olofscience 489 #226 October 20, 2022 (edited) 58 minutes ago, brenthutch said: Not quite, I skip the title and read the conclusion. Nope. Nice try. Bluffing as usual. Edited October 20, 2022 by olofscience Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #227 October 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, olofscience said: Nope. Be fair - he might read conclusions. Absolutely no chance he understands them though. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 489 #228 October 20, 2022 37 minutes ago, Stumpy said: Be fair - he might read conclusions. He rarely reads more than the title, so clearly reading takes huge effort for him. He interprets articles as supporting his point when they're the complete opposite. "War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength" - to him it's an instruction manual, not a cautionary tale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,558 #229 October 20, 2022 Play the topic, not the person. Your one warning. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bigfalls 111 #230 October 20, 2022 4 hours ago, brenthutch said: No, it drains and evaporates without killing lots of folks. That's all fine and dandy unless you live down stream. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #231 October 20, 2022 15 minutes ago, wmw999 said: Play the topic, not the person. Your one warning. Wendy P. Without your citing the post to which you're responding I can only guess as to its content. Having said that, given that a very large amount of the interaction here is one variation of ad hominem or another, where do you draw the line? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #232 October 20, 2022 15 hours ago, SkyDekker said: Kossin Kossin Emanuel 4 hours ago, brenthutch said: No, it drains and evaporates without killing lots of folks. 4 hours ago, olofscience said: translation: Brent couldn't read the paper. Didn't make it past the title. edit: and also: as a consequence of the above - he doesn't have any idea whether they're conclusive or not. Nah, just classic trolling at work. With success. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,859 #233 October 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, winsor said: Without your citing the post to which you're responding I can only guess as to its content. Having said that, given that a very large amount of the interaction here is one variation of ad hominem or another, where do you draw the line? In this case it's drawn at natural variation, of course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #234 October 20, 2022 4 hours ago, brenthutch said: As I thought, nothing conclusive. That isn't what you thought, or at least not what you questioned. Let me repeat it for you, if scrolling back up is too hard for you: "are you still getting your “science” from left wing media?" Which really brings us back to a frequently posed question, all the best people are asking it: can you state your name without fucking it up? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #235 October 20, 2022 47 minutes ago, winsor said: Without your citing the post to which you're responding I can only guess as to its content. Having said that, given that a very large amount of the interaction here is one variation of ad hominem or another, where do you draw the line? It's not entirely clear which rules and guidelines are still in play. Trolling is clearly not prohibited any more, although I had noticed the most recent overt troll seems to have disappeared in the last few days, so maybe there are SOME limits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,088 #236 October 20, 2022 6 hours ago, brenthutch said: No, it drains and evaporates without killing lots of folks. Meanwhile, here in reality: At least 43 are dead after Ida causes flooding in four states At least 43 people were killed, many of them in basement apartments, in a storm caused by the remnants of a hurricane that struck New Orleans days earlier. The deluge of rain on Wednesday — more than half a foot fell in just a few hours — turned streets and subway platforms into rivers. Emergency responders in boats rescued people from the rooftops of cars. Hundreds of people were evacuated from trains and subways. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/09/02/nyregion/nyc-storm#ida-new-york-flood Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 489 #237 October 20, 2022 2 hours ago, wmw999 said: Play the topic, not the person. I'm actually interested in hearing his justification for his conclusion, mainly: what his criticism of the papers were (methodology, equipment, sample size, etc?) what his criteria for "conclusive" was (p<0.05?) But I expect he won't be saying anything, for obvious reasons. As for the discussion I wasn't attacking him, I was just backing up my hypothesis (that he didn't read it) with evidence. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,115 #238 October 20, 2022 7 hours ago, wmw999 said: Play the topic, not the person. Your one warning. Wendy P. Enforce the site rules about trolling then. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,859 #239 October 21, 2022 9 hours ago, billvon said: Meanwhile, here in reality: At least 43 are dead after Ida causes flooding in four states At least 43 people were killed, many of them in basement apartments, in a storm caused by the remnants of a hurricane that struck New Orleans days earlier. The deluge of rain on Wednesday — more than half a foot fell in just a few hours — turned streets and subway platforms into rivers. Emergency responders in boats rescued people from the rooftops of cars. Hundreds of people were evacuated from trains and subways. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/09/02/nyregion/nyc-storm#ida-new-york-flood Speaking of reality: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murps2000 86 #240 October 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: Speaking of reality: Hubble vs Webb. Reality is quite informative when viewed in lower wavelengths. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,088 #241 October 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: Speaking of reality: I see a llama. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,859 #242 October 21, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, murps2000 said: Hubble vs Webb. Reality is quite informative when viewed in lower wavelengths. Yep. I've been tripping on the different pics tonight. Not to party stomp but it makes me think how impossibly short lived our silly civilization will likely be and, in deference to my betters, how akin our existence is to a Rorschach Blot. Edited October 21, 2022 by JoeWeber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murps2000 86 #243 October 21, 2022 51 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: Yep. I've been tripping on the different pics tonight. Not to party stomp but it makes me think how impossibly short lived our silly civilization will likely be and, in deference to my betters, how akin our existence is to a Rorschach Blot. Understandable sentiment when looking at “baby” stars that are maybe five times as old as homosapiens. At least in our corner of the ‘verse we can know we made a difference. We’ll have created quite a layer of cow & chicken fossils to mark the anthropocene. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lippy 918 #244 October 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, Slim King said: L@@K.. Shiny objects in space!!!!! Meanwhile back on planet earth I see no Hurricanes on the horizon. This is a couple of weeks old but I love this guy's logic and factual presentation. Wish I could have posted earlier. https://rumble.com/v1mwzl1-chances-of-being-hit-by-a-major-hurricane.html Things not learned by Slim during his vacation: - How to spell the word 'Look' - That rumble.com is a far-right clickbait site that nobody with critical thinking skills will ever take seriously 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lippy 918 #245 October 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Slim King said: You do make an old man smile Lippy .... I love spelling L@@K like that .. I have for decades. You can always get Tony Heller's video's on realclimatescience.com He's been there for 14 years with his little dog Toto. Pulling back the curtain on junk science.... Well, at least we agree that realclimatescience.com is the place to go for the latest in junk science... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,088 #246 October 23, 2022 41 minutes ago, Slim King said: You do make an old man smile Lippy .... I love spelling L@@K like that .. I have for decades. You can always get Tony Heller's video's on realclimatescience.com Quoting a science denial site to try to argue against the science of climate change is like quoting Osama bin Laden to argue against terrorism. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,115 #247 October 23, 2022 Seems we have Orlene and Roslyn right now. Ros is Cat 4. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #248 October 23, 2022 3 hours ago, kallend said: Seems we have Orlene and Roslyn right now. Ros is Cat 4. https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/?cpac Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,558 #249 October 23, 2022 2 hours ago, brenthutch said: https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/?cpac Well I guess as long as it's not threatening Hawaii at this particular moment it doesn't exist? Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #250 October 23, 2022 6 hours ago, Slim King said: As the season draws to an end... Did we have more or less hurricanes than average? Are we in Crisis? The only thing in crisis is the narrative that higher levels of CO2 will result in more frequent tropical cyclones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites