It’s up to the Democrats to save us

[brenthutch 444]

From a second Trump term.

I really thought Trumpism would have faded by now but unfortunately I was wrong.  With Trump polling better than all of his Republican rivals COMBINED, it looks like he will be the Rs nominee. On the other side of the ledger we have Biden who, some polls show, is behind in the crucial battleground states.  Add that to his deteriorating cognitive abilities, his very unpopular VP, plunging consumer sentiment, rising gas prices, urban crime sprees, inflation and an out of control border and it makes a second Trump term seem inevitable. The Ds need to open up their primary and find a candidate who is not so gravely compromised.

(I will add, Trump’s VP will likely be Vivek who will destroy Harris in the debates and siphon off the Indian American vote)

Edited September 28, 2023 by brenthutch

[wmw999 2,584]

4 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

The Ds need to open up their primary and find a candidate who is not so gravely compromised.

And who exactly compromised them? The Democrats could nominate the risen Jesus Christ, and the conservative networks would say he's too liberal (all that love the poor crap), and the evangelicals would reject him.

Kamala isn't nearly as unpopulated with people who haven't been fed a steady diet of Fox and other righter networks; neither is Biden nearly as senile as they make him seem. Just look at the differing perceptions of Trump's COVFEFE tweet

Wendy P.

[brenthutch 444]

3 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

Kamala isn't nearly as unpopulated with people who haven't been fed a steady diet of Fox and other righter networks; neither is Biden nearly as senile as they make him seem. 

Wendy P.

https://www.latimes.com/projects/kamala-harris-approval-rating-polls-vs-biden-other-vps/#:~:text=As of Sept.,update as new polls arrive.
 

Two things…

First, thank you for admitting the obvious, Biden is senile.

Second,  “as of Sept. 19, 39% of registered voters had a favorable opinion of Harris and 54% had an unfavorable opinion — a net rating of -15 percentage points”

[JoeWeber 2,932]

1 minute ago, brenthutch said:

https://www.latimes.com/projects/kamala-harris-approval-rating-polls-vs-biden-other-vps/#:~:text=As of Sept.,update as new polls arrive.
 

Two things…

First, thank you for admitting the obvious, Biden is senile.

Second,  “as of Sept. 19, 39% of registered voters had a favorable opinion of Harris and 54% had an unfavorable opinion — a net rating of -15 percentage points”

Good thing favorable approval ratings aren't a thing here, right?

[billvon 3,107]

16 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

And who exactly compromised them? The Democrats could nominate the risen Jesus Christ, and the conservative networks would say he's too liberal (all that love the poor crap), and the evangelicals would reject him.

No one wants a beta male who lets himself get CRUCIFIED and spit on to govern them!  Not even animals would let the weakest of them lead the herd.  We don't need some lovey-dovey inner city hippie type to tell us what to do; we need a real man who kicks ass and takes names!

And besides, I heard about his laptop . .  . .and China something something . . . . and what about his emails?

[JerryBaumchen 1,463]

Hi folks,

Anyone who thinks Biden is senile has not been paying attention to when Trump talks without a script.

Jerry Baumchen

[wmw999 2,584]

21 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

https://www.latimes.com/projects/kamala-harris-approval-rating-polls-vs-biden-other-vps/#:~:text=As of Sept.,update as new polls arrive.
 

Two things…

First, thank you for admitting the obvious, Biden is senile.

Second,  “as of Sept. 19, 39% of registered voters had a favorable opinion of Harris and 54% had an unfavorable opinion — a net rating of -15 percentage points”

No he isn’t. He’s older than I want, but, ya know, I’d prefer a thoroughly senile Biden to Trump. Because he recognizes he has limitations; Trump neither recognizes it, nor is he willing to admit the possibility of differing opinions from his popularity.

Wendy P. 

[JoeWeber 2,932]

1 minute ago, wmw999 said:

No he isn’t. He’s older than I want, but, ya know, I’d prefer a thoroughly senile Biden to Trump. Because he recognizes he has limitations; Trump neither recognizes it, nor is he willing to admit the possibility of differing opinions from his popularity.

Wendy P. 

WTF is so hard about that to understand for BH and others here? Trump is flat out crazy and a second Trump Presidency would be a hellscape in America. Biden has many deficits and probably he should even put down his damn dog. Kamala isn't perfect but Vivek? Seriously? Can you even imagine having a team mate like Brent who so obviously is more focused on the other team losing than his own team winning? Don't try to get better when you can just convince the judges that the other team is cheating. Easy, peasy.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

9 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

Anyone who thinks Biden is senile has not been paying attention to when Trump talks without a script.

Jerry Baumchen

Hi Jerry,

Or paying any attention to Joe Biden for the past 20 or 30 years.

He's got a stutter. Totally in line with their 'supreme leader', the Trumpettes mock and belittle him for it.

Pretend it's a sign of senility.

But compare & contrast his speaking with stuff he said 20 years ago.

THEN compare Trump today with Trump 20 years ago.
Tell me Trump hasn't declined. A LOT.

Don't forget, Trump was given a preliminary test for Alzheimer's. Because HIS OWN PEOPLE ordered it.

[brenthutch 444]

11 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

No he isn’t. He’s older than I want, but, ya know, I’d prefer a thoroughly senile Biden to Trump. Because he recognizes he has limitations; Trump neither recognizes it, nor is he willing to admit the possibility of differing opinions from his popularity.

Wendy P. 

That is all beside the point, Trump’s support is a relatively solid 45% Biden’s support is a very soft <40%.  If the election were to be held today, Trump would likely win. Come on Ds you can do better. Nobody wants to start 2025 with a Trump revenge tour.

Edited September 28, 2023 by brenthutch

[billvon 3,107]

12 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

THEN compare Trump today with Trump 20 years ago.
Tell me Trump hasn't declined. A LOT.

But we can't let Biden run the country any more!  He will get us into World War II!  Only Trump can keep us out of World War II.

[brenthutch 444]

19 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

WTF is so hard about that to understand for BH and others here? Trump is flat out crazy and a second Trump Presidency would be a hellscape in America. 

I think you would be correct, however we were told that about his first term and what a lot of folks remember is low unemployment, low gas prices, low crime, tough on China (a policy Biden has kept in place) and a secure border.  The thing that ended his presidency was COVID, and that seems a distant memory now.  If Trump gets a second bite of the apple he will fill his administration with obsequious yes-men (and women) who will amplify rather than moderate his impulses.  Then it will be Katie bar the door.

Edited September 28, 2023 by brenthutch

[JoeWeber 2,932]

16 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

That is all beside the point, Trump’s support is a relatively solid 45% Biden’s support is a very soft <40%.  If the election were to be held today, Trump would likely win. Come on Ds you can do better. Nobody wants to start 2025 with a Trump revenge tour.

Stop it and start being a part of the solution. If you don't want a Trump revenge tour don't blame anyone except those unwise enough to denigrate the candidate you'd rather have win. You claim an MBA, well business 101 is learning that sometimes you hold your nose and make the overall better decision that has vastly less downside risk.

[brenthutch 444]

1 minute ago, JoeWeber said:

Stop it and start being a part of the solution. If you don't want a Trump revenge tour don't blame anyone except those unwise enough to denigrate the candidate you'd rather have win. You claim an MBA, well business 101 is learning that sometimes you hold your nose and make the overall better decision that has vastly less downside risk.

The PA primary is held so late, it makes no difference who we vote for

[SkyDekker 1,465]

1 hour ago, brenthutch said:

From a second Trump term.

I really thought Trumpism would have faded by now but unfortunately I was wrong.  With Trump polling better than all of his Republican rivals COMBINED, it looks like he will be the Rs nominee. On the other side of the ledger we have Biden who, some polls show, is behind in the crucial battleground states.  Add that to his deteriorating cognitive abilities, his very unpopular VP, plunging consumer sentiment, rising gas prices, urban crime sprees, inflation and an out of control border and it makes a second Trump term seem inevitable. The Ds need to open up their primary and find a candidate who is not so gravely compromised.

(I will add, Trump’s VP will likely be Vivek who will destroy Harris in the debates and siphon off the Indian American vote)

So because the Rs cannot field a candidate who hasn't been twice convicted for lying about not being a rapist, it is the Ds fault if he wins?

[JoeWeber 2,932]

Just now, brenthutch said:

The PA primary is held so late, it makes no difference who we vote for

But the amount of smack you talk does make a difference. Instead, get out there and tell your friends, except the Black one obviously, that it's time to hold your collective noses and put up Biden/Harris signs for the good of the nation.

[brenthutch 444]

8 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

So because the Rs cannot field a candidate who hasn't been twice convicted for lying about not being a rapist, it is the Ds fault if he wins?

If they nominate a loser, yes.  If you will recall, that is how we ended up with Trump in the first place.  

[JoeWeber 2,932]

2 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

If they nominate a loser, yes.  If you will recall, that is how we ended up with Trump in the first place.  

No, it was because so many lack the ability to see the big picture.

[jakee 1,593]

16 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

I think you would be correct, however we were told that about his first term and what a lot of folks remember is low unemployment, low gas prices, low crime, tough on China (a policy Biden has kept in place) and a secure border.  The thing that ended his presidency was COVID, and that seems a distant memory now.  If Trump gets a second bite of the apple he will fill his administration with obsequious yes-men (and women) who will amplify rather than moderate his impulses.  Then it will be Katie bar the door.

So what does it matter what the Democrats do when what people just decide to remember something different?

The unemployment rate in 2019 is the unemployment rate now. If that's not good enough, then what?

The US economy is significantly outperforming comparable Eurozone economies and paractically every other first world country. If that's not good enough, then what? 

If you're worried that the Republicans can brainwash everyone into accepting another Trump presidency then stop being part of the problem. Stop pushing anti left propaganda. Fuck - at the same time as posting in this thread you're loudly pushing the most tenuous and unsupported accusations of corruption against Biden when you know that Trump ran the most corrupt, nepotistic White House in history but stayed silent.

Stop blaming everyone else for your own failings and if you're worried about the prospect of Trump 2.0, do something about it yourself.

[brenthutch 444]

Looks like the US is in the same pickle South Park Elementary was in a few years back, having to choose between a giant douche and a turd sandwich.

[jakee 1,593]

The literal, actual job of a douche is to clean out turds, so I fail to see how that's a decision that any normal person would need to spend more than half a second making. Which really does make it a good analogy for Biden vs Trump. So why do you keep lobbying for the turd?

Edited September 28, 2023 by jakee

[brenthutch 444]

1 minute ago, jakee said:

Trump ran the most…nepotistic White House in history 

 

I guess you weren’t around for Hillary-care

[JoeWeber 2,932]

38 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Looks like the US is in the same pickle South Park Elementary was in a few years back, having to choose between a giant douche and a turd sandwich.

And here was me thinking you got your news from FOX.

[billvon 3,107]

1 hour ago, SkyDekker said:

So because the Rs cannot field a candidate who hasn't been twice convicted for lying about not being a rapist, it is the Ds fault if he wins?

Heck, it's the D's fault that Trump has been raping and defrauding people to begin with!  THANKS OBAMA!

[jakee 1,593]

1 hour ago, brenthutch said:

I guess you weren’t around for Hillary-care

This ought to be good.* Please explain?

 

And again - the Republicans called three expert witnesses today and two of them explicitly stated that they had not seen any evidence that would support an impeachment. But you do. You think there's evidence proving Biden's corruption despite the Republican's own experts saying there isn't... and you complain that people don't like Biden enough! Well how about you take some responsibility and stop spreading lies about Biden?

 

 

* By which I mean catastrophically nonsensical.

Edited September 28, 2023 by jakee