JerryBaumchen 1,489 #2376 Saturday at 07:39 PM Hi folks, This is an interesting opinion piece; I know I was voting against Trump: Trump's influence on future US presidential elections There was much less passion for Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden or Kamala Harris than there was pure, unadulterated, unhinged hatred of Trump. I can say for sure that in my sampling of friends and family, all who voted for Clinton, Biden and Harris were really voting against Trump Any thoughts? Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 3,021 #2377 Saturday at 07:41 PM Just now, JerryBaumchen said: Hi folks, A win for the good guys: Another appeals court rules against Donald Trump on birthright citizenship Jerry Baumchen Bump in the road. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 3,021 #2378 Saturday at 07:43 PM (edited) Just now, JerryBaumchen said: Hi folks, This is an interesting opinion piece; I know I was voting against Trump: Trump's influence on future US presidential elections There was much less passion for Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden or Kamala Harris than there was pure, unadulterated, unhinged hatred of Trump. I can say for sure that in my sampling of friends and family, all who voted for Clinton, Biden and Harris were really voting against Trump Any thoughts? Jerry Baumchen Old news, I'm afraid. Here Winsor is right, we put up poor candidates. Where he is wrong is that they were worse than Trump. Edited Saturday at 08:03 PM by JoeWeber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 3,021 #2379 Sunday at 12:31 AM Trump appointed Federal Judge smacks down his attempt to deploy the Guard in Oregon. Decision: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ord.189270/gov.uscourts.ord.189270.56.0_1.pdf Excerpt: Here, this Court concludes that the President did not have a “colorable basis” to invoke § 12406(3) to federalize the National Guard because the situation on the ground belied an inability of federal law enforcement officers to execute federal law. Id. at 1051–52. The President’s determination was simply untethered to the facts. (Italics mine) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogyks 30 #2380 Sunday at 06:01 PM 22 hours ago, JoeWeber said: Old news, I'm afraid. Here Winsor is right, we put up poor candidates. Where he is wrong is that they were worse than Trump. Entirely depends on your metric. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 3,021 #2381 Sunday at 07:04 PM Just now, dogyks said: Entirely depends on your metric. Indeed, and my metric is to not irreversibly harm our nation by inciting a confused citizenry to divide and conquer themselves so one ideology might consolidate dictatorial power as Trump is clearly doing. In fact, he loudly telegraphed his intentions long before the last election. Christian against Muslim, rich against poor, blue against red, cities against farms, science against ignorance and on and on and on. Somehow, according to your worldview, there is less harm in that idea than in E Pluribus Unum. I disagree. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 682 #2382 Sunday at 09:47 PM 3 hours ago, dogyks said: Entirely depends on your metric. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogyks 30 #2383 Monday at 02:28 AM 4 hours ago, nigel99 said: Boy, allowing for freestyle projection is certainly enlightening. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 682 #2384 Monday at 04:13 AM 1 hour ago, dogyks said: Boy, allowing for freestyle projection is certainly enlightening. You’ve never successfully argued or articulated why everyone else is so much worse than Trump - especially Harris. At this point I believe you’d vote for Putin or Satan provided they ran on a republican ticket and if Jesus Christ ran on a democratic ticket there’d be something that made him unelectable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 3,021 #2385 Monday at 05:01 AM Just now, nigel99 said: You’ve never successfully argued or articulated why everyone else is so much worse than Trump - especially Harris. At this point I believe you’d vote for Putin or Satan provided they ran on a republican ticket and if Jesus Christ ran on a democratic ticket there’d be something that made him unelectable. But he has made it clear: his opposition to all things DEI dominate his political viewpoint. In that world view dilution, which is the inevitable result, is the road to perdition. What is weird is that Winsor is very accomplished and is clearly a highly intelligent person who should be able to deflect mediocrity when needed. Given that we poor fools and simpletons are a form of continuing entertainment seems to prove the point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,645 #2386 Monday at 08:25 AM 3 hours ago, JoeWeber said: But he has made it clear: his opposition to all things DEI dominate his political viewpoint. In that world view dilution, which is the inevitable result, is the road to perdition. What is weird is that Winsor is very accomplished and is clearly a highly intelligent person who should be able to deflect mediocrity when needed. Why does that make it weird? Highly intelligent people can be just as racist as idiots like Pete Hegseth and Charlie Kirk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 916 #2387 Monday at 06:41 PM On 10/4/2025 at 8:15 AM, wmw999 said: Because, after all, Puerto Ricans are hispanic, and maybe they can be deported to South Sudan or something. Or maybe it's that ALL hispanics listen to Bad Bunny, just like ALL white people listen to Alice Cooper Wendy P. I saw Alice Cooper performing in Orlando around 04-05. He was the parking lot entertainment for the opening of a small, now defunct, driving range. I was laughing too hard to actually stop and listen to him play though. Pretty sad to see old musicians fade away, although David Lee Roth is quite sadly entertaining lately. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,170 #2388 Monday at 07:23 PM 15 hours ago, nigel99 said: You’ve never successfully argued or articulated why everyone else is so much worse than Trump - especially Harris. 1933 Germany, all the conservatives were saying "well, yeah, Hitler is pretty extreme, but I mean Hindenburg? Did you see how OLD that guy is? And his laugh!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,489 #2389 Tuesday at 01:07 AM Hi folks, The 21st century version of, 'Let them eat cake:' “Don’t worry about it. Don’t worry about it. Don’t worry about it. Do not worry about it, it’s all coming,” Trump addresses military pay during government shutdown When you do not have the money to feed your children, you do worry. Trump simply does not care. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 405 #2390 Tuesday at 02:03 AM Most of us have a part of the brain we use to empathize with or feel concern for other people. In Trump's brain that part is a mass of worms. He is unable to feel concern for anyone except himself and possibly his children (who are an extension of himself). Born into extreme wealth, and never having had to worry for a second about money, he is incapable of imaginig himself in the position of being unable to afford food or anything else. That also explains why he is so uncaring about military personnel he rips from their families and jobs to carry out his political theater. To Trump people are just tools to be used and discarded when they are no longer useful, or obstacles to be destroyed. But nevertheless to some people he's still better than Harris, or Biden, or Obama. For "reasons". 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,216 #2391 yesterday at 06:33 PM When the guy at the top sets the tone, is it surprising that the underlings lie like oriental rugs too? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/06/oregon-republicans-protest-photo-south-america Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,489 #2392 23 hours ago (edited) 3 hours ago, kallend said: When the guy at the top sets the tone, is it surprising that the underlings lie like oriental rugs too? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/06/oregon-republicans-protest-photo-south-america Hi John, And, the 'guy at the top' just lost another one: Oregon National Guard troops can remain under Trump’s control but cannot deploy to Portland: appeals court - oregonlive.com Plus, Sec Noem was here yesterday for a first-hand look. I do not know what universe she lives in: “( Noem said ) my concern, is that you’ve got so many people here in Portland playing politics. They don’t realize they’re up against professional terrorists” Kristi Noem Levels Ominous Threat At Portland Mayor | HuffPost Latest News And, after meeting with the Oregon governor, the Portland Mayor, and the Portland Chief of Police, she said: “One of the things I’ve been dealing with all day here in Portland is a bunch of pansies that are elected into political office who won’t make a decision to keep their citizens safe,” She also said: “Listen, this mayor is going to wait until somebody gets violently hurt or killed,” she said. “He’s going to have blood on his hands . . . Kristi Noem came to Portland, and people protested with dogs, dancing: Get caught up The only thing that I know of any blood being shed is due to the ICE agents assaulting law-abiding protesters; including one couple in their 80's. I'm am not going to tell anyone that Portland is all milk & honey; it is like any other large, major city. It has its dark side [ IMO not much ] and it has its very nice side. This area is a great place to live & raise a family; ask me how I know. Jerry Baumchen PS) This website lets you know if Portland is currently burning - oregonlive.com - Trump should give it a look. Edited 23 hours ago by JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,489 #2393 23 hours ago Hi folks, Found this: ( Trump ) blaming the Democrats for the government shutdown. Retired federal land managers say that partisan shutdown language is chilling : NPR Without question, the dumbest Prez in my lifetime. As MJOSparky used to post: You cannot fix stupid. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,216 #2394 22 hours ago We now have three cases in the Chicago area where ICE agents' claims made to justify arresting (in one case shooting) protestors have been shown to be lies when the video finally came to light. Lies all the way from the very top top to the bottom. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,489 #2395 22 hours ago 4 minutes ago, kallend said: We now have three cases in the Chicago area where ICE agents' claims made to justify arresting (in one case shooting) protestors have been shown to be lies when the video finally came to light. Lies all the way from the very top top to the bottom. Hi John, Lying is a req'ment for employment in the Trump 2.0 admin. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,260 #2396 22 hours ago 13 minutes ago, kallend said: We now have three cases in the Chicago area where ICE agents' claims made to justify arresting (in one case shooting) protestors have been shown to be lies when the video finally came to light. Lies all the way from the very top top to the bottom. Lies are good in the MAGA world. The videos will play endlessly on FOX along with pepper spraying brown and liberal protesters. Perhaps a little use of nightsticks and batons to titillate the Trump base. To prove that Trump is really owning the libs. Sometimes lies need to be massaged into truth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,489 #2397 17 hours ago 6 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi John, And, the 'guy at the top' just lost another one: Oregon National Guard troops can remain under Trump’s control but cannot deploy to Portland: appeals court - oregonlive.com Plus, Sec Noem was here yesterday for a first-hand look. I do not know what universe she lives in: “( Noem said ) my concern, is that you’ve got so many people here in Portland playing politics. They don’t realize they’re up against professional terrorists” Kristi Noem Levels Ominous Threat At Portland Mayor | HuffPost Latest News And, after meeting with the Oregon governor, the Portland Mayor, and the Portland Chief of Police, she said: “One of the things I’ve been dealing with all day here in Portland is a bunch of pansies that are elected into political office who won’t make a decision to keep their citizens safe,” She also said: “Listen, this mayor is going to wait until somebody gets violently hurt or killed,” she said. “He’s going to have blood on his hands . . . Kristi Noem came to Portland, and people protested with dogs, dancing: Get caught up The only thing that I know of any blood being shed is due to the ICE agents assaulting law-abiding protesters; including one couple in their 80's. I'm am not going to tell anyone that Portland is all milk & honey; it is like any other large, major city. It has its dark side [ IMO not much ] and it has its very nice side. This area is a great place to live & raise a family; ask me how I know. Jerry Baumchen PS) This website lets you know if Portland is currently burning - oregonlive.com - Trump should give it a look. Hi folks, Just to add: Federal agents knock down elderly couple during Portland protest - oregonlive.com ICE thugs in action. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 682 #2398 6 minutes ago https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/09/norway-braces-for-trumps-reaction-if-he-does-not-win-nobel-peace-prize Insanity when a country is preparing for retribution if Trump doesn’t get the peace prize. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites