Hottest day ever recorded

[JoeWeber 2,939]

5 hours ago, olofscience said:

Is brent on a time-out? I mean, nobody was expecting anything comprehensive, but he was probably about to do some mental gymnastics fit for the Olympics.

He's making a list and checking it twice, gonna find out who's naughty or nice, climate change ain't coming to town!

[kallend 2,147]

8 hours ago, lippy said:

FIFY

That's insultling to participants in the Special Olympics.

[billvon 3,116]

10 hours ago, olofscience said:

Is brent on a time-out? I mean, nobody was expecting anything comprehensive, but he was probably about to do some mental gymnastics fit for the Olympics.

He is waiting for mainstream conservative media to tell him what to say, and then we will hear the new talking points from the right.

[Phil1111 1,178]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

He is waiting for mainstream conservative media to tell him what to say, and then we will hear the new talking points from the right.

Then he will point out that its -74 F at the South Pole right now with light snow...Just kidding everyone here knows facts won't be quoted.

[billvon 3,116]

Since it is out now, some summaries from the June NOAA report:

For the third consecutive month, global ocean surface temperatures set a record high.

Smoke plumes from Canada’s most destructive wildfire season reached European skies.

Antarctica saw its second consecutive month of record-low sea ice extent.

With nine tropical storms across the globe, June 2023 had a global accumulated cyclone energy that was almost twice its average value for the month.

The June global surface temperature was 1.89°F (1.05°C) above the 20th-century average of 59.9°F (15.5°C), making it the warmest June on record.

For the third consecutive month, global ocean surface temperature hit a record high.

The Southern Hemisphere had its warmest June on record and the Northern Hemisphere tied 2019 for its warmest June.

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/global-climate-summary-june-2023

[billvon 3,116]

On 7/5/2023 at 11:03 AM, billvon said:

On July 3rd we saw the hottest day that was ever recorded, period.  The global average was 62.62F, which of course includes places like Antarctica.  This unprecendented record was held until . . . the very next day, when it was broken again. 

That was two days worth of records.  We now have SEVENTEEN DAYS IN A ROW where global high temperature records were broken.  And in Phoenix it has hit 110 degrees or over for 20 straight days.

You could say it's the new normal, but of course it's not.  It will keep getting hotter.

[kallend 2,147]

Looks like it's still quite warm in Phoenix, and forecast to continue that way for several more days.

[billvon 3,116]

Phoenix has now had 23 days above 110F.  El Paso broke its own records for the fifth day in a row.  Today's high was 107.  Salt lake city set another record for highest temperature - 105.  Death Valley broke its daily record at 128 degrees.

And it's not even the hottest part of the year yet.

Any more of this and BH will have to revise history a bit and pat himself on the back for predicting this.

[kallend 2,147]

And in another part of the country, Monday will be the 44th consecutive day in Miami with a heat index temperature, a "feels like" figure measured by including humidity, above 100 degrees, forecasters said.

[Phil1111 1,178]

13 hours ago, billvon said:

....

And it's not even the hottest part of the year yet.

Any more of this and BH will have to revise history a bit and pat himself on the back for predicting this.

To understand all the global climate events going on I wonder what it would be like to be a republican. Blame the economy and environmental changes on Blacks and Libs. As such not have a worry in the world. Certainly none that can't be solved by prayer and screwing others over to make a buck. Such a simple and uncaring life where the thinking part of the brain is occupied by hate and how to run another scam.

[kallend 2,147]

North Atlantic temperature anomaly (fluctuation from mean) vs day of year.   The red line is 2023 (so far), the blue lines are the previous 40 years.

Antarctic sea ice anomaly vs day of year.  Red line is 2023 so far, blue are previous 30 years (2016 is last el Nino).

 

[billvon 3,116]

14 minutes ago, kallend said:

North Atlantic temperature anomaly (fluctuation from mean) vs day of year.   The red line is 2023 (so far), the blue lines are the previous 40 years.

Yeah but that red line dipped down slightly at the end.

See?  IT'S COOLING!

[billvon 3,116]

And the heat in the Southwest has now gotten so bad that it is killing off  . . . cactuses.  Saguaro cactuses, often seen as the symbol of Arizona (in fact their flower is the state flower) are dying due to the excessive heat at night.

https://www.azfamily.com/2023/07/28/phoenixs-record-heat-is-killing-off-cacti/

[Phil1111 1,178]

This is looking worse and worse. These are new records unprecedented and will devastate reefs and fish stocks.

[JerryBaumchen 1,466]

7 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

This is looking worse and worse. These are new records unprecedented and will devastate reefs and fish stocks.

Hi Phil,

IMO if we do not get this thing turned around, there is going to be mass starvation on this planet.

Now, that might be a good thing.  Getting rid of about 65% of the human population might bring us to some type of sustaining balance.

Jerry Baumchen

[billvon 3,116]

The heatwave in Phoenix has ended.  It rained on Monday, ending 31 DAYS of over 110 degree temperature.  A solid month over 110.

It was "cool" for 3 days (i.e. only got over 100.)  Now it's back up over 110.

(Up next - BH says "it got COOLER in Phoenix!  So much for global warming!   LOLOL!")

 

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

22 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Phil,

IMO if we do not get this thing turned around, there is going to be mass starvation on this planet.

Now, that might be a good thing.  Getting rid of about 65% of the human population might bring us to some type of sustaining balance.

Jerry Baumchen

Maybe.

But it depends on how it plays out.

What measures would countries take to prevent their entire populace from starving?
What measures would other countries take to prevent being over run by starving refugees?

How would China react to a BILLION starving Indians heading into China?

Nukes are a real possibility.

The DoD has gamed out this sort of scenario a LOT. Many of the outcomes are 'not good'.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

26 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

The DoD has gamed out this sort of scenario a LOT. Many of the outcomes are 'not good'.

Not good for people, earth will survive, which was the essence of the post you replied to.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

1 minute ago, SkyDekker said:

Not good for people, earth will survive, which was the essence of the post you replied to.

I read it as 'bring us to some sustainable balance', which would mean a habitable planet.

Large scale nuclear war would probably not be a good thing for that.

[kallend 2,147]

58 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Phil,

IMO if we do not get this thing turned around, there is going to be mass starvation on this planet.

Now, that might be a good thing.  Getting rid of about 65% of the human population might bring us to some type of sustaining balance.

Jerry Baumchen

Are you the reincarnation of Jonathan Swift?

[JerryBaumchen 1,466]

33 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Maybe.

But it depends on how it plays out.

What measures would countries take to prevent their entire populace from starving?
What measures would other countries take to prevent being over run by starving refugees?

How would China react to a BILLION starving Indians heading into China?

Nukes are a real possibility.

The DoD has gamed out this sort of scenario a LOT. Many of the outcomes are 'not good'.

Hi Joe,

This is the big IF.  If we could just let the population decrease by having less offspring, not so bad.  If we actually get to starving, not so good.

Stalin starved millions in Ukraine in the '30's.

One reason [ not the only ] World War I ended was when the Allies blockaded the German ports so they could not import food.  People were falling over dead in Berlin due to starvation.

Lots of IFs.

Jerry Baumchen

[JerryBaumchen 1,466]

3 minutes ago, kallend said:

Are you the reincarnation of Jonathan Swift?

Hi John,

I am just a guy who has always been concerned about the over-population of our planet.

Jerry Baumchen

[JerryBaumchen 1,466]

16 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

I read it as 'bring us to some sustainable balance', which would mean a habitable planet.

Large scale nuclear war would probably not be a good thing for that.

Hi Joe,

I have long believed that mankind is his own worst enemy.

New Six-Part Documentary Series HUMAN FOOTPRINT Examines How Humans Have Transformed the Planet (pbs.org)

Jerry Baumchen

PS)   The Limits to Growth - Wikipedia

 

Edited August 4, 2023 by JerryBaumchen

[kallend 2,147]

5 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi John,

I am just a guy who has always been concerned about the over-population of our planet.

Jerry Baumchen

Oh, Scrooge then:  “If they would rather die, they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.”

[JerryBaumchen 1,466]

3 minutes ago, kallend said:

Oh, Scrooge then:  “If they would rather die, they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.”

Hi John,

I guess that I am not a lone voice in the wilderness, then.

Jerry Baumchen