Powerful speech by Biden on the assault on Democracy

[wmw999 2,587]

6 minutes ago, airdvr said:

I wasn't aware video recorders are understaffed and overworked.

But live video monitors might well be.

Wendy P. 

[JoeWeber 2,937]

24 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Of course there is. The cops & the Pelosis are under no obligation to release the entire story to the media.

There are lots of reasons they wouldn't (one that comes to mind it that releasing all the video would let everyone know exactly where the cameras are located). 

If this goes to trial (it may or may not, a guilty plea is a pretty obvious possibility), more will be revealed. But not everything. It's pretty rare that every detail is made public. 

I find it pretty disgusting (not surprising) that the alt-right is going straight down the 'dumbass' rabbithole, trying to make Pelosi the aggressor. Trying to pretend that their own fucking rhetoric isn't responsible for this idiot attacking someone. 

One a side note, Seen elsewhere (paraphrased):
It's becoming more and more apparent that the alt-right considers these fools 'useful idiots' to be used and discarded. The Jan 6 insurrectionists got to see Steve Bannon pardoned, while they sit in jail or prison.
The fool that attacked Pelosi got wound up by all his 'friends', was so deeply conned that he committed multiple felonies, and is now being called a 'gay prostitute' by those who were responsible for his brainwashing.

And yet they'll all just soldier on believing the falsehoods and that we're all blind.

[billvon 3,111]

49 minutes ago, airdvr said:

My point is the lack of video recording. 

There is no lack of video recording.  Such claims are merely an attempt to mitigate the damage this does to right wing extremism.

[Phil1111 1,174]

41 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

And yet they'll all just soldier on believing the falsehoods and that we're all blind.

Hence the legitimate belief that we're all doomed and a case of Scotch is the only remedy.

[jakee 1,594]

52 minutes ago, airdvr said:

Pelosi's home is recorded by Capital Police.  If there is video of a break-in it ought to be easy enough to see.  The internet is lousy with that type of video.  A simple clip of the perp smashing the windows is all it would take.

I would really love to see that video.  Perhaps we never will but it might go a long way towards shutting down some of the useful idiots.

First, you have no right to see the video. A clip would have to be released with the Pelosi’s consent or leaked. And I can quite easily understand why placating you isn’t Nancy’s priority right now.

Second, you can’t play both sides on this. You are who you say needs to be shut down. You are talking about yourself.

[jakee 1,594]

54 minutes ago, airdvr said:

I wasn't aware video recorders are understaffed and overworked.

If you’re unaware that recording systems are monitored by humans then again, I don’t know what shared basis of reality we have that will allow a legitimate discussion.

[Phil1111 1,174]

22 minutes ago, billvon said:

There is no lack of video recording.  Such claims are merely an attempt to mitigate the damage this does to right wing extremism.

Yes after all how can the right recognize what they did was evil. Was to license an attack on a 82 year old man in his own home. Much better to spin the B.S. as it goes down the hole to all the eager rabbits.Their big ears ready to listen and accept it all.

The picture above was posted on Instagram by trump along with the captioned joke “Got my Paul Pelosi Halloween costume ready.”

Edited November 4, 2022 by Phil1111

[airdvr 210]

38 minutes ago, jakee said:

If you’re unaware that recording systems are monitored by humans then again, I don’t know what shared basis of reality we have that will allow a legitimate discussion.

Recording systems? Is that the case here?  The monitors in Epstein's cell don't record?

Edited November 4, 2022 by airdvr

[airdvr 210]

36 minutes ago, jakee said:

First, you have no right to see the video. A clip would have to be released with the Pelosi’s consent or leaked. And I can quite easily understand why placating you isn’t Nancy’s priority right now.

Second, you can’t play both sides on this. You are who you say needs to be shut down. You are talking about yourself.

See this is what the jugheads get up in arms about.  Question anything and be met with a barrage of snarkiness.

I said I hope we see that video some day.  I never said I had a right to it.

One thing I've learned over the years (and from raising children)...the more detailed the explanation the more chance there is that it's bullshit.

[billvon 3,111]

4 minutes ago, airdvr said:

I said I hope we see that video some day.

If that's all you said then there would be no issue.

But you're not really being honest here.   Here's what you actually said:

Anyone think it's odd that we haven't seen video of the break-in?

Any thoughts on the lack of video?

 . . .there is possibly more to the story than will be revealed.

My point is the lack of video recording.

If there is video of a break-in it ought to be easy enough to see. 

You have said, several times now, that the lack of video is an anomaly and that there is "more to the story" due to that lack.  THAT is what everyone has an issue with.

 

[wmw999 2,587]

6 minutes ago, airdvr said:

See this is what the jugheads get up in arms about.  Question anything and be met with a barrage of snarkiness.

I said I hope we see that video some day.  I never said I had a right to it.

One thing I've learned over the years (and from raising children)...the more detailed the explanation the more chance there is that it's bullshit.

Right now there’s a gotcha approach to any story. Nice setup to make it impossible to win. But that’s the whole point. Imagine if you were an anal-retentive asshole who questioned his kids in excruciating detail on every story. Wouldn’t you expect them to try to anticipate the questions before you asked them? It’s what every person who makes a presentation or teaches something does, up to a point. When I worked in an extremely detail-oriented environment my presentations were twice as long. My mentor at the time told me “don’t have that level of detail with any other group — but feel free to include it for this one.”

Wendy P. 

[brenthutch 444]

On 11/2/2022 at 9:32 PM, Phil1111 said:

Distrust of government is an acid on democracy. The distrust is strengthened by disinformation, fraudulent litigation about elections. In a week a new torrent of false claims, litigation and righteous indignation is coming.

Yes you're screwed and the stacked SC will be free come January.

If election denying candidates are a threat to Democracy, why did the Democrats give them $53,000,000 to support their campaigns?

[jakee 1,594]

1 hour ago, airdvr said:

Recording systems? Is that the case here?  The monitors in Epstein's cell don't record?

See, why do you do this? What do you expect me to say when you know that I know you’re not replying to the reality of what I said? 

[jakee 1,594]

1 hour ago, airdvr said:

See this is what the jugheads get up in arms about.  Question anything and be met with a barrage of snarkiness.

I said I hope we see that video some day.  I never said I had a right to it.

You said you questioned the lack of video. You strongly implied that without it you’re justified in questioning whether any part of it is true. You questioned the glass from the window being in the ‘wrong’ place but claim you never suggested anything was faked. So what ARE you saying that has any basis in the reality we share?

1 hour ago, airdvr said:

One thing I've learned over the years (and from raising children)...the more detailed the explanation the more chance there is that it's bullshit.

How complicated is the Pelosi’s have more important things to worry about than showing you a crazy person breaking into their home? Again, in reality that is a very simple statement. A conspiracy with the Pelosis hiding the truth, 2 police forces complicit and the suspect not being exactly what his online presence appears to be is far more complicated. 
Again, that’s just reality.

Edited November 4, 2022 by jakee

[ryoder 1,590]

I don't see anyone mentioning that the police have body camera footage of the perp actually striking Pelosi with the hammer.

Pelosi family set to view police body camera video of assault on Paul Pelosi

That includes footage of the actual hammer strike by suspect David Wayne DePape that sent Paul Pelosi to the hospital to have surgery on his fractured skull and injured hand and arm. He is still recovering at San Francisco General as of Wednesday evening.

[billvon 3,111]

11 minutes ago, ryoder said:

I don't see anyone mentioning that the police have body camera footage of the perp actually striking Pelosi with the hammer.

Pelosi family set to view police body camera video of assault on Paul Pelosi

That includes footage of the actual hammer strike by suspect David Wayne DePape that sent Paul Pelosi to the hospital to have surgery on his fractured skull and injured hand and arm. He is still recovering at San Francisco General as of Wednesday evening.

I am guessing the next spin will be "but that's after his gay lover had a quarrel with him."

[lippy 918]

2 hours ago, brenthutch said:

If election denying candidates are a threat to Democracy, why did the Democrats give them $53,000,000 to support their campaigns?

Per your S.O.P. you didn't specify what you're talking about, but I'm assuming you mean how some Democrats boosted the primary campaigns of some of the fringier GOP candidates in hopes of having an easier opponent in the general.  

A risky/potentially problematic strategy to be sure, but on the tiny chance that you actually wanted an answer to your question, that's the reason....

[JoeWeber 2,937]

4 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

Hence the legitimate belief that we're all doomed and a case of Scotch is the only remedy.

Might I recommend the Glenfarclas 25? Best value in fine aged scotch there is, in my opinion.

[JerryBaumchen 1,466]

9 hours ago, airdvr said:

Not saying it was faked.  I am saying there is possibly more to the story than will be revealed.

Hi airdvr,

You now sound exactly like Donald Trump.

I think it is time to wake up & face reality.

Jerry Baumchen

[JerryBaumchen 1,466]

5 hours ago, airdvr said:

My point is the lack of video recording.  I think there's a strong possibility Epstein was "suicided" by an individual or individuals he could hurt the most.  Some pretty powerful folks making the flights.  History is loaded with the extreme steps those in power will take to remain in power.

Pelosi's home is recorded by Capital Police.  If there is video of a break-in it ought to be easy enough to see.  The internet is lousy with that type of video.  A simple clip of the perp smashing the windows is all it would take.

I would really love to see that video.  Perhaps we never will but it might go a long way towards shutting down some of the useful idiots.

Hi airdvr,

And when the Warren Comm. finished their work, LBJ signed 'something' so that no one alive at that time could ever see it.  That includes me.

Do you think LBJ was a conspirator?

Jerry Baumchen

[wmw999 2,587]

2 hours ago, lippy said:

but on the tiny chance that you actually wanted an answer to your question,

Umm, yeah.

Wendy P. 

[airdvr 210]

Odd behavior from someone who's home has been broken into.

 

[wmw999 2,587]

I can’t watch video right now, but why is it so unlikely that someone who has been threatening Pelosi should go to her house with the intention to attack? And why is it so unlikely that he should then attack her husband? Do you think it’s more likely he hit himself with the hammer? Or more likely that he’s trying to get Ms Pelosi to quit and come home and be a good wifey?

Youre reacting to stories specifically designed to cast doubt. Like the ones calling COVID no worse than the common cold. Like the ones that said masking is dangerous. Like the ones that say 61 out of 62 election trials came to incorrect verdicts.

Don’t you resent being manipulated like that? Google it for yourself, but look at sites like Wikipedia, AP, and Politifact along with ones like fucknancy.com, OAN, and Fox

Wendy P. 

[riggerrob 643]

On 11/3/2022 at 11:48 AM, ryoder said:

Build the wall! On the Northern border!

When Trump was in power, Canadians were busy stacking snow blocks along the border.

[JoeWeber 2,937]

14 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

I can’t watch video right now, but why is it so unlikely that someone who has been threatening Pelosi should go to her house with the intention to attack? And why is it so unlikely that he should then attack her husband? Do you think it’s more likely he hit himself with the hammer? Or more likely that he’s trying to get Ms Pelosi to quit and come home and be a good wifey?

Youre reacting to stories specifically designed to cast doubt. Like the ones calling COVID no worse than the common cold. Like the ones that said masking is dangerous. Like the ones that say 61 out of 62 election trials came to incorrect verdicts.

Don’t you resent being manipulated like that? Google it for yourself, but look at sites like Wikipedia, AP, and Politifact along with ones like fucknancy.com, OAN, and Fox

Wendy P. 

So I googled it and, in addition to some interesting pop-up's, fucknancy.com is available. Anybody looking for a recession proof gig should think about it.