trump to win the peace prize, but for him to have it named after him. 

 

 

[dogyks 30]

Given that it was awarded to Obama and Gore, it is basically meaningless.

Hitchens' take on Obama's Nobel is that it was rather like giving an Oscar to a director in the hope that it would motivate him to make a good motion picture.

[wmw999 2,641]

Obama, I agree. Gore, I don’t, it just doesn’t align with your “whatever they want is the road to ruin” values. And a bad award doesn’t make it meaningless, think of Rosalind Franklin being left off the Nobel for DNA. And don’t forget Johannes Spiriger winning for an incorrect conclusion (roundworm causes cancer). And the Peace prize, by its very nature, is going to be political, because peace is always a relative thing, and by its own nature political  

Wendy P. 

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3 hours ago, dogyks said:

Given that it was awarded to Obama and Gore, it is basically meaningless.

As I recall, even Obama commented that he really did not understand why he should receive it. It clearly is a politically driven selection committee. The lobbying going on is even more outrageous that the selection process and an argument can be made that the pressure on them is well deserved.

[kallend 2,216]

6 hours ago, wmw999 said:

  And a bad award doesn’t make it meaningless, think of Rosalind Franklin being left off the Nobel for DNA.  

Wendy P. 

Franklin wasn't left off, she was ineligible since it's never awarded posthumously.

If you look up the actual contributions (rather than the revisionist version pushed by feminists) you'll see her contribution was limited to making the diffractometer used for the experiment.  Wilkens prepared and supplied the sample.  The famous Photo 51 was not taken by Franklin, it was taken by Ray Gosling** (who gets almost no credit whatsoever).  Franklin was unable to interpret the photo despite having it on her desk for weeks.  Crick figured it out despite only having a verbal description of it.  Franklin did not figure out how the base pairs fitted together, Watson did that.  And Lawrence Bragg invented the X-Ray crystallography and Astbury developed the particular method  used to take the photo.  So who was left out?

If you want to whine about misattributed credit, choose Jocelyn Bell*** instead (now Bell-Burnell).

 

**https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photo_51

***https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jocelyn_Bell_Burnell

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