brenthutch 444 #1 Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-twitter-inc-technology-social-media-1a9005b6653b07b5764ed61053554d1f Musk looking at 75% staff reduction. Fewer gatekeepers = more free speech, IMHO, a good thing. Edited October 21, 2022 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,867 #2 October 21, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, brenthutch said: https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-twitter-inc-technology-social-media-1a9005b6653b07b5764ed61053554d1f Musk looking at 75% staff reduction. Fewer gatekeepers = more free speech, IMHO, a good thing. I'm thinking you don't have any IMHO's. Edited October 21, 2022 by JoeWeber 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,559 #3 October 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, brenthutch said: Fewer gatekeepers = more free speech, IMHO, a good thing. What do you consider to be free speech? Do you include bullying, doxing, and the like? Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,867 #4 October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, wmw999 said: What do you consider to be free speech? Do you include bullying, doxing, and the like? Wendy P. Sure it does, as long as the correct people are chosen. Seems to me that announcing that 75% of the work force is scheduled for the guillotine might just inspire a few Twitter Nutters with options to look past the stock price and more towards suddenly being opposed to the sale. If so, it's a brilliant play. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #5 October 21, 2022 75%?? Hmm, interesting way to try and sink a company. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 490 #6 October 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, Stumpy said: 75%?? Hmm, interesting way to try and sink a company. "Increase revenue by cutting 75% of staff" Profits, maybe, but I think this will be as effective in increasing revenue as Liz Truss' strategy of "growing the UK economy". 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #7 October 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, wmw999 said: What do you consider to be free speech? Wendy P. Being able to discuss the business dealings of the First Family, the origins of covid, the efficacy of vaccines, and the security of our election systems to name a few. Not allowing questions to be asked, brings up even more questions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,867 #8 October 21, 2022 35 minutes ago, brenthutch said: Being able to discuss the business dealings of the First Family, the origins of covid, the efficacy of vaccines, and the security of our election systems to name a few. Not allowing questions to be asked, brings up even more questions. Excellent. Now in addition to all else you're an election denier. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,559 #9 October 21, 2022 Maybe someone should found a Twitter for conspiracy theorists. Call it TwitterCon or something like that. Wendy P. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,089 #10 October 21, 2022 2 hours ago, brenthutch said: Fewer gatekeepers = more free speech, IMHO, a good thing. Don't think you are very clear on the concept of free speech. Free speech is not "the government should force Facebook to carry any messages I want for free." And in any case, fewer gatekeepers = more automated processes that reject posts if they see keywords. Try arguing with an algorithm. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #11 October 21, 2022 37 minutes ago, billvon said: Don't think you are very clear on the concept of free speech. Free speech is not "the government should force Facebook to carry any messages I want for free." And in any case, fewer gatekeepers = more automated processes that reject posts if they see keywords. Try arguing with an algorithm. Who said anything about Facebook? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,571 #12 October 21, 2022 3 hours ago, brenthutch said: Musk looking at 75% staff reduction. Fewer gatekeepers = more free speech, IMHO, a good thing. It is mind boggling that you think those two things are related. Though I’m not surprised to see you celebrating mass job losses. If it happens of course - Elon Musk says a lot of shit and a lot of it is bullshit. Enjoy the infestation of spambots if it does happen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #13 October 21, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, brenthutch said: Being able to discuss the business dealings of the First Family, the origins of covid, the efficacy of vaccines, and the security of our election systems to name a few. Not allowing questions to be asked, brings up even more questions. I see those being discussed on twitter all the time. However, I don't understand how you can argue that a baker should be allowed to refuse to bake cakes for gay people, but Twitter is not allowed to moderate content? Edited October 21, 2022 by SkyDekker 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #14 October 21, 2022 4 hours ago, brenthutch said: ....Fewer gatekeepers = more free speech, IMHO, a good thing. Does this mean that you and Slim have finally found a home? To voice your opinions unhindered by "time outs" from overbearing moderators? We will all miss you both. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,089 #15 October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: Who said anything about Facebook? It was an example. Note that Twitter and Facebook are both social media platforms. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lippy 918 #16 October 21, 2022 5 hours ago, wmw999 said: Maybe someone should found a Twitter for conspiracy theorists. Call it TwitterCon or something like that. Wendy P. TwitterCon doesn’t really roll off the tongue. What about ‘Truth Social’? 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistercwood 287 #17 October 22, 2022 An hour ago I saw a reply to a tweet that summed up as "Jews are genetically incapable of not wanting to fuck kids" and that kind of theme was the bulk of their account history, so yeah less moderation sounds A++ Good if that's the tribe you wanna fall in with I guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #18 October 22, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, SkyDekker said: I see those being discussed on twitter all the time. However, I don't understand how you can argue that a baker should be allowed to refuse to bake cakes for gay people, but Twitter is not allowed to moderate content? A transaction should be amenable to both parties, there are plenty of other bakeries that would be glad to have that business. BTW Twitter is allowed to put its finger on the scales of social media just as much as Musk will now be able to do now. ”Inside every progressive is a totalitarian just waiting to get out” Edited October 22, 2022 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lippy 918 #19 October 22, 2022 1 minute ago, brenthutch said: ”Inside every progressive is a totalitarian just waiting to get out” You just never tire of posting quotes without providing a source, do you... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,867 #20 October 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, brenthutch said: A transaction should be amenable to both parties, there are plenty of other bakeries that would be glad to have that business. Maybe. But what if the couple needed to travel 1000 miles or pay a $1000 premium as a penalty, would you still feel the same? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #21 October 22, 2022 3 hours ago, lippy said: TwitterCon doesn’t really roll off the tongue. What about ‘Truth Social’? Or 'Parler'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #22 October 22, 2022 17 minutes ago, lippy said: You just never tire of posting quotes without providing a source, do you... I thought is so self evident, I couldn’t have been the first one to think of it. So out of an abundance of caution I added the quotation marks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #23 October 22, 2022 15 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: Maybe. But what if the couple needed to travel 1000 miles or pay a $1000 premium as a penalty, would you still feel the same? But that is not the case…so…no. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,867 #24 October 22, 2022 1 minute ago, brenthutch said: But that is not the case…so…no. Non answer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #25 October 22, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: Non answer You were presenting a unrealistic “what if” scenario so it didn’t warrant a realistic response. Should a halal caterer be forced to provide food at a gay orgy? Edited October 22, 2022 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites