Texas, the GOP, Abortion and the USSC

[Phil1111 1,149]

Well republicans are at it again. Pandering to their god and their base. They have passed a new law effectively banning abortion and The Supreme Court did not take action early Wednesday on a request to block a Texas law prohibiting most abortions after about six weeks of pregnancy, allowing the most restrictive abortion law in the nation to go into effect.

Of course per GOP SOP protecting children has nothing to do with this equation. "More kids were hospitalized with Covid-19 this month than any other time this past year -- proving how seriously the Delta variant can hit any age group.

Between August 20 and 26, an average of 330 children were admitted to hospitals every day with Covid-19, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention." Yet the GOP has put anti-vax, anti-masking freedom above their rights.

 

trump's branding of the court is evident. So anyone who believes that all judges are not political can dissuade themselves of such notions.

Edited September 1, 2021 by Phil1111

[ryoder 1,590]

From the NYT link:

But the Texas law was drafted to make it difficult to challenge in court. Usually, a lawsuit seeking to block a law because it is unconstitutional would name state officials as defendants. But the Texas law bars state officials from enforcing it and instead deputizes private individuals to sue anyone who performs the procedure or “aids and abets” it.

The patient may not be sued, but doctors, staff members at clinics, counselors, people who help pay for the procedure, even an Uber driver taking a patient to an abortion clinic are all potential defendants. Plaintiffs, who need not have any connection to the matter or show any injury from it, are entitled to $10,000 and their legal fees recovered if they win. Prevailing defendants are not entitled to legal fees.

This is asinine beyond belief. Anyone trying to sue will promptly have their suit tossed for lack of standing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_(law)

[SkyDekker 1,465]

59 minutes ago, ryoder said:

From the NYT link:

But the Texas law was drafted to make it difficult to challenge in court. Usually, a lawsuit seeking to block a law because it is unconstitutional would name state officials as defendants. But the Texas law bars state officials from enforcing it and instead deputizes private individuals to sue anyone who performs the procedure or “aids and abets” it.

The patient may not be sued, but doctors, staff members at clinics, counselors, people who help pay for the procedure, even an Uber driver taking a patient to an abortion clinic are all potential defendants. Plaintiffs, who need not have any connection to the matter or show any injury from it, are entitled to $10,000 and their legal fees recovered if they win. Prevailing defendants are not entitled to legal fees.

This is asinine beyond belief. Anyone trying to sue will promptly have their suit tossed for lack of standing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_(law)

very Chinese, get fellow citizens to spy on each other for the state.

[JoeWeber 2,839]

37 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

very Chinese, get fellow citizens to spy on each other for the state.

I honestly can not believe it's come to this, but here goes: you were right and I was wrong. We are a Banana Republic.

[Phil1111 1,149]

1 minute ago, JoeWeber said:

I honestly can not believe it's come to this, but here goes: you were right and I was wrong. Texas is a Banana Republic. Florida likely next

FIFY, don't be so hasty.

[JoeWeber 2,839]

Just now, Phil1111 said:

FIFY, don't be so hasty.

Leave me alone, I'm grieving.

[JerryBaumchen 1,446]

2 hours ago, ryoder said:

From the NYT link:

But the Texas law was drafted to make it difficult to challenge in court. Usually, a lawsuit seeking to block a law because it is unconstitutional would name state officials as defendants. But the Texas law bars state officials from enforcing it and instead deputizes private individuals to sue anyone who performs the procedure or “aids and abets” it.

The patient may not be sued, but doctors, staff members at clinics, counselors, people who help pay for the procedure, even an Uber driver taking a patient to an abortion clinic are all potential defendants. Plaintiffs, who need not have any connection to the matter or show any injury from it, are entitled to $10,000 and their legal fees recovered if they win. Prevailing defendants are not entitled to legal fees.

This is asinine beyond belief. Anyone trying to sue will promptly have their suit tossed for lack of standing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_(law)

Hi Robert,

I was just about to respond with the same thought.

They simply lack standing.

Jerry Baumchen

[Phil1111 1,149]

3 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Robert,

I was just about to respond with the same thought.

They simply lack standing.

Jerry Baumchen

Does a gun improve their standing?

Coming soon to an abortion clinic in Texas. Armed sheriffs with a AR-15 in one hand and a bible in another.

[tonyhays 86]

17 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

Well republicans are at it again. Pandering to their god and their base. They have passed a new law effectively banning abortion and The Supreme Court did not take action early Wednesday on a request to block a Texas law prohibiting most abortions after about six weeks of pregnancy, allowing the most restrictive abortion law in the nation to go into effect.

Of course per GOP SOP protecting children has nothing to do with this equation. "More kids were hospitalized with Covid-19 this month than any other time this past year -- proving how seriously the Delta variant can hit any age group.

Between August 20 and 26, an average of 330 children were admitted to hospitals every day with Covid-19, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention." Yet the GOP has put anti-vax, anti-masking freedom above their rights.

 

trump's branding of the court is evident. So anyone who believes that all judges are not political can dissuade themselves of such notions.

They may have won that battle but they're losing the war.  No need to travel to a clinic when various aid groups will mail the abortion pills straight to your door.  

Or go to the vet and say your pet has stomach ulces and needs misoprostol.  I'm sure the GOP will approve since they are currently scarfing down copious amount of invermectin

[ryoder 1,590]

Heather Cox Richardson's article from last night on the topic:

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/september-1-2021

[Stumpy 284]

6 minutes ago, ryoder said:

Heather Cox Richardson's article from last night on the topic:

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/september-1-2021

I knew this was a bad judgement, I hadn't realised how bad though.

The US takes one big step away from the civilised world.

[kallend 2,110]

"Welcome to Texas.  We make Mississippi look progressive"

[kallend 2,110]

What exactly do you expect when you have three "justices" appointed by a president who received 4M fewer votes than his opponent, confirmed by a Senate whose majority received fewer votes in total than their opponents.

Tyranny of the minority.  Rule by ignoramus.

[Phil1111 1,149]

1 hour ago, ryoder said:

Heather Cox Richardson's article from last night on the topic:

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/september-1-2021

This should be required reading for all Americans To really understand democracy run amok.

[gowlerk 2,253]

Things like this will motivate those who disagree to use their votes to do something about it. Abuse of power like this will cost the right their hold over states.

[wmw999 2,549]

15 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

Things like this will motivate those who disagree to use their votes to do something about it. Abuse of power like this will cost the right their hold over states.

As long as there are so many talking heads ginning up opposition to anything “liberal” and telling people they’re on the team, there’ll be plenty of people who will keep voting with groups that want to stay on top by stepping on others, not by being better. One way to do that is to redefine “better” as something like yourself. 
I’m concerned. 
Wendy P. 

[ryoder 1,590]

Who could have foreseen that the Taliban would take Afghanistan and Texas in the same week?

[JoeWeber 2,839]

12 minutes ago, ryoder said:

Who could have foreseen that the Taliban would take Afghanistan and Texas in the same week?

I know in my heart it's wrong to do but this is why, when I see a Texan coming, I cross to the other side of the street.

[Phil1111 1,149]

Perhaps a burka would help women in Texas needing an abortion. All those armed GOP deputies chasing after their $10,000 bounties. Would have trouble telling who from who.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

3 hours ago, Stumpy said:

I knew this was a bad judgement, I hadn't realised how bad though.

The US takes one big step away from the civilised world.

It can now be used in favour of some other items though. I hope a Democratic state will now use the same scheme to oppose gun ownership, or maybe ammunition ownership.

 

[yoink 321]

2 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

This should be required reading for all Americans To really understand democracy run amok.

It's INSANE.

The supreme court has outsourced justice to citizens.

A very slippery slope.

[lippy 918]

17 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

It can now be used in favour of some other items though. I hope a Democratic state will now use the same scheme to oppose gun ownership, or maybe ammunition ownership.

 

On that note, another of the laws that came into effect here in the great state of TX yesterday was to legalize no-permit carry:

No Permit Required

[SkyDekker 1,465]

3 minutes ago, lippy said:

On that note, another of the laws that came into effect here in the great state of TX yesterday was to legalize no-permit carry:

No Permit Required

Freedom is codifying armed vigilantes to enforce religion based rules.

But, have you heard about what is happening in Afghanistan and the Taliban? Disgraceful! Thankfully we are in Texas, land of the free.

 

[Phil1111 1,149]

[ryoder 1,590]