Hunter Biden Laptop

[wmw999 2,560]

I find it interesting that people just can't imagine that the children of someone they generally disagree with (Hunter Biden, any Trump offspring) can ever do the right thing because it's right, and they equally assume that the offspring of someone they generally agree with (likewise) is likely to do the right thing.

Gosh, maybe that's what privilege looks like.

Wendy P.

[brenthutch 444]

34 minutes ago, jakee said:

Absolutely. Burisma tried to get a piece of the action with Hunter Biden. So what?

 

 

35 minutes ago, jakee said:

You appear to be confused. We were talking about Hunter Biden. That article is about not Hunter Biden.

Kudos for recognising Tesla's immense success story though.

Hunter was a shareholder in Fisker 

https://investigativeresearchcenter.org/hunter-biden-listed-as-fisker-creditor-raising-questions-about-green-energy-boondoggle/

Edited March 19, 2022 by brenthutch

[jakee 1,571]

16 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

I find it interesting that people just can't imagine that the children of someone they generally disagree with (Hunter Biden, any Trump offspring) can ever do the right thing because it's right, and they equally assume that the offspring of someone they generally agree with (likewise) is likely to do the right thing.

To be honest I haven't seen anyone who thinks Hunter`Biden has done the right thing, and certainly not for the right reasons. But Hunter Biden wasn't up for election and isn't part of the Administration.

[jakee 1,571]

2 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Hunter was a shareholder in Fisker 

Once again, that is not true. Even Breitbart says so.

[brenthutch 444]

4 minutes ago, jakee said:

Once again, that is not true. Even Breitbart says so.

Stakeholder 

Edited March 19, 2022 by brenthutch

[jakee 1,571]

2 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Stakeholder 

Still no.

Edited March 19, 2022 by jakee

[billvon 3,090]

8 minutes ago, jakee said:

Still no.

"He ran Fisker.  OK, he was just an employee.  Wait. what?  Well, he was shareholder.  No, he was a stakeholder.  No?  Well he followed them closely.  What?  Look, he once walked by the building and there is photographic proof, see?  I WIN!"

[brenthutch 444]

8 minutes ago, billvon said:

"He ran Fisker.  OK, he was just an employee.  Wait. what?  Well, he was shareholder.  No, he was a stakeholder.  No?  Well he followed them closely.  What?  Look, he once walked by the building and there is photographic proof, see?  I WIN!"

Creditors owed money by Fisker quickly lined up. Documents show they include notable names such as Leonardo DiCaprio, Al Gore, BMW, Andre Agassi, and Robert “Hunter” Biden – the vice president’s son.

 

[jakee 1,571]

10 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Creditors owed money by Fisker quickly lined up. Documents show they include notable names such as Leonardo DiCaprio, Al Gore, BMW, Andre Agassi, and Robert “Hunter” Biden – the vice president’s son.

Does putting a deposit on an F150 make you a stakeholder in Ford? 

 

By the way, even given your version of events how exactly does this constitute pay to play in your mind? Hunter Biden gives them money and in return Joe Biden gives them more money? I don't think that's what the phrase means.

Edited March 19, 2022 by jakee

[brenthutch 444]

Just now, jakee said:

Does putting a deposit on an F150 make you a stakeholder in Ford? 

 

By the way, even given you version of events how exactly does this constitute pay to play in your mind? Hunter Biden gives them money and in return Joe Biden gives them more money? I don't think that's what the phrase means.

You are either being naive or willingly obtuse.  One does not become a multi millionaire by putting a deposit on a pickup truck.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/598635-hunter-biden-paid-off-tax-liability-amid-ongoing-grand-jury

 

[jakee 1,571]

7 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

You are either being naive or willingly obtuse.  One does not become a multi millionaire by putting a deposit on a pickup truck.

You don't do it by having a bankrupt company owe you money either, so what exactly is your point here?

By the way, multimillionaire? Says who? Your source says he needed a loan to pay his own taxes.

[billvon 3,090]

I'll bet a beer that in five years "but  . . . but . . . her emails" will be replaced by "but . . .  but . . . Hunter's laptop . . . "

[brenthutch 444]

19 minutes ago, jakee said:

You don't do it by having a bankrupt company owe you money either, so what exactly is your point here?

By the way, multimillionaire? Says who? Your source says he needed a loan to pay his own taxes.

Where do you think the millions of taxpayer dollars went?
He needs more than a million just to pay his tax liability. You do the math.

By all means continue to defend Hunter, I’m sure you will be vindicated in the end.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

3 hours ago, airdvr said:

Why is it so difficult to believe that your hero was involved in peddling influence and the MSM side stepped it?

Because it's a completely unbelievable set of circumstances.

On the flip side, why don't Trump supporters believe Trump was a Putin stooge, despite all the evidence?

[gowlerk 2,260]

1 hour ago, wolfriverjoe said:

On the flip side, why don't Trump supporters believe Trump was a Putin stooge, despite all the evidence?

They do. But they are okay with it.

[billvon 3,090]

3 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

They do. But they are okay with it.

We are already seeing the progression:

1) Trump didn't support Putin!
2) OK he said he supported him but what he really meant was X.
3) Obama did it first.

[wmw999 2,560]

Well, at least we’re past Clinton did it first…

Wendy P. 

[brenthutch 444]

2 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Because it's a completely unbelievable set of circumstances.

On the flip side, why don't Trump supporters believe Trump was a Putin stooge, despite all the evidence?

Do you mean how he berated European into spending more for defense, or do you mean how he provided Ukraine with lethal aid, or how he sanctioned Nordstrom 2, or how he warned Germany about its over dependence on Russian fossil fuels? 
BTW I am no fan of Trump, but facts are facts.

 

Edited March 20, 2022 by brenthutch

[jakee 1,571]

9 hours ago, brenthutch said:

Where do you think the millions of taxpayer dollars went?

$190M to create a car company from scratch is not very much money. Where did it go?

9 hours ago, brenthutch said:

By all means continue to defend Hunter, I’m sure you will be vindicated in the end.

Who's defending Hunter Biden? Hunter Biden is irrelevant - and don't think it's gone unnoticed that this Fisker sideshow is imply a distraction from the fact that you're unable to give us any reason why the laptop subject is anything but innuendo. You seem to have jumped directly from 'Hunter Biden's laptop is real' to 'therefore Joe Biden is corrupt' without actually doing any of the work inbetween.

You can't simply assume the Biden family does in private what the Trump family does in public and expect to convince anyone.

[BIGUN 1,440]

12 hours ago, jakee said:

So what?

"Ethics laws generally restrict gifts to legislators as a means of preventing the possibility that a gift could appear to improperly influence official action.

Many states place looser limits on gifts from friends and family than gifts from lobbyists or others with an interest in influencing a legislator. Gifts from family or close personal friends are commonly exempt from most restrictions.

Some ethics laws specify the maximum dollar value allowable of a gift, or the aggregate value of gifts that may be given in a year. The range of limits states use may be as low as a few dollars per gift or meal, or as much as a few hundred dollars aggregately per year.

The type of gift and circumstances in which it is given may determine a gift’s legality. Plaques, greeting cards, trophies, and other token gifts often are generally exempt from restrictions. A gift clearly motivated by personal friendship and unrelated to a legislator’s official position or duties will be exempt from restrictions in most states, as would emergency medical assistance. However, a gift conditioned upon a legislator taking a particular course of official action may be improper, regardless of the gift’s value."

~https://www.ncsl.org/research/ethics/50-state-table-gift-laws.aspx

https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-5/chapter-XVI/subchapter-B/part-2635/subpart-B/section-2635.204

We have all kinds of laws regarding gifts from vendors, countries, etc. As a federal & state contractor; I could not buy anyone in my food chain, spouse or kid's dinner over fifty bucks.  Even under fifty bucks could warrant a state or federal probe, so it just wasn't worth it.  Personally, I'm willing to wait to see how it all shakes out. Do we want that person one heartbeat away from the Presidency to take over.

[jakee 1,571]

1 hour ago, BIGUN said:

"Ethics laws generally restrict gifts to legislators as a means of preventing the possibility that a gift could appear to improperly influence official action.

Many states place looser limits on gifts from friends and family than gifts from lobbyists or others with an interest in influencing a legislator. Gifts from family or close personal friends are commonly exempt from most restrictions.

Some ethics laws specify the maximum dollar value allowable of a gift, or the aggregate value of gifts that may be given in a year. The range of limits states use may be as low as a few dollars per gift or meal, or as much as a few hundred dollars aggregately per year.

The type of gift and circumstances in which it is given may determine a gift’s legality. Plaques, greeting cards, trophies, and other token gifts often are generally exempt from restrictions. A gift clearly motivated by personal friendship and unrelated to a legislator’s official position or duties will be exempt from restrictions in most states, as would emergency medical assistance. However, a gift conditioned upon a legislator taking a particular course of official action may be improper, regardless of the gift’s value."

~https://www.ncsl.org/research/ethics/50-state-table-gift-laws.aspx

https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-5/chapter-XVI/subchapter-B/part-2635/subpart-B/section-2635.204

We have all kinds of laws regarding gifts from vendors, countries, etc. As a federal & state contractor; I could not buy anyone in my food chain, spouse or kid's dinner over fifty bucks.  Even under fifty bucks could warrant a state or federal probe, so it just wasn't worth it.  Personally, I'm willing to wait to see how it all shakes out. Do we want that person one heartbeat away from the Presidency to take over.

Again I ask, so what?

What legislators? What gifts? What are you talking about? 

[metalslug 36]

11 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said:

On the flip side, why don't Trump supporters believe Trump was a Putin stooge, despite all the evidence?

You mean the 'evidence' from Michael Sussmann, Igor Danchenko and the Steele document' ?   I'm no Trump supporter, but I like horseshyte smear campaigns even less.

[metalslug 36]

On 3/19/2022 at 4:42 AM, brenthutch said:

Now that Trump is safely out of the White House, the NYT admits the laptop belongs to Hunter.  

On 3/19/2022 at 6:10 PM, jakee said:

So what?

So 50 former intelligence officials have written “..this is Russia trying to influence how Americans vote in this election..." . Evidently these 50+ people believe that the laptop content could have been damaging to the Biden family and consequently the election outcome. With the tin-foil ushanka now removed....

[BIGUN 1,440]

4 hours ago, jakee said:

Again I ask, so what?

Answered. 

[jakee 1,571]

2 hours ago, BIGUN said:

Answered. 

You don't seriously believe that's true. Come on, just engage in a conversation like a normal person for once.

What legislators? What gifts? What are you talking about? 

Edited March 20, 2022 by jakee