Socialism v Capitalism

[JoeWeber 2,871]

4 minutes ago, airdvr said:

Absolutley.  It forced half of the change needed to insure there was no way forward but single payer.

BTW.  I have no doubt that the way we do single payer will be ripe with fraud and corruption.

Of course, otherwise there would be no reason to moderate your approval even if your humongous medical bills were being subsidized by cantaloupe pickers.

[airdvr 210]

1 minute ago, JoeWeber said:

Of course, otherwise there would be no reason to moderate your approval even if your humongous medical bills were being subsidized by cantaloupe pickers.

I'm sure it will look something like Medicare for All.

More snarky than normal this morning Joe.

[JoeWeber 2,871]

11 minutes ago, airdvr said:

I'm sure it will look something like Medicare for All.

More snarky than normal this morning Joe.

You toss big, fat softballs and you should expect a swing. I hope your heart issues resolve easily, for sure, but the bills can be huge and they say there are no atheists in foxholes. When it was my turn in the barrel for open heart surgery Medicare and my AARP supplement paid every penny. I was happy I supported the program all along.

[JerryBaumchen 1,451]

35 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

You toss big, fat softballs and you should expect a swing. I hope your heart issues resolve easily, for sure, but the bills can be huge and they say there are no atheists in foxholes. When it was my turn in the barrel for open heart surgery Medicare and my AARP supplement paid every penny. I was happy I supported the program all along.

Hi Joe,

IMO this is the problem.  I consider it a human thing.  Nobody cares about much of what happens to the other guy, until it happens to them. *

Re:   ripe with fraud and corruption

One has to wonder if Medicare is ripe with fraud and corruption.  For sure there is some; it is what it is.  However, as I say:  Show me one politician, of either party, who supports ending Medicare.  It would be political suicide.

Jerry Baumchen

*  Actually, not 'nobody' but an awful lot of people; particularly, those that are self-centered.

[wmw999 2,560]

1 hour ago, JerryBaumchen said:

One has to wonder if Medicare is ripe with fraud and corruption.  For sure there is some; it is what it is. 

Medicare isn't nearly as full of corruption as some medical providers are. And they're really good at milking the system. Much more so than the worse drug-seeking individual abusers by and large. Medicare can't catch all of them, and it would be cost-prohibitive to do so. But harder stomping on the ones that are found, preferably with lots of embarrassing publicity, might help.

Wendy P.

[jakee 1,571]

17 hours ago, airdvr said:

Absolutley.  It forced half of the change needed to insure there was no way forward but single payer.

Right, it’s amazing how quickly the Republican Party U-turned on something they’d always denounced as socialism once the Dems managed to show the country the benefits.

[JoeWeber 2,871]

17 hours ago, wmw999 said:

Medicare isn't nearly as full of corruption as some medical providers are. And they're really good at milking the system. Much more so than the worse drug-seeking individual abusers by and large. Medicare can't catch all of them, and it would be cost-prohibitive to do so. But harder stomping on the ones that are found, preferably with lots of embarrassing publicity, might help.

Wendy P.

That's the truth. Like McDonalds is a real estate company not a burger company so it goes with many medical practices: several doctors and a few offices in the same practice sort of thing. Sometimes they'll buy their own MRI, for example, make it it's own entity then refer you for an MRI. A different desk person in the same building but as a different business petitions insurance for approval. Lot's of ways to scam the system.