May’s Global Temperature coldest in 9 years

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

2 minutes ago, olofscience said:

Looks like there's a liberal living rent-free in this one's head...

Well, it would be an imaginary 'liberal'.

Because I'm not aware of any credible sources claiming that '1/3 of Florida would be underwater' by now.

If the Antarctic ice cap melts, then yes. 
But while it is melting, and fairly quickly (on a global time scale), it has a long way to go.

[olofscience 492]

19 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Well, it would be an imaginary 'liberal'.

Yep, should have specified the "imaginary" part. Thanks.

[Phil1111 1,176]

33 minutes ago, olofscience said:

Looks like there's a liberal living rent-free in this one's head...

Crap, anything living there is paying a horrific price.

[Phil1111 1,176]

32 minutes ago, Slim King said:

Looks like the Polar bears are loving all the extra ice...  13 year record for extra ice!!!!!! Facts are fun... https://climate-science.press/2022/08/28/last-wh-polar-bears-ashore-even-later-than-2009-as-hudson-bay-finally-becomes-ice-free/

Figure 3. Monthly June ice extent for 1979 to 2022 shows a decline of 3.9 percent per decade. "Based on the linear trend, since 1979, June has lost 1.97 million square kilometers (761,000 square miles) of sea ice. This is equivalent to about three times the size of Texas...Most of the high-latitude Arctic Ocean was within a degree of the 1981 to 2010 average temperature. Temperatures in Scandinavia, Svalbard, and northern European Russia were generally 2 to 3 degrees Celsius (4 to 5 degrees Fahrenheit) above average (Figure 2b). The Hudson Bay region is also warm with temperatures 4 to 5 degrees Celsius (7 to 9 degrees Fahrenheit) above average.."

"As of August 16, Antarctic sea ice extent was tracking below all previous years.. air temperatures at the 925 millibar level have been as much as 7 degrees Celsius (13 degrees Fahrenheit) above average the first two weeks of August,."

Brent you're posting the same false junk science stuff from the same junk science sites you've posted before.

[brenthutch 444]

22 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Brent you're posting the same false junk science stuff from the same junk science sites you've posted before.

I didn’t post that, but thank you for showing us that we have more Arctic sea ice now than we did a decade ago.

[jakee 1,594]

7 hours ago, Slim King said:

Al Gore said it many times ... Plus here is an article published 15 years ago showing what they said Florida was doomed to be ... Liberals have been pushing this nonsense for over 15 years now and Florida is still here...

A) That’s some random guy’s blog.

B ) It’s speculation about what could happen, not a prediction of what would happen.

C) Even the guy you’re citing as proof of liberal propaganda really specifically and clearly states that the liberal media is not saying anything about it.

[kallend 2,147]

Trolling violates forum rules. Why are the trolls still here?

[gowlerk 2,275]

2 minutes ago, kallend said:

Trolling violates forum rules. Why are the trolls still here?

Because the forum has become so small and has so few participants now that without the trolls there would be nothing to say. 

[jakee 1,594]

1 hour ago, Slim King said:

The mockingbird media says something EVERY DAY!!!!!! Ramming it down our throats ... Such a shame.

Oh indeed the media says something every day. How very perceptive of you. 

But what about the specific thing that your own source says they don't mention?

[brenthutch 444]

10 hours ago, kallend said:

Trolling violates forum rules. Why are the trolls still here?

It’s really sad that the way you deal with intellectual discourse is through invective.  That said, to answer your question, if it were not for me and a few like minded souls, this forum would devolve into a left wing circle jerk.

 

[wmw999 2,587]

And coming in here and calling people sheeple and morons is such an excellent way to get them onboard with what you’re thinking.

Wendy P. 

[JoeWeber 2,938]

2 hours ago, brenthutch said:

It’s really sad that the way you deal with intellectual discourse is through invective.  That said, to answer your question, if it were not for me and a few like minded souls, this forum would devolve into a left wing circle jerk.

 

The difference between us left wing circle jerkers and you and your like minded souls is the variety of topics we find interesting. 

[olofscience 492]

10 hours ago, Slim King said:

The phony corrupt scientists

...and on the other side, we have the cash-strapped, plucky, oil company executives fighting against this massive conspiracy!

Those greedy scientists. All they care about is money, unlike those oil company executives, who genuinely care about the truth.

/s

[brenthutch 444]

9 hours ago, wmw999 said:

And coming in here and calling people sheeple and morons is such an excellent way to get them onboard with what you’re thinking.

Wendy P. 

When did I ever do that?  I don’t think I have ever used those terms on this forum.  If my arguments, supported by evidence, make you feel foolish, then that’s on you.

[jakee 1,594]

2 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

When did I ever do that?  I don’t think I have ever used those terms on this forum.  If my arguments, supported by evidence, make you feel foolish, then that’s on you.

If you think that has ever been the case, that’s on you.

[wmw999 2,587]

That's right up there with a parent spanking their kid, and telling them "this hurts me more than it hurts you." The speaker is not, in fact, the center of the universe.

Also, I didn't name anyone -- if my comment made you feel uncomfortable, maybe it's on you.

Wendy P.

[brenthutch 444]

9 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

The difference between us left wing circle jerkers and you and your like minded souls is the variety of topics we find interesting. 

Pregnant men and the dangers of hundred year old statues?

[SkyDekker 1,465]

2 hours ago, brenthutch said:

Pregnant men and the dangers of hundred year old statues?

What is the danger of a pregnant man?

And of the statues don't stand for anything, then it wouldn't matter they are getting removed.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

24 minutes ago, Slim King said:

I understand why the Democrats want to get rid of the statues of Democrat Slave owners. 350,000 Republicans died to free the slaves so It does look embarrassing to idolize the Democrats who killed them.

And independents/libertarians were irrelevant as always. Must be tough to have never played a role in anything.

[JoeWeber 2,938]

3 hours ago, brenthutch said:

Pregnant men and the dangers of hundred year old statues?

You cling to old traditions like a child clings to their doll. In a thousand years the ancient traditions that shape todays concepts of gender and gender bending will be history, and the emblems of our racist past will be piles of dust not just toppled. Some of us, when we see a bend in the road ahead slow down for the turn. Others, too narcotized by the ease of a straight road, maintain speed and hope there isn't a cliff. You wore the nations uniform for 20 years, ostensibly, to guarantee everyones freedom to live a free life, not just you. Crying now because societal trends caused by the will of a majority of the free people you served don't suit you is, well, babyish. 

I am not certain that humanity will bake, boil, simmer, freeze or be washed away to extinction by 1000 days of rains and floods in the next 100 years but I am absolutely certain of one thing: humanity will not advance to game changing levels of technological advancement, and perhaps our salvation, using only the energy derived from fossil fuels. Nor will we achieve any of the loftier goals of peaceful brother and sisterhood by defining for our fellows how they should see themselves. You know, to each their own.

[billvon 3,111]

On 8/30/2022 at 10:45 AM, Slim King said:

I understand why the Democrats want to get rid of the statues of Democrat Slave owners. 350,000 Republicans died to free the slaves so It does look embarrassing to idolize the Democrats who killed them.

Back then those republicans were the educated city liberals and the democrats were the rural "I love the uneducated" types.

[jakee 1,594]

Since there won’t be any Republicans or Democrats from the 1850s running in the next set of elections it’s a bit of a moot point really. More of a ‘what have you done for me lately’ kinda deal now.

Edited September 1, 2022 by jakee

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

On 9/1/2022 at 2:26 AM, billvon said:

Back then those republicans were the educated city liberals and the democrats were the rural "I love the uneducated" types.

Yup. Heather Cox Richardson has done an excellent job of making this clear.

Back then, the Ds were the party that wanted an 'elite' group of 'leaders' to make all the decisions. 
The 'uneducated masses' would be compliant slaves to them. 

The 'southern Democrats' had a lock on the politics. Elections were not technically rigged, but the outcome was never in doubt.

After LBJ decided that 'those people' should have rights, and passed federal legislation toward that end, the 'old school' racists lost their shit (remember Wallace 'standing in the door'?)

Once they realized that the Ds had more or less stopped supporting racism, the Rs took advantage, shifted their positions on a lot of things and took the south.

[kallend 2,147]

On 8/31/2022 at 11:26 PM, billvon said:

Back then those republicans were the educated city liberals and the democrats were the rural "I love the uneducated" types.

Thank Nixon for the switch, enthusiastically embraced by Reagan. 

[gowlerk 2,275]

2 hours ago, kallend said:

Thank Nixon for the switch, enthusiastically embraced by Reagan. 

The mad genius who opened up China?