HoracioStjeward 0 #1 October 31, 2014 Hi there, My name is Horacio Stjeward and i am currently on of the only two skydivers in Suriname. Skydiving was for me a live long dream, and frustration, because the sport is virtually non existent in Suriname Lats year i got my STL license from a visiting group of dutch instructors. My plan was to travel to the U.S. get my A license, purchase a used rig, come back to Suriname, and promote the sport my self. I figured if they see on guy jumping the rest will follow. But.... then my wife got pregnant. And now with my 1 month old baby lying next to me, skydiving still has a special place in my life, but not no. 1 anymore Any ways, Here is a simple outline of my plan for Suriname. Step 1 - Secure a Airplane Step 2 - Secure a Dropzone Step 3 - Find a instructor to train a minimum of 4 jumpers to a level were they can do simple demo jumps Step 4- Present these demo jumpers to the 5 big company's and secure sponsoring Step 5 - Grab a cold beer and watch the sport grow What do you guys think, an if there is anybody that can help please let me know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,488 #2 October 31, 2014 Perhaps you haven't been to Saramacca? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzgwL1jwBQo https://nl-nl.facebook.com/SkydiveFree2FlySurinameNobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HoracioStjeward 0 #3 October 31, 2014 My friend there is no instructor in Suriname, i received my training at saramacca. The Skydive free to fly crew is only her for 10 days each year. And they don't do AFF lessons. You go on the Facebook link, i am the only one still posting. I am also the one with the black number 16 helmet on the FB page. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EuJ3oNTUzg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,488 #4 October 31, 2014 Thank you for the clarification. Have you considered lining up enough AFF students that would make it lucrative for the Dutch to bring an AFF/I down for training for ten days to train several through their A license? There is a DZ in Texas that can get people an A license in a week (Spaceland). You might also consider what we did back in the day... we didn't have profit centers - we had a trailer, a field, members with rigs who showed up, and someone had a friend who was a pilot with a plane. We threw up some tents for the evening and if available used an old building as a packing shed and DZ's were built from there up. Just a few years ago, I did a Demo out of a 172. No step, the pilot put the brakes on so I could use the wheel to launch. Point is: You don't have to go big. Keep trying and you'll succeed. It's good to have dreams, but you have to start somewhere. Good Luck.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HoracioStjeward 0 #5 October 31, 2014 BIGUNThank you for the clarification. Have you considered lining up enough AFF students that would make it lucrative for the Dutch to bring an AFF/I down for training for ten days to train several through their A license? There is a DZ in Texas that can get people an A license in a week (Spaceland). You might also consider what we did back in the day... we didn't have profit centers - we had a trailer, a field, members with rigs who showed up, and someone had a friend who was a pilot with a plane. We threw up some tents for the evening and if available used an old building as a packing shed and DZ's were built from there up. Just a few years ago, I did a Demo out of a 172. No step, the pilot put the brakes on so I could use the wheel to launch. Point is: You don't have to go big. Keep trying and you'll succeed. It's good to have dreams, but you have to start somewhere. Good Luck. Yes, i have 4 guys who are ready and about 7 more who are eager to jump but need to make up there minds. Problem whit the dutch is the travel shipping / expense. Tickets to Suriname can get as high as 3000 euros. I have a old but still operational airfield at my disposal (courtesy of ALCOA) Complete with housing and a bar. i have a Cessna 172 and the owner is willing to mount a step Yes.. the dropzone.com community is my starting point. And i will succeed, failure has never been a option in my live.Quote Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites HoracioStjeward 0 #6 November 2, 2014 Great in put [Iago], never tough about the Tandem option. Suriname is a small country but booming, economy wise. I am not aiming for a booming business and making profit. Just want to get jumping. i am thinking of heaving the start up phase sponsored by big company's, this will include, Airplane rental an purchasing of gear. If the jumpers start with Progressive static-line training, will the cost still be high? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RiggerLee 63 #7 November 2, 2014 The cost is not that different. There are some advantages to a static line progression. The first is that it's better suited to your plane. A 172 with the door removed and three jumpers, two AFF jumpmasters and a student will be struggling to get you above ten grand. It's really minimal for an AFF jump. It could however fly static line students and it would only have to struggle on the highest jumps. At that point you could put one out low and take only two people high. It's also much easier to support a growing static line program. It's much easier to create your own instructors. The requirements are much lower in terms of experience as a jumper. You don't have to have the same air skills that you are depending on in AFF and Tandem. If you can get a tandem instructor there are ways to use it as an instructional method that basically lets you bypass the two jumpmaster AFF levels. Again easier on the plane. It's an older idea and you don't see it much any more but it's how I was trained out of a 182. It's sort of a cross between tandem/SL/AFF. Another advantage of static line is that it creates a different sort of student then tandems or AFF. All though they are not as advanced in free fall skills they have more canopy time, are more self reliant, and in some ways have better survival skills. AFF is ACCELERATED FREE FALL It is a very minimal program that gives bare survival skills with minimal instruction time which is why there was a big push towards coaching programs and extended A licenses training. It also gave instructors and want to be instructor coaches a chance to mike more money out of students to support the ever growing cost of an expensive sport. But that's a different subject. Gear. If you don't listen to the stuck gear fags on this forum then you can find some older equipment that would be perfect for a young static line program. Rigs don't have to be "Free Fly Friendly" to do static line or even AFF. Vector 2's are great rigs. And you can get shit from that era cheap. Old fucking Mantas make great student canopies if you can find a rig that will hold them. Your also going to have to find a rigger. Maintenance will kill you if you don't keep up with it. You're going to need a rigger and a small loft. In the end you will need to grow one of your own and that can be done if you have some one willing to put in the work and study to do it. He'll probable have to travel over seas for a while to really learn. You can do this if you want to. LeeLee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites HoracioStjeward 0 #8 November 16, 2014 Yes... i totally agree. But i am not aiming for a commercial operation. Getting the general public to notice te sport is my main goal. It is going to cost me allot of time and money, but someone has to start. When i am talking about demo jumps, i am talking about regular landings on any save large open space, not stadiums and technically challenging jumps. Thanx to this wonderful community i am now at step 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites HoracioStjeward 0 #9 November 16, 2014 [RiggerLee] i am taking your advice with me. :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. 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HoracioStjeward 0 #6 November 2, 2014 Great in put [Iago], never tough about the Tandem option. Suriname is a small country but booming, economy wise. I am not aiming for a booming business and making profit. Just want to get jumping. i am thinking of heaving the start up phase sponsored by big company's, this will include, Airplane rental an purchasing of gear. If the jumpers start with Progressive static-line training, will the cost still be high? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RiggerLee 63 #7 November 2, 2014 The cost is not that different. There are some advantages to a static line progression. The first is that it's better suited to your plane. A 172 with the door removed and three jumpers, two AFF jumpmasters and a student will be struggling to get you above ten grand. It's really minimal for an AFF jump. It could however fly static line students and it would only have to struggle on the highest jumps. At that point you could put one out low and take only two people high. It's also much easier to support a growing static line program. It's much easier to create your own instructors. The requirements are much lower in terms of experience as a jumper. You don't have to have the same air skills that you are depending on in AFF and Tandem. If you can get a tandem instructor there are ways to use it as an instructional method that basically lets you bypass the two jumpmaster AFF levels. Again easier on the plane. It's an older idea and you don't see it much any more but it's how I was trained out of a 182. It's sort of a cross between tandem/SL/AFF. Another advantage of static line is that it creates a different sort of student then tandems or AFF. All though they are not as advanced in free fall skills they have more canopy time, are more self reliant, and in some ways have better survival skills. AFF is ACCELERATED FREE FALL It is a very minimal program that gives bare survival skills with minimal instruction time which is why there was a big push towards coaching programs and extended A licenses training. It also gave instructors and want to be instructor coaches a chance to mike more money out of students to support the ever growing cost of an expensive sport. But that's a different subject. Gear. If you don't listen to the stuck gear fags on this forum then you can find some older equipment that would be perfect for a young static line program. Rigs don't have to be "Free Fly Friendly" to do static line or even AFF. Vector 2's are great rigs. And you can get shit from that era cheap. Old fucking Mantas make great student canopies if you can find a rig that will hold them. Your also going to have to find a rigger. Maintenance will kill you if you don't keep up with it. You're going to need a rigger and a small loft. In the end you will need to grow one of your own and that can be done if you have some one willing to put in the work and study to do it. He'll probable have to travel over seas for a while to really learn. You can do this if you want to. LeeLee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HoracioStjeward 0 #8 November 16, 2014 Yes... i totally agree. But i am not aiming for a commercial operation. Getting the general public to notice te sport is my main goal. It is going to cost me allot of time and money, but someone has to start. When i am talking about demo jumps, i am talking about regular landings on any save large open space, not stadiums and technically challenging jumps. Thanx to this wonderful community i am now at step 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HoracioStjeward 0 #9 November 16, 2014 [RiggerLee] i am taking your advice with me. :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
