Hurricane season

[billvon 3,090]

Good article on the overall change in hurricanes for the past few decades:

https://phys.org/news/2020-10-trends-hurricane-behavior-stronger-slower.html

Summary: "Global trends suggest hurricanes are getting stronger, moving more slowly over land, and deviating farther north and south of the equator."

It is also worth noting that this article comes from Phys.org, and cites articles in PNAS and Nature.  It is not from FOX News, CNN, WattsUpWithThat, a petroleum company website or a solar advocacy website.

 

[JoeWeber 2,871]

3 minutes ago, billvon said:

Good article on the overall change in hurricanes for the past few decades:

https://phys.org/news/2020-10-trends-hurricane-behavior-stronger-slower.html

Summary: "Global trends suggest hurricanes are getting stronger, moving more slowly over land, and deviating farther north and south of the equator."

It is also worth noting that this article comes from Phys.org, and cites articles in PNAS and Nature.  It is not from FOX News, CNN, WattsUpWithThat, a petroleum company website or a solar advocacy website.

 

I recognize that, except for Phil, I'm unlikely to get much sympathy here but the actuaries who calculate my insurance premium seem rather convinced that climate change is for realsies.

[olofscience 490]

10 hours ago, brenthutch said:

If you molest the data hard enough you can get it to show anything.

Go on then, show where the data has been "molested".

It'll be interesting to see you, who could barely add, check how this data has been processed.

[Phil1111 1,149]

10 hours ago, billvon said:

Good article on the overall change in hurricanes for the past few decades:

https://phys.org/news/2020-10-trends-hurricane-behavior-stronger-slower.html

Summary: "Global trends suggest hurricanes are getting stronger, moving more slowly over land, and deviating farther north and south of the equator."

It is also worth noting that this article comes from Phys.org, and cites articles in PNAS and Nature.  It is not from FOX News, CNN, WattsUpWithThat, a petroleum company website or a solar advocacy website.

 

Soon the only insurer in the most climate at risk states will be the insurer of last resorts, Uncle Sam. California, Texas, Louisiana, Florida and a couple others will have premiums in the stratosphere.

Then we have the farmers in Texas, the central plains and other areas hard hit by drought and floods. Uncle Sam to the rescue again.

Meanwhile immigrants keep flooding across the border because farming in C. America is so difficult.

[JerryBaumchen 1,451]

6 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

Soon the only insurer in the most climate at risk states will be the insurer of last resorts, Uncle Sam. California, Texas, Louisiana, Florida and a couple others will have premiums in the stratosphere.

Then we have the farmers in Texas, the central plains and other areas hard hit by drought and floods. Uncle Sam to the rescue again.

Meanwhile immigrants keep flooding across the border because farming in C. America is so difficult.

Hi Phil,

At some point in time, this country is going to have a Come to Jesus Moment & realize that the gov't [ at any level ] cannot fix everything.  It is not financially feasible.

Jerry Baumchen

[brenthutch 444]

17 hours ago, billvon said:

Good article on the overall change in hurricanes for the past few decades:

https://phys.org/news/2020-10-trends-hurricane-behavior-stronger-slower.html

Summary: "Global trends suggest hurricanes are getting stronger, moving more slowly over land, and deviating farther north and south of the equator."

It is also worth noting that this article comes from Phys.org, and cites articles in PNAS and Nature.  It is not from FOX News, CNN, WattsUpWithThat, a petroleum company website or a solar advocacy website.

 

“There is no strong evidence of century-scale increasing trends in U.S. landfalling hurricanes…., there is not strong evidence for an increase since the late 1800s in hurricanes, major hurricanes or the proportion of hurricanes that reach major hurricane intensity.“ 

That came directly from NOAA, via a link Phil provided. Hardly a “denier”

[kallend 2,117]

On Monday, a water temperature sensor in Manatee Bay near Everglades National Park recorded a temperature of 101.1 degrees (F), according to a park spokesperson.

Hurricanes will like that.

[johnhking1 100]

1 minute ago, kallend said:

On Monday, a water temperature sensor in Manatee Bay near Everglades National Park recorded a temperature of 101.1 degrees (F), according to a park spokesperson.

Hurricanes will like that.

Do you like your Manatees soft boiled or hard boiled.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

2 hours ago, brenthutch said:

“There is no strong evidence of century-scale increasing trends in U.S. landfalling hurricanes…., there is not strong evidence for an increase since the late 1800s in hurricanes, major hurricanes or the proportion of hurricanes that reach major hurricane intensity.“ 

That came directly from NOAA, via a link Phil provided. Hardly a “denier”

So what? The impact of climate change is expected to be on the intensity of hurricanes and the speed at which they travel (slowing down).

The above doesn't dispute that.

[gowlerk 2,260]

3 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Phil,

At some point in time, this country is going to have a Come to Jesus Moment & realize that the gov't [ at any level ] cannot fix everything.  It is not financially feasible.

Jerry Baumchen

Will there be a moment when it is realized that god cannot fix everything? Thoughts and prayers are cheap, and worth every penny.

[brenthutch 444]

48 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

So what? The impact of climate change is expected to be on the intensity of hurricanes and the speed at which they travel (slowing down).

 

“Expected” 

BTW the whole “slowing down” theory only occurred after Harvey when it was trapped between two equally strong high pressure systems. A phenomenon that has nothing to do with global warming. If climate science was as advanced as some claim, it would have been predicted before Harvey.  Making predictions after the fact doesn’t impress me.

Edited July 27, 2023 by brenthutch

[SkyDekker 1,465]

Just now, brenthutch said:

“Expected” AKA guessed.

Sure, when somebody gets shot in the head they are expected to die. Sometimes they survive. It is all just a guess. Does that mean you should have no problem playing Russian roulette?

[SkyDekker 1,465]

1 minute ago, brenthutch said:

“Expected” AKA guessed.

But really. No, not guessed.

[brenthutch 444]

1 minute ago, SkyDekker said:

But really. No, not guessed.

I fixed it 

[SkyDekker 1,465]

3 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

I fixed it 

Narrator: "He didn't."

[olofscience 490]

7 hours ago, brenthutch said:

If climate science was as advanced as some claim, it would have been predicted before Harvey.

Oh, you get to set the standards now?

7 hours ago, brenthutch said:

Making predictions after the fact doesn’t impress me.

That''s rich...

2 years ago NASA and other agencies predicted that the La Nina was forming and would make 2022 only the 5th hottest year on record. Instead of impressing you, all you did was crow and pat your own back that "it's not the hottest year despite record CO2".

7 hours ago, brenthutch said:

“Expected” AKA guessed.

Early this year you "went out on a limb" and predicted this year won't even hit the top 5 hottest, but you know what you're doing? GUESSING. (And you already have a 97% chance of being wrong).

Yes you edited it out, but this shows what you think scientists do, because you have to think you're at par somehow, and "just guessing" the absolute limit of your ability.
 

[brenthutch 444]

4 hours ago, olofscience said:

Early this year you "went out on a limb" and predicted this year won't even hit the top 5 hottest, but you know what you're doing? GUESSING. (And you already have a 97% chance of being wrong).
 

I must be pretty good at guessing given how I hit it out of the ballpark on my predictions for this year.

[olofscience 490]

50 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

I must be pretty good at guessing

No, you're really not.

[billvon 3,090]

1 hour ago, brenthutch said:

I must be pretty good at guessing  . .  .

Yep.  Tesla is now bankrupt and it's been cooling ever since 2016.

Right?

[brenthutch 444]

Record hot water, peak hurricane season… let’s check out all of the hurricanes 

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/

[olofscience 490]

5 hours ago, brenthutch said:

Record hot water

So close to self-awareness, yet so far.

[lippy 918]

31 minutes ago, olofscience said:

So close to self-awareness, yet so far.

Baby steps. 

[olofscience 490]

1 hour ago, lippy said:

Baby steps. 

No, he's doing impressive mental gymnastics and contortions...to avoid taking that next baby step.

[Phil1111 1,149]

1 hour ago, olofscience said:

No, he's doing impressive mental gymnastics and contortions...to avoid taking that next baby step.

Republicans can't admit trump is a career criminal and they love him. Brent can't admit he's wrong about science and politics yet loves what those views bring to his personal benefit.

[brenthutch 444]

2 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Republicans can't admit trump is a career criminal and they love him. Brent can't admit he's wrong about science and politics yet loves what those views bring to his personal benefit.

If I was wrong, the Atlantic would be teaming with a record number of tropical storms…but it’s not…so…