Dude, where are my hurricanes?

[brenthutch 444]

Well the books are closed for the 2022 hurricane season…and the results???

BELOW AVERAGE!!!

“The 2022 Atlantic Hurricane season ended with only 78% of the average ACE recorded compared to its 30-year climatology average ACE during the 1991-2020 period. The 2022 ACE level is 60% lower than occurred during the six-year period inclusive of 2016 through 2021 despite climate alarmism hyped propaganda the the world is experiencing a “climate emergency.”

 OTOH CO2 levels on the other hand continue to set records

https://www.co2.earth/daily-co2

Can we please finally dispense with the nonsensical notion that higher levels of CO2 cause more frequent and more powerful hurricanes?

Edited December 7, 2022 by brenthutch

[jakee 1,564]

44 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

“The 2022 Atlantic Hurricane season ended with only 78% of the average ACE recorded compared to its 30-year climatology average ACE during the 1991-2020 period. The 2022 ACE level is 60% lower than occurred during the six-year period inclusive of 2016 through 2021 despite climate alarmism hyped propaganda the the world is experiencing a “climate emergency.”

 

Huh? You’ve been claiming for a while now that Hurricane activity has been down for years. Yet that information shows that the last 6 years have been significantly above average. 
 

Which is, errr, consistent with the predictions you’re saying it’s not consistent with. Except your own BS one that every single year should be higher than the one before with no exceptions. Which is clearly daft.

[brenthutch 444]

2 hours ago, jakee said:

Huh? You’ve been claiming for a while now that Hurricane activity has been down for years. Yet that information shows that the last 6 years have been significantly above average. 
 

Which is, errr, consistent with the predictions you’re saying it’s not consistent with. Except your own BS one that every single year should be higher than the one before with no exceptions. Which is clearly daft.

No I have consistently said that higher levels of CO2 have not resulted in hurricane seasons outside of historical norms.

This may come as a shock to you, but half of hurricane seasons are above average, so a few above average years is nothing noteworthy.

 

Edited December 7, 2022 by brenthutch

[jakee 1,564]

6 hours ago, brenthutch said:

This may come as a shock to you, but half of hurricane seasons are above average, so a few above average years is nothing noteworthy.

Consider that half of hurricane seasons are below average and apply that logic to one year...

[billvon 3,080]

6 hours ago, brenthutch said:

This may come as a shock to you, but half of hurricane seasons are above average, so a few above average years is nothing noteworthy.

Coming from the guy who regularly says "it's cold this year so there's no global warming!" that's hilarious.

[brenthutch 444]

44 minutes ago, billvon said:

Coming from the guy who regularly says "it's cold this year so there's no global warming!" that's hilarious.

Fun fact, global temperatures for 2022 are set to be well cooler than 2012. One decade with no additional warming despite record levels of CO2.

[wmw999 2,551]

16 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Fun fact, global temperatures for 2022 are set to be well cooler than 2012. One decade with no additional warming despite record levels of CO2.

Whose data are you using? Because while, yes, this year is lower than last year, it kind of is because last year equaled the previous record (set a whole 3 years earlier!). reference

Now only going for the single data point that can be considered to support your argument, while ignoring all the others, is kind of the very definition of cherry-picking.

Wendy P.

[brenthutch 444]

17 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

Whose data are you using? Because while, yes, this year is lower than last year, it kind of is because last year equaled the previous record (set a whole 3 years earlier!). reference

Now only going for the single data point that can be considered to support your argument, while ignoring all the others, is kind of the very definition of cherry-picking.

Wendy P.

I would say that a decade is a nice tidy time span.  It’s funny that it was warmer 10 years ago and it was just “climate change” now it is cooler and it is “climate emergency”

As I have said before, the only thing getting hotter is the rhetoric.

[jakee 1,564]

12 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

I would say that a decade is a nice tidy time span.  It’s funny that it was warmer 10 years ago and it was just “climate change” now it is cooler and it is “climate emergency”

As I have said before, the only thing getting hotter is the rhetoric.

What is it you think you achieve by pretending not to understand what trends are, besides making everyone think you're a guy who doesn't understand what trends are?

[billvon 3,080]

 

30 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

I would say that a decade is a nice tidy time span

This may come as a shock to you, but a few above average years that are not AS FAR above average as other years is nothing noteworthy.

Quote

. It’s funny that it was warmer 10 years ago

2011 average temperature: .61C above average (1951-1980 mean)
2021 average temperature: .85C above average (1951-1980 mean)

To translate that from math, that means that it was colder 10 years ago,

https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/

It is very funny that you tried to get me with a "GOTCHA!" that ended up backfiring in your face (again.)

[gowlerk 2,253]

2 hours ago, jakee said:

What is it you think you achieve by pretending not to understand what trends are, besides making everyone think you're a guy who doesn't understand what trends are?

 

[brenthutch 444]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

 

This may come as a shock to you, but a few above average years that are not AS FAR above average as other years is nothing noteworthy.

2011 average temperature: .61C above average (1951-1980 mean)
2021 average temperature: .85C above average (1951-1980 mean)

To translate that from math, that means that it was colder 10 years ago,

https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/

It is very funny that you tried to get me with a "GOTCHA!" that ended up backfiring in your face (again.)

Except that it is 2022 and not 2021.

”swing and a miss, try again”

[kallend 2,112]

Has anyone noticed how the trolls seem to take turns?  One gets a "vacation" and another takes over.  It's almost like they're the same person.

[jakee 1,564]

11 hours ago, brenthutch said:

Except that it is 2022 and not 2021.

”swing and a miss, try again”

Right, because 5 years in a row of one thing is random chance, 1 year in a row of another thing is absolute proof positive of… oh who cares.

It’s not even worth the effort to make fun of you properly anymore because you do it so effectively yourself.

[lippy 918]

14 minutes ago, jakee said:

Right, because 5 years in a row of one thing is random chance, 1 year in a row of another thing is absolute proof positive of… oh who cares.

It’s not even worth the effort to make fun of you properly anymore because you do it so effectively yourself.

After a 1-month reset, he's back trotting out the same old horseshit

[Phil1111 1,149]

4 minutes ago, lippy said:

After a 1-month reset, he's back trotting out the same old horseshit

Being an old Alberta/Texas boy. You should know more than anyone. You can't teach an old horse new tricks. Brent is not capable of changing. He's been rode hard and put away wet so many times by the GOP. He can't change.

He returns to Parler, Truth Social, etc. Like a horse that found spilled oats in a spot a decade ago. Thinking that more oats will reappear. Its all he knows.

[Bigfalls 111]

17 hours ago, billvon said:

 

This may come as a shock to you, but a few above average years that are not AS FAR above average as other years is nothing noteworthy.

2011 average temperature: .61C above average (1951-1980 mean)
2021 average temperature: .85C above average (1951-1980 mean)

To translate that from math, that means that it was colder 10 years ago,

https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/

It is very funny that you tried to get me with a "GOTCHA!" that ended up backfiring in your face (again.)

Earth population 1950   2.5 billion

Earth population  2020   7.7 billion

Do you see a correlation to temperature.

Looks like we have a people problem.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

On 12/7/2022 at 6:21 AM, brenthutch said:

This may come as a shock to you, but half of hurricane seasons are above average,

Considering mode, median and mean are all forms of average.....I once again have to wonder if you could state your name without fucking it up.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

21 minutes ago, Bigfalls said:

Earth population 1950   2.5 billion

Earth population  2020   7.7 billion

Do you see a correlation to temperature.

Looks like we have a people problem.

Por que no los dos?

[brenthutch 444]

4 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

Being an old Alberta/Texas boy. You should know more than anyone. You can't teach an old horse new tricks. Brent is not capable of changing. He's been rode hard and put away wet so many times by the GOP. He can't change.

He returns to Parler, Truth Social, etc. Like a horse that found spilled oats in a spot a decade ago. Thinking that more oats will reappear. Its all he knows.

That’s funny, I have never been to either of those sites.  You keep trying to fit me into some Trump loving box however the facts are just not on your side.

[brenthutch 444]

44 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

Considering mode, median and mean are all forms of average.....I once again have to wonder if you could state your name without fucking it up.

Wow, another profanity laced reply from the peanut gallery.  Let me help you out Mr. Potty Mouth.

http://tropical.atmos.colostate.edu/Realtime/index.php?loc=northatlantic

[JerryBaumchen 1,446]

5 hours ago, lippy said:

After a 1-month reset, he's back trotting out the same old horseshit

Hi lippy,

When it is all you know, it is what you do.

Jerry Baumchen

Edited December 8, 2022 by JerryBaumchen

[JerryBaumchen 1,446]

1 hour ago, Bigfalls said:

Earth population 1950   2.5 billion

Earth population  2020   7.7 billion

Do you see a correlation to temperature.

Looks like we have a people problem.

Hi falls,

IMO it is not a 'Looks like.'  We very definitely have a 'people problem.'

Jerry Baumchen

[Bigfalls 111]

1 hour ago, SkyDekker said:

Por que no los dos?

It's probably hotter in Old El Paso.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

44 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Wow, another profanity laced reply from the peanut gallery.  Let me help you out Mr. Potty Mouth.

http://tropical.atmos.colostate.edu/Realtime/index.php?loc=northatlantic

That link provides absolutely no evidence that half of hurricane seasons are above average for each form of average.

 

Once again one has to ask themselves.....