richravizza 30 #3051 September 5 (edited) 6 hours ago, billvon said: It was indeed founded partly on slavery. In fact, slavery is in the original Constitution. That's why so many conservatives don't want the Constitution studied. Because that, of course, is CRT, and makes white people feel bad. Yes. Redlining did in fact exist. That is a fact, even if you dislike facts that portray white people in a bad light. Slavery did in fact exist. That is also a fact, even with republicans trying to erase that fact from museums and history books. Black people were systematically excluded from bathrooms, water fountains, schools, businesses and the fronts of buses. Also a fact. Black people were excluded from sports teams. That was finally ended, even though people would ask things like "oh, so you think black males have no advantage in white sports?" Now, you can try to censor all that, of course - and many republicans are trying. But it is part of our history, and that history has an effect on today's society. Congrads, the march thru the institutions has been complete.The Left has even dominated language,credit where it's do. Firstly lastly. Yes we agree,redlining did exist but it doesn't today it against the law if you find it let me know,but rhyme in time should warn us of Lahaina or the Palisades.My pisain Adam Carolla does a specials on the new bureaucratic relining going on today. Yes slavery existed long before America existed and still does today. Nobodys trin to erase the facts. In astrology there's a sign of Libra and begs the question, How many Americans of the time owned slaves and if everyone was so racist, why did white men go to war, and die to free black slaves. Again Yes, Black people Were... I think our deviation is on the smallest of words. Yes I have alway welcomed athletic Black men on my team, with except swimming events lol ... but to the contrary some intellectuals have the luxury of dealing in ideas, without consequence,and with a unique lack of consequential knowledge. Now censors, really don't you know your party needs moderators and an office of truth,equipped with safe space faculty lounges Wake up call, you don't own the language or the narrative any longer.I suppose that was the plan,no need in brainwashing students when you have teachers for that. "It was indeed founded partly on slavery. In fact, slavery is in the original Constitution. That's why so many conservatives don't want the Constitution studied. Because that, of course, is CRT, and makes white people feel bad." No it's called a compromise,a concession.With an eye on a grander vision. It was not founded On slavery, as it was, with slavery." Atrocious I know, but people back then were generally...Atrocious" Perhaps the CRT intellectuals and yourself think better and it would have been wiser to leave the slave States out of our Union. Where would that lead us... The Union Invading their peaceful southern slave Nation some years later.; or as it was, Our Union on the Moral high ground, in keeping our Union together to live up to our founding principles within our Constitution. I Hope you can agree, a choice was clear, tradeoffs and all. Edited September 5 by richravizza Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,649 #3052 September 5 8 hours ago, richravizza said: He decides in a majority Black or Brown community. This action obvious perpetuates gentrification. He then decides again to move, it should be described as white flight. He decides "You know what?" It's not worth it. The hassle the labels, the move because... Why do you assume one white guy moving to a majority non-white neighbourhood is going to get hassled that badly? Do you think society as a whole is that blatantly racist? If so, do you also think people of colour in majority white spaces face the same hassle? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,649 #3053 September 5 4 hours ago, richravizza said: Yes we agree,redlining did exist but it doesn't today it against the law So.... things that are against the law don't happen? Like, seriously bro? 4 hours ago, richravizza said: My pisain Adam Carolla I don't think we need to know what you an Adam do to each other in private. Or maybe you meant paisano. 4 hours ago, richravizza said: Yes slavery existed long before America existed and still does today. Nobodys trin to erase the facts. So how come they like, y'know, are? Trump said, “How about George Washington high school? ‘We want the name removed from that high school.’ They don’t know why. You know, they thought he had slaves. Actually I think he probably didn’t.’” 5 hours ago, richravizza said: In astrology there's a sign of Libra and begs the question, How many Americans of the time owned slaves and if everyone was so racist, why did white men go to war, and die to free black slaves. It..... does it? I think I got whiplash trying to follow that association. Astrology means you can't be racist? Anyway, you know slavery is so heinous that most racist people today would draw the line far short of supporting it? Now imagine how racist you'd have to be to go to war against your own paisanos for the sole cause of defending the enslavement of black people? Imagine how racist you'd have to be to display a flag that still to this day represents that cause? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,176 #3054 September 5 12 hours ago, richravizza said: Yes we agree,redlining did exist but it doesn't today 2023 - $31 million judgment against National Bank in LA for redlining. 2025 - $1.75 million judgment against the Mortgage Company in Miami for redlining. These are the sorts of facts that conservatives want to cancel, so they can claim that there are no racial biases in modern society and thus no need to work to reduce them. It worked in your case; you honestly thought it didn't still happen. Quote it against the law So is rape and pedophilia. But somehow Trump and Gaetz still find time to do those things. Amazing aint it, that some people actually do things that are against the law! Quote if you find it let me know,but rhyme in time should warn us of Lahaina or the Palisades. No idea what that has to do with anything. (And no, please don't post a music video to explain.) Quote Yes slavery existed long before America existed and still does today. Nobodys trin to erase the facts. In astrology there's a sign of Libra and begs the question, In 2022, the Texas Board of Education demanded that slavery be called "involuntary relocation" instead of slavery, so white students wouldn't feel quite so bad. In 2023, Florida's Board of Education approved a new curriculum for public schools, including a mandate to teach that slavery wasn't that bad because slaves "developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit." In 2025, Trump demanded the Smithsonian change its tune because it talked about "how bad slavery was." Quote How many Americans of the time owned slaves and if everyone was so racist, why did white men go to war, and die to free black slaves. Because the woke Northern liberals thought it was inhumane to keep humans as property. Quote Now censors, really don't you know your party needs moderators and an office of truth Given that your party is literally banning WORDS from government documents, I'm just gonna laugh at that. Quote Wake up call, you don't own the language or the narrative any longer. Right. Your party owns it and will change it to make sure no one can express thoughts that are politically incorrect. Once you cancel all the language you don't like, those subsersive thoughts will be banished. "It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. . . .Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it." - George Orwell, 1984 Quote No it's called a compromise,a concession.With an eye on a grander vision. It was not founded On slavery, as it was, with slavery. It was a compromise, and it resulted in a country founded, in part, on slavery. It would not have been founded without slavery, because the South would not have agreed to a union without their slaves. So yes, slavery was essential to the creation of the United States. It was so essential that it was put in the Constitution. It was almost a century before we became woke enough to end it. Another good example of why conservatives want to change history. If they can just change history so that the US wasn't founded on slavery, but was founded on Christianity, things would be so much easier for you guys. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 30 #3055 September 6 On 9/5/2025 at 11:06 AM, billvon said: 2023 - $31 million judgment against National Bank in LA for redlining. 2025 - $1.75 million judgment against the Mortgage Company in Miami for redlining. These are the sorts of facts that conservatives want to cancel, so they can claim that there are no racial biases in modern society and thus no need to work to reduce them. It worked in your case; you honestly thought it didn't still happen. So is rape and pedophilia. But somehow Trump and Gaetz still find time to do those things. Amazing aint it, that some people actually do things that are against the law! No idea what that has to do with anything. (And no, please don't post a music video to explain.) In 2022, the Texas Board of Education demanded that slavery be called "involuntary relocation" instead of slavery, so white students wouldn't feel quite so bad. In 2023, Florida's Board of Education approved a new curriculum for public schools, including a mandate to teach that slavery wasn't that bad because slaves "developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit." In 2025, Trump demanded the Smithsonian change its tune because it talked about "how bad slavery was." Because the woke Northern liberals thought it was inhumane to keep humans as property. Given that your party is literally banning WORDS from government documents, I'm just gonna laugh at that. Right. Your party owns it and will change it to make sure no one can express thoughts that are politically incorrect. Once you cancel all the language you don't like, those subsersive thoughts will be banished. "It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. . . .Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it." - George Orwell, 1984 It was a compromise, and it resulted in a country founded, in part, on slavery. It would not have been founded without slavery, because the South would not have agreed to a union without their slaves. So yes, slavery was essential to the creation of the United States. It was so essential that it was put in the Constitution. It was almost a century before we became woke enough to end it. Another good example of why conservatives want to change history. If they can just change history so that the US wasn't founded on slavery, but was founded on Christianity, things would be so much easier for you guys. Thanks for letting me know, I'm sure it sends a message to all and you that progress, and our systemic institutions work,I don't want to censor anything. 1A is our mantal. Since you fail to agree with me on the very basics in words their meaning, our founding, Its principles, simple words like on, and with, escape us. I simply don't have the energy for such ramblings and the 7 questions of purity from a zealot Crusader, perhaps you jakee, and the zodiac have the C R T politically correct worldview... at least I tried. To what is true... what we agree on. And I could Kiss You! One simple word Compromise,Lets take a moment, outside of this context in what it means."It was a compromise," so close yet... "and it resulted in a country founded, in part, on slavery." Or was it a country in part founded On a compromise, With slavery. Your "in part", were they The majority of States,or a compromise with the minority? "It would not have been founded without slavery, because the South would not have agreed to a union without their slaves. So yes, slavery was essential to the creation of the United States. It was so essential that it was put in the Constitution." In my hypothetical, it disregard the slave issue to put Our founding, the "grander Vision into perspective." In part, what part ? lol... A Kimberle Crenshaw lucky me., and CRT. Poor people, academics and their a lack of Balance, consequential knowledge I doubt she's a Libra, a least she's wealthy Mr Duke. Poor Mr. Orwell rolling over in his grave. CRT is rewrite of the past,because we all know. "Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past." Another good example of why radical Leftist Progressives want to change history. If they can just change history so that the US was founded On slavery, but wasn't founded on Christianity, things would be so much easier for you guys. In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act". Bill throw me a bone, Do you think it's possible c19 came from the Institute ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,649 #3056 September 6 55 minutes ago, richravizza said: I simply don't have the energy for such ramblings The next ten paragraphs disagree with you. 56 minutes ago, richravizza said: If they can just change history so that the US was founded On slavery, but wasn't founded on Christianity, Funny how history says only one of those things was in the Constitution. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,176 #3057 September 6 1 hour ago, richravizza said: To what is true... what we agree on. And I could Kiss You! One simple word Compromise,Lets take a moment, outside of this context in what it means."It was a compromise," so close yet... "and it resulted in a country founded, in part, on slavery." Yes. We know this because the founding document of our country contained a provision supporting slavery. If you had written a contract to set up a company with several founders, and that contract said "the signers all agree to not allow any women to hold any positions of power within the Company" then the company would be founded, in part, on misogyny. Even if only 8 of the 12 founders wanted it, and even if it was a compromise. Quote Or was it a country in part founded On a compromise, With slavery. Your "in part", were they The majority of States,or a compromise with the minority? The entire document was a compromise between ~55 delegates. Most states at the time - Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Kentucky, and Tennessee - were slave states. So yes, it was a majority. Quote In part, what part ? 8/13th, or 62%. Quote lol... A Kimberle Crenshaw lucky me., and CRT. Poor people, academics and their a lack of Balance, consequential knowledge I doubt she's a Libra But Michelle Obama is a Capricorn. Checkmate! Quote CRT is rewrite of the past,because we all know. Nope. The exact opposite is true. Studying redlining and its persistence today is literally studying factual history. Even you now understand that redlining happened back then, and is still happening today. Trying to change the word "slavery" to "forced relocation," as the GOP is trying to do, is rewriting the past. Ordering the Smithsonian to stop saying "how bad slavery was" is trying to rewrite the past. I wish you bad luck in your attempt to alter the past in order to make white people feel better. Quote Bill throw me a bone, Do you think it's possible c19 came from the Institute ? It is certainly possible. It's more likely that it's zoonotic. As I said before. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 30 #3058 September 6 At least Rosie has proven her ability to change her mind, when the facts change so bravo to Rosie...not that bad So to Rosie O' {reality} Donnell to her,her,uck her! I suppose I should embrace my role, nothing to lose and all,say what is not supposed to be saaid,post what is no supposed to be posted. I suppose seeing a linebacker in the setting sun in a pretty moo moo is that bad, estrogen induced gynecomastia isn't so bad either. Like a mooned faced sumo or 25 stone a Kilt. My confusion should Never to be confused with a comorbidity. The Histrionic personality disorders strike yet again. https://nypost.com/2025/08/28/us-news/minneapolis-school-shooter-robin-westman-confessed-he-was-tired-of-being-trans/ Yin yang, white letters Black gun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,176 #3059 September 6 46 minutes ago, richravizza said: I suppose I should embrace my role, nothing to lose and all,say what is not supposed to be saaid,post what is no supposed to be posted. You are a 100% politically correct Trump supporter. You are hitting every meme, posting every new attack, following every new talking point laid out by FOX News for the right wing sheep. CRT is revisionst history - trans people are the enemy - China created COVID to attack the US - there's no racism today - white people are the real victims - trans people are only trans to fraudulently beat the poor women in sports - there was no slavery in the Constitution. You are saying EXACTLY what you are supposed to say in the Trumpoverse. So - congratulations? - I guess? - for posting what you are supposed to post. I hope you get your bone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 30 #3060 September 7 On 9/5/2025 at 2:29 AM, jakee said: Why do you assume one white guy moving to a majority non-white neighbourhood is going to get hassled that badly? Do you think society as a whole is that blatantly racist? If so, do you also think people of colour in majority white spaces face the same hassle? We're just in The Matrix again, shit where I break my own rules, where you saw shithead dei in front of your mob. You heard with your own ears,Trump say whittie supremacist are the fine people and Russia colluded to win Trump the 2020 Presidency.The lag top has nothing to do with election interference. Corona is a beer that came from a wet market, and an experimental vaccine should be mandatory for the safety of the collective. I suppose, I should get a pardon,too. I suppose where middle school girls should have to sign waivers of mental health or religion to have her right to privacy, as Intercollegiate ladies can attend penis therapy, to contend with the Cyphers rule play and that juicy Steak, The Left will simply liberate them of their Title IV. Thanks for the material. 3 hours ago, jakee said: The next ten paragraphs disagree with you. Funny how history says only one of those things was in the Constitution. Yes finally we agree on something,lol I had told you before,I can be a little hypocritical, but at least I'll admit it straight to your face.I was hoping to jump,I had compromise and hopefully the reasoning, the moral high ground of allowing the Slave states into the creation of the a Union,and the highground held in our abolitionist war... I had a three hour window to jump but life happens and at 100 degree decided tomorrows cooler.It was a big moment for bill and I,and compromise,at least We can agree on that,would you also like to oblige me. I'm just an olive branch...lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 30 #3061 September 7 3 hours ago, billvon said: Yes. We know this because the founding document of our country contained a provision supporting slavery. If you had written a contract to set up a company with several founders, and that contract said "the signers all agree to not allow any women to hold any positions of power within the Company" then the company would be founded, in part, on misogyny. Even if only 8 of the 12 founders wanted it, and even if it was a compromise. The entire document was a compromise between ~55 delegates. Most states at the time - Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Kentucky, and Tennessee - were slave states. So yes, it was a majority. 8/13th, or 62%. But Michelle Obama is a Capricorn. Checkmate! Nope. The exact opposite is true. Studying redlining and its persistence today is literally studying factual history. Even you now understand that redlining happened back then, and is still happening today. Trying to change the word "slavery" to "forced relocation," as the GOP is trying to do, is rewriting the past. Ordering the Smithsonian to stop saying "how bad slavery was" is trying to rewrite the past. I wish you bad luck in your attempt to alter the past in order to make white people feel better. It is certainly possible. It's more likely that it's zoonotic. As I said before. So we could say that our founding was the beginning of the end of slavery,we should be grateful of such vision. By comparison, five American states (Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island) had already passed legislation to end slavery by the summer of 1787. In other words, almost two decades before any other nation ended slavery, America was already on its way to ending this practice. *8 /13 or 62%,or 1.5-4% and 30%; I was looking for the percentage of slave owners in America. Libra is an inside tickel with Jakee it means to find balance, an idea in complete conflict in a critical theorem, of which you've embraced, only half the story but that's exactly it's purpose for power. A theory to question or is it your entire world view. I think You could care less of the feeling of white people,Mostly immigrants that had nothing to do with the practice. CRT would tell you obviously whites are the problem. What was that intro,To reject the Neutral principles of the Constitution,tru dat crt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,649 #3062 September 7 4 hours ago, richravizza said: So we could say that our founding was the beginning of the end of slavery,we should be grateful of such vision. By comparison, five American states (Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island) had already passed legislation to end slavery by the summer of 1787. In other words, almost two decades before any other nation ended slavery, America was already on its way to ending this practice. France banned slavery in 1315. Korea banned slavery in about 950 - as did Venice. Many other nations were ‘on the way’ to banning slavery well before the US was ‘on the way’ to it, just as the US was quite sluggish in actually banning it. But by all means, keep on revising history to make yourself feel better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,649 #3063 September 7 5 hours ago, richravizza said: We're just in The Matrix again, Ok. So in the Matrix why do you assume one white guy moving to a non white neighbourhood is going to get hassled that badly? Is society that racist? 5 hours ago, richravizza said: I had compromise What have you compromised? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,176 #3064 September 7 20 hours ago, richravizza said: So we could say that our founding was the beginning of the end of slavery,we should be grateful of such vision. No. No one (other than conservatives) is grateful that the US Constitution was written to allow slavery. It's great that a later amendment changed that mistake, though. Your post is a perfect example of why conservatives want to change history to make themselves feel better. "Our founding the country on slavery really ended slavery! It didn't perpetuate it! But please don't check." Quote By comparison, five American states (Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island) had already passed legislation to end slavery by the summer of 1787. Yes, I already mentioned that it was the Southern states who wanted slavery in the Constitution - and got it. The northern liberals did not. Quote almost two decades before any other nation ended slavery A PERFECT example of how cancelling history, and believing FOX News lies, makes you feel better about yourself. Quote A theory to question or is it your entire world view. I think You could care less of the feeling of white people ?? Most of my friends are white people, and 95% of my family are. In terms of white people in general - I don't care any more or less about their feelings than I care for the feelings of any other sort of person. I hope that someday you'll stop making decisions on people based on their skin color. Quote CRT would tell you obviously whites are the problem. Many whites were the problem, yes. Most southern slave owners were white. But most white people were not southern slave owners. Quote What was that intro,To reject the Neutral principles of the Constitution,tru dat crt. What are "the Neutral principles of the Constitution?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 30 #3065 September 7 (edited) 23 hours ago, billvon said: You are a 100% politically correct Trump supporter. You are hitting every meme, posting every new attack, following every new talking point laid out by FOX News for the right wing sheep. CRT is revisionst history - trans people are the enemy - China created COVID to attack the US - there's no racism today - white people are the real victims - trans people are only trans to fraudulently beat the poor women in sports - there was no slavery in the Constitution. You are saying EXACTLY what you are supposed to say in the Trumpoverse. So - congratulations? - I guess? - for posting what you are supposed to post. I hope you get your bone. You are 100% wrong I am 100%OG, and I don't watch MSM... For The Third Time Directy Sir, some comprehension please. CRT is revistionist the tool ,that's what we've been trying to get through to you,I thought it wasn't taught in classrooms or schools only in academia yet Here it is the Consensus. Trans people are not enemies, they are our people, the vast majority with serious underlying issues particularly in our youth manifested by suggestion and affirmed no matter the underlying psychiatric issue, a codependency with their underlying comorbidities. Men that compete against women don't have pussies, they are pussies! If they were such strong women with penises why the need to compete against vagainas or the opposite sex. They Could would and should compete against men and show us "strong woman go" Ps. I align to opine; once a feller; still named Jenner. China didn't create the virus to attack the US, they are good capitalists and knew Obama didn't want that dangerous research done in our country so they did it for us, BLS-4 at BLS-1 prices what a deal. But since.. There is no consensus across the U.S. government on the origin of COVID-19. Key factors contributing to this ongoing division include: Lack of definitive evidence: Insufficient information from the earliest COVID-19 cases has prevented a conclusive finding. Absence of Chinese cooperation: Beijing continues to resist sharing critical information needed to reach a conclusive assessment. Differences in analysis: Intelligence agencies weigh available intelligence and scientific data differently, leading to varied conclusions. No evidence of a Houston origins; as no large bat population has since been infectious lol Thanks for the bone,the compromise.I like the Plausible deniability on the origin theory. To beleive in Fauci is to beleive in miracles, and the paper "The Proximal Origin of SARS-CoV-2," published in Nature Medicine, to put our entire world wide pandemic into a nice little box, put a label and a bow on the entire ordeal.China's' responses to the initial outbreak and ensuing drama situation.I've come to a different conclusion and quite the conspiracy.Perhaps one day we'll breathe together and agree, that's the beauty of rhetoric, the debate is never over. Please consider the FBI take Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI): The FBI has assessed with "moderate confidence" that a lab leak from the Wuhan Institute of Virology was the most likely origin of the pandemic. FBI Director Christopher Wray publicly confirmed this assessment in early 2023. Peace Bill Edited September 7 by richravizza Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 30 #3066 September 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, billvon said: No. No one (other than conservatives) is grateful that the US Constitution was written to allow slavery. It's great that a later amendment changed that mistake, though. Your post is a perfect example of why conservatives want to change history to make themselves feel better. "Our founding the country on slavery really ended slavery! It didn't perpetuate it! But please don't check." Yes, I already mentioned that it was the Southern states who wanted slavery in the Constitution - and got it. The northern liberals did not. A PERFECT example of how cancelling history, and believing FOX News lies, makes you feel better about yourself. ?? Most of my friends are white people, and 95% of my family are. In terms of white people in general - I don't care any more or less about their feelings than I care for the feelings of any other sort of person. I hope that someday you'll stop making decisions on people based on their skin color. Many whites were the problem, yes. Most southern slave owners were white. But most white people were not southern slave owners. What are "the Neutral principles of the Constitution?" NO NO lol What a contentious tell a heavy dose of Presentism is always your strong suit. lol ok Bill then can you be grateful in the Constitution's Amendments, A (R) would bark back, "Hey Professor, You Can't have the latter without the former. I thought we went over this, we would Compromise for a grand vision. I even used the scenario for you, but it's only conservative that are grateful....Ouch you got me! lol Here's another pastie for you. Of the original 13 states, seven became abolitionist states: Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New York, and New Jersey. These northern states passed laws to gradually or immediately end slavery between 1780 and 1804, while the remaining six southern states (Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia) did not abolish slavery until the passage of the 13th Amendment after the Civil War. You're the one living your reality in a Theorem. Dude, take a autumn vacation to Vermont, bring an old 35mm.Detox yourself of all media,48-72 hrs.the withdrawals and delirium will subside. Then ask a local of their history with true curiosity and a open mind,You just might feel something, gratefulness, even with its flaws. Bill your rebuttal of my highlighted posts are paste and copies,so seems your the one clashing with history. You hope... lol really, you should be grateful.Because I also "hope that someday you'll stop making decisions on people based on their skin color." Again you wouldn't know a conservative if it bit you, or a gadsden flag snapped your ass.Either way, you're the one stepping on the snake it's a diamondback professor. Ask your local CRT priests, they can point to constellation Libra for you in tonights sky,Jakee my join us. Edited September 8 by richravizza Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 30 #3067 September 8 (edited) 20 hours ago, jakee said: France banned slavery in 1315. Korea banned slavery in about 950 - as did Venice. Many other nations were ‘on the way’ to banning slavery well before the US was ‘on the way’ to it, just as the US was quite sluggish in actually banning it. But by all means, keep on revising history to make yourself feel better. Oh poor girl, you got it Bad. Revising history ...I find it a Blast! You know me hammer and anvil,"If I can't break it, how will I Know" here's your context in two, no, three simple queries. France banned slavery twice, first in 1794 during the French Revolution, then re-instated by Napoleon in 1802, and finally abolished it permanently in 1848. The 1848 abolition was a key event championed by Victor Schœlcher and established full citizenship for newly freed people. As for KKKorea South Korea's system of hereditary slavery (the nobi system) was completely abolished in 1894 as part of the Gabo Reforms. This marked the culmination of a gradual decline of slavery, which had begun with royal emancipation efforts in the late 18th century and continued through the emancipation of government slaves in 1801 and the more widespread abolition of the hereditary nobi system in the 1880s But I see your point of reference; a north star, a truth between us, did you find it, the enslaved of North Korea.The poor souls taught to despises the very principles America was founded On.On to Venice. Bellissimo Jakee, The Venice factoid to Rattazzi makes for a beautiful consolation in our constellation just a suggestion. Italy did not have a single, nationwide slavery ban; instead, it was a gradual process with different Italian states abolishing slavery at various times in the 19th century, culminating in the Legge Rattazzi (Rattazzi Law) of March 19, 1878, which abolished slavery throughout the entire Kingdom of Italy. Slavery persisted in some Italian states after 1750, but the movement towards its abolition accelerated with the formation of the unified Kingdom of Italy in 1861. Buonanotte tesoro Edited September 8 by richravizza Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 30 #3068 September 8 (edited) 21 hours ago, jakee said: Ok. So in the Matrix why do you assume one white guy moving to a non white neighbourhood is going to get hassled that badly? Is society that racist? What have you compromised? A matrix is a construct or narrative, a way of guiding you without you realizing it, the walls themselves, but the direction the construct imposes. You're being lead; to think in a particular way,also to invoke a particular response. The story of the cracker was not mine but and example of the desired response and outcome.It was a thought experiment.It's too bad your friends don't help out and explain things. What have I compromised...seriously? My own rules to start, I'm a sucker for you,don't you know. I dare you to post the song back...It can be a clean way of flirting each other,or if you thinks something better suits us, I'm all eyes and ears. I've been working on patience and some rules are meant to be broken,right.,so i'll go over things with you. The left's domination of language leaves us with three outcomes to describe the crackers actions.Gentrification,white flight,or if he does nothing, he's is still complicit.Do you see, no matter he is the oppressor.Heads he wins, tails you lose. Edited September 8 by richravizza Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,649 #3069 September 8 4 hours ago, richravizza said: It was a thought experiment. Ok. So in the thought experiment why do you assume one white guy moving to a non white neighbourhood is going to get hassled that badly? Is society that racist? Do you think black people would face the same amount of hassle moving to white neighbourhoods? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,649 #3070 September 8 5 hours ago, richravizza said: Revising history ...I find it a Blast! That is certainly true! In 1315, Louis X published a decree, known as the Ordonnance royale du juillet, 1315 abolishing slavery and proclaiming that "France signifies freedom", with the effect that any slave setting foot on French soil should be freed.[4] However, slavery continued until the 17th century in some of France's Mediterranean harbours in Provence, as well as until the 18th century in some of France's overseas territories. So the US was really not responsible for the beginning of the end of slavery, was it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 3,026 #3071 September 8 7 hours ago, jakee said: Ok. So in the thought experiment why do you assume one white guy moving to a non white neighbourhood is going to get hassled that badly? Is society that racist? Do you think black people would face the same amount of hassle moving to white neighbourhoods? Well done jakee!!! You managed to prove that richravizza has no clue what he is talking about and is completely confused as to what he even believes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 30 #3072 September 10 (edited) On 9/8/2025 at 12:12 PM, JoeWeber said: Well done jakee!!! You managed to prove that richravizza has no clue what he is talking about and is completely confused as to what he even believes. Well done My King!!! I had hoped her friends would help her and you come in and support her fallacies,First with ancient one of yours, authority.Then you lead her onto another fallacy in accidents, or is it exclusion, either way me thinks, purposeful,and counterproductive. The statement "the exception is not a rule" is not a fallacy but a correct assertion; the Latin term for the fallacy that ignores exceptions to a rule is dicto simpliciter or the fallacy of accident. The related Latin legal phrase "exceptio probat regulam" (the exception proves the rule) is often misused, as it implies a rule exists to be excepted from, not that the exception validates it. Confusion is the purpose of postmodernism, our ethos. I simply made an AI assisted query of when slavery ended,just a simple copy, pastie and no sweat off my belief system there ... Agent Smith.Perhaps a test, "no longer breaking myself for, or you."? So, I will agree, confusion in what one believes is the postmodern belief, an ethos in ,there is no truth. Hence CRT and a 1619... pulitzer baby! Compromises is only a concept at the moment... We were on the differences between the word On, and With. Edited September 10 by richravizza Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 30 #3073 September 10 (edited) On 9/8/2025 at 1:44 AM, jakee said: Ok. So in the thought experiment why do you assume one white guy moving to a non white neighbourhood is going to get hassled that badly? Is society that racist? Do you think black people would face the same amount of hassle moving to white neighbourhoods? I was lied to six times,just tyn to find out where shit head died. Thought I was going crazy lol But It's all in how you ask a question. Yes, George Floyd died at the hospital after being restrained by police officers in Minneapolis, Minnesota on May 25, 2020. He was pronounced dead at Hennepin County Medical Center at 9:25 PM. See,No need to lie Edited September 10 by richravizza Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,645 #3074 September 10 53 minutes ago, richravizza said: Yes, George Floyd died at the hospital after being restrained by police officers in Minneapolis, Minnesota on May 25, 2020. He was pronounced dead at Hennepin County Medical Center at 9:25 PM. Generally it takes a doctor to pronounce death under those sorts of circumstances. There weren’t any authorized doctors at the scene. So he had to be taken to the hospital. From a news story at the time: Quote Under questioning by prosecutor Jerry Blackwell, Langenfeld said that based on the information he had, it was “more likely than the other possibilities” that Floyd’s cardiac arrest — the stopping of his heart — was caused by asphyxia, or insufficient oxygen. (Source) Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 30 #3075 September 10 (edited) On 9/8/2025 at 1:44 AM, jakee said: Ok. So in the thought experiment why do you assume one white guy moving to a non white neighbourhood is going to get hassled that badly? Is society that racist? Do you think black people would face the same amount of hassle moving to white neighbourhoods? In the matrix,the walls are racism {response}and the assumptions you make of our society and of the craker,the {outcome}. There is no way out other than to follow our walls and assume racism. But You turned it around, Very good! So the short answer to all three questions is No.{exception for the assholes} I don't think our society would hassle anyone based on their race,But those assholes come in all the shades and colors. My point being our language is the matrix {walls} our assumptions and provoke our response in a direction. The outcome is our racism, and derogatory terms only apply if our example is white {oppressor}. Would a similarly derogatory term be appropriate for black people,if they simply moved to an area,moved out, or didn't move at all? Peace Edited September 10 by richravizza Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites