Coreece 190 #1 Posted January 2, 2022 https://www.dropzone.com/forums/topic/274531-why-do-fundamentalists-hate-america/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,454 #2 January 2, 2022 22 minutes ago, Coreece said: https://www.dropzone.com/forums/topic/274531-why-do-fundamentalists-hate-america/ Hi Coreece, Are you trying to actually say something? If so, what? I know of no Christian who hates me. I completely disagree with, what I think is, your premise. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,266 #3 January 2, 2022 (edited) I see. Because they have no real answer to the simple logic of atheism. Hate is what religion does best, so that is what it's practitioners go with. You seem to be hung up on how Christianity is affected. But it is only one of the many sources of religious hatred. And at it's core the hatred is just tribalism anyway. You don't really hate atheists, you hate being confronted with the bad side of religion. You are just another one of those who think people like me should just shut up and stop offending you. Classic snowflake. And now you would seem to be defending Ron's desire to overthrow the US constitution. For no other reason than that you feel akin to his religion. Edited January 2, 2022 by gowlerk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,096 #4 January 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: I know of no Christian who hates me. Yeah, and I can't think of any atheists I hate. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #5 January 2, 2022 1 hour ago, gowlerk said: You don't really hate atheists Nah, just like fundamentalists don't really hate America. 1 hour ago, gowlerk said: you hate being confronted with the bad side of religion. You were talking about the same silly presumptions about us setting up a theocracy and Zombies? I mean really, what do you want me to say to that, lol? It wasn't until Bill replied that there was any thing of substance in that thread to respond to. 1 hour ago, gowlerk said: You are just another one of those who think people like me should just shut up and stop offending you. Classic snowflake. If I really wanted to overthrow the constitution and set up a theocracy like you said, why would I be offended? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,266 #6 January 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Coreece said: Nah, just like fundamentalists don't really hate America. Correct. I was pointing out that Ron's ideas are counter to what America has traditionally stood for. And I'm not really sure that fundamentalist is the best description of his beliefs. 3 minutes ago, Coreece said: You were talking about the same silly presumptions about us setting up a theocracy and Zombies? No, I care little about what theocratic beliefs anyone holds. I only care about behaviors. Ron is advocating overthrowing the US government because he would prefer a different one. 6 minutes ago, Coreece said: If I really wanted to overthrow the constitution and set up a theocracy like you said, why would I be offended? I didn't say you did. I said you would like everyone to stop picking on your poor suppressed co-religionists. Ron is the one who seems to be pining for a theocracy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,131 #7 January 2, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Coreece said: You were talking about the same silly presumptions about us setting up a theocracy and Zombies? I mean really, what do you want me to say to that, lol? Zombie - a reincarnated corpse. Tell us about Jesus. Edited January 2, 2022 by kallend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,464 #8 January 2, 2022 52 minutes ago, kallend said: Tell us about Jesus. Perhaps William Daniel Phillips could explain it better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #9 January 2, 2022 26 minutes ago, Coreece said: If I really wanted to overthrow the constitution and set up a theocracy like you said, why would I be offended? I didn't say you did. I said you would like everyone to stop picking on your poor suppressed co-religionists. Ron is the one who seems to be pining for a theocracy. We've talked about this before, how you keep saying "seems to be this and seems to be that or I'm not really sure," but he's already explained to you repeatedly what his idea of a theocracy means and it had nothing to do with contemporary politics and shoving whatever down your throat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,266 #10 January 2, 2022 36 minutes ago, Coreece said: We've talked about this before, how you keep saying "seems to be this and seems to be that or I'm not really sure," but he's already explained to you repeatedly what his idea of a theocracy means and it had nothing to do with contemporary politics and shoving whatever down your throat. It is not about what theocracy means to him. It is about what the word means to me. He clearly is siding with the people who feel that the Biden administration needs to be replaced by force if necessary. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,096 #11 January 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Coreece said: We've talked about this before, how you keep saying "seems to be this and seems to be that or I'm not really sure," but he's already explained to you repeatedly what his idea of a theocracy means and it had nothing to do with contemporary politics and shoving whatever down your throat. Right. But his support of the Jan 6th insurrection does indeed mean he wants to shove his politics down your throat. (Or to take away the hyperbole, he supports armed insurrection to overturn democratically elected government.) His fundamentalism is loosely - but not directly - linked to that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
