Woke is a Joke

[jakee 1,649]

41 minutes ago, richravizza said:

I doubt most could read it to answer.

Yeah, they don’t do words good like you. 

42 minutes ago, richravizza said:

Besides I thought the baptists and the protestants were your issue.

Baptists are Protestants.

43 minutes ago, richravizza said:

Thanks for refraining from my personna an olive branch.

You’re thanking him for not offering an olive branch? 

[billvon 3,178]

9 hours ago, richravizza said:

  I'll dismiss your first paragraph out right

Of course you will.

You see yourself as the hero in your own story, and acknowledging that you are part of a party that, very literally, protects rapists, pedophiles and felons would cause severe cognitive dissonance.  So you deny and reject all the proof of that fact - because if you did not, it would cause you serious mental issues.

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He created the pandemic. 

THERE'S the crazy!

I get a kick out of conspiracy theorists who show that kind of woo prejudice.  "Well of course the Earth is flat and Apollo never happened.  But Bigfoot?  No such thing.  That's just nuts."  While ignoring, of course, that all three conspiracy theories are supported by exactly the same sort of crazy.

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Like the song just burn the books.

Yep.  You guys have been working on that for ten years now.  Books often contain objective facts that would disrupt whatever sort of crazy is politically popular for republicans.

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Do you really think, I would imagine windmills are cancerous.

Why not?  You believe Fauci is an evil genius who created COVID-19 and unleashed it on an unsuspecting populace.  Windmill cancer is no more or less nuts.  And Trump says it's a thing - and if you start doubting him on that you might start applying the same sort of critical thinking on everything he said, which might lead you to support a more fact-based liberal.  And we can't have that.

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An Aircraft mechanic believes in chemtrails

You think doctors believe that Fauci created COVID-19 so why not?

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Find the Truth

You and the truth parted ways a long time ago.  Now you just believe whatever FOX News, Breitbart or OAN tells you to.

[richravizza 30]

10 hours ago, jakee said:

Well you just said Fauci created the pandemic, so yeah I for sure think that. Why wouldn’t I?

"we will need to contend with our post #2974, for our honesty's sake."

[richravizza 30]

4 hours ago, billvon said:

Of course you will.

You see yourself as the hero in your own story, and acknowledging that you are part of a party that, very literally, protects rapists, pedophiles and felons would cause severe cognitive dissonance.  So you deny and reject all the proof of that fact - because if you did not, it would cause you serious mental issues.

THERE'S the crazy!

I get a kick out of conspiracy theorists who show that kind of woo prejudice.  "Well of course the Earth is flat and Apollo never happened.  But Bigfoot?  No such thing.  That's just nuts."  While ignoring, of course, that all three conspiracy theories are supported by exactly the same sort of crazy.

Yep.  You guys have been working on that for ten years now.  Books often contain objective facts that would disrupt whatever sort of crazy is politically popular for republicans.

Why not?  You believe Fauci is an evil genius who created COVID-19 and unleashed it on an unsuspecting populace.  Windmill cancer is no more or less nuts.  And Trump says it's a thing - and if you start doubting him on that you might start applying the same sort of critical thinking on everything he said, which might lead you to support a more fact-based liberal.  And we can't have that.

You think doctors believe that Fauci created COVID-19 so why not?

You and the truth parted ways a long time ago.  Now you just believe whatever FOX News, Breitbart or OAN tells you to.

 Bill do me a big favor don't use the term cognitive dissonance anymore it has been rendered meaningless if you can't recognize it in oneself. I  have it too and always try to stay on point,but it's too deep for this linear communication,and deserves a comfortable chair, it's on a spectrum so  again, it's the one thing we got. 

I am no hero, and this is not a story with a twist at the end. Serious mental issues are not my handicap"for the grace of God, go I." It's a phrase addicts and alcoholics say when sober.  With hundreds of addictions, drugs and combos,An a/a can find solace in those words and in their burden their addiction.A realization in their Honestly, at Least I'm not a {specific} addict/alcoholic also, it tunes them into the concept of being grateful regardless of their personal situation,and an ability to step outside themselves and observe the situation in a third persective.    

 The open borders let cretel, human traffickers, prior rapist pedos alike by the thousands in,enriched the Cartels to billions.Soros and Sanctuary city policy lead to those criminals by the thousands back onto the Streets, to hit it again and victimize the same communities from which they came, and you've got the audacity to blame Conservatives for it. Conservatives call your policy Criminal Sanctuary. I really don't think you can hold a tune.

"Yep.  You guys have been working on that for ten years now.  Books often contain objective facts that would disrupt whatever sort of crazy is politically popular for republicans."

Do you see any dissonance in above statement, it's two way tone and pitch ? I think note Projection is more accurate. Objective facts, objective ,ity objectivism. Those are Conservative Ideals too, it must sound crazy,but deeper we share in Ayn,she surely wouldn't be considered a modern Democrat.

For fifteen years Academia has been pushing the idea of postmodernism,subjectivism, relativism and a host of dei die shiza "only an intellectual could believe in such stupidity" Of course this kind of guy is in, gets a check and a vacation for teaching stupid ideas that manifest in so many ways.

 Can we at least agree iC-19 was created in a Chinese lab,US funded. Fauci's no genius he's just the middle man, again against Pres.Obama's wishes. Without Dr. Fauci, it would have been just a fevered dream, as it broke, we awoke and opened our eyes in so many ways.

I told you I don't consume MSM. So, I found this for you. Fox news and the age of rage LOL

I'm hungry gotta run.https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/jonathan-turley-grand-jury-finds-indictment-ex-doj-employee-tough-swallow-can-justice-served

 

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[billvon 3,178]

On 9/1/2025 at 12:08 PM, richravizza said:

 I am no hero, and this is not a story with a twist at the end. Serious mental issues are not my handicap"for the grace of God, go I."

Sorry I call them as I see them.  I don't see you as a hero.  I just see you as one of the many Trump supporters who are maintaining your sanity by denying reality.  And while it's good that you are staying sane, it's sad that you are doing it by ignoring reality.

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The open borders let cretel, human traffickers, prior rapist pedos alike by the thousands

Again, given Trump is literally a rapist, and is just as literally supporting and protecting pedophiles and human traffickers, I can't take your crying very seriously.  You deal with the beam in your eye and then we'll look to fixing the motes in everyone else's.

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you've got the audacity to blame Conservatives for it.

I blame conservatives for supporting rapists, pedophiles, human traffickers and felons, yes.  And will continue to do so until you stop supporting them.

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For fifteen years Academia has been pushing the idea of postmodernism,subjectivism, relativism and a host of dei die shiza "only an intellectual could believe in such stupidity" 

For 1500 years academia has been pushing EVERY idea.  It's what they do.  They push the ideas of Kant, and Nietzsche, and Jung, and Freud.  They push "natural philosophy" (science) and math and theater.  They go into capitalism and socialism and communism and nihilism and objectivism and every other -ism.  The difference between you and I is that I think studying things like that is worth it.  You think studying anything other than the things you believe in to be stupidity.  Which is why you so often misunderstand what happens in the world around you; you have no frame of reference other than your own, and you get your worldview from whatever Youtube video you saw last night.

Then you post that video here thinking it is a substitute for intelligent analysis.  It's not.

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Fauci's no genius he's just the middle man

Given that Fauci literally wrote the book on infectious disease, he's a lot smarter than you or I - and has done far more good for Americans (and the world at large) than you or I ever will.

 

[richravizza 30]

2 hours ago, billvon said:

Sorry I call them as I see them.  I don't see you as a hero.  I just see you as one of the many Trump supporters who are maintaining your sanity by denying reality.  And while it's good that you are staying sane, it's sad that you are doing it by ignoring reality.

I blame conservatives for supporting rapists, pedophiles, human traffickers and felons, yes.  And will continue to do so until you stop supporting them.

For 1500 years academia has been pushing EVERY idea.  It's what they do.  They push the ideas of Kant, and Nietzsche, and Jung, and Freud.  They push "natural philosophy" (science) and math and theater.  They go into capitalism and socialism and communism and nihilism and objectivism and every other -ism.  The difference between you and I is that I think studying things like that is worth it.  You think studying anything other than the things you believe in to be stupidity.  Which is why you so often misunderstand what happens in the world around you; you have no frame of reference other than your own, and you get your worldview from whatever Youtube video you saw last night.

Then you post that video here thinking it is a substitute for intelligent analysis.  It's not.

Given that Fauci literally wrote the book on infectious disease, he's a lot smarter than you or I - and has done far more good for Americans (and the world at large) than you or I ever will.

 

My reading comprehension isn't deficient,You said, I thought myself a Hero,I corrected you, perhaps you missed it. Rosie didn't,quite amazing she recently corrected herself,must be missing the States.

You Call them as you see them? lol  what a tell. Throw me into your box,wrap'em up,slap a label on it,out it goes. Not a shred of Individualism. As if, either of us had an alternative choice between dumb and dumber. Another four years as it was, unburdened or the alternative.Between our Drug epidemics need for attention, in  "what has been, unburdened" our Border Czar,or an alternative. Just one aspect to our reality.

 Please don't go into the  psychology dept with me,"It's dark in there and nobody should go in,alone.lol  As for "Blame", life's decisions are merely tradeoff. Go visit the DHS website I gave Jake the link, I told you It's updated daily. I would suppose you would have singular Trump in a cage, rather than the thousands being attended to or those still roaming our streets. Cartels does not mean singular.

 I'll agree for 1500 years Academia has push quite a few good Ideas as well as the bad ones too.But since you can't even admit the virus..may have come from a lab...Well you leave me stumped. We can bash  all mighty Fauci, He's exempt from true justice,but not ridicule.With his Presidential Pardon, All Hail ! Fauci wrote a book alright.I'll agree,from aids to covid he  rewrote it. It's ok, the Communist burned it,and that Pres. Pardon was issued. Perhaps in some reality Fauci is our Hero a true modern miracle.

Video is entertaining...A live performance may give goosebumps. skip the :49 intro.

 

 I posted the Cass review,Wpath files, Rolands work, and Instructing animosity.I once gave you credit for debunking The John Hopkins mask studie so Chop,Chop.lol Nah, that's not fair,too much reality for just one session.lol I had thought Phill was going to take up the CRT mantle,but smart man that Phill. So this is a from a woke bible.One of the major say five Books of woke An Introduction to CRT. 

 " Introduction movement considers many of the same issues that conventional civil rights and ethnic studies discourses take up, but places them in a broader perspective that includes economics, history, context, group- and self-interest, and even feelings and the unconscious. Unlike traditional civil rights, which embraces incrementalism and step-by-step progress, critical race theory questions the very foundations of the liberal order, including equality theory, legal reasoning, Enlightenment rationalism, and neutral principles of constitutional law."

 

[BIGUN 1,521]

5 hours ago, richravizza said:

One of the major say five Books of woke An Introduction to CRT. 

 " Introduction movement considers many of the same issues that conventional civil rights and ethnic studies discourses take up, but places them in a broader perspective that includes economics, history, context, group- and self-interest, and even feelings and the unconscious. Unlike traditional civil rights, which embraces incrementalism and step-by-step progress, critical race theory questions the very foundations of the liberal order, including equality theory, legal reasoning, Enlightenment rationalism, and neutral principles of constitutional law."

You throw this up as some form of Ta DAH! Moment. It is merely the main introductory paragraph of the 6 page missive from NYU in the 90's. You fail to post the rest of the information or even provide a link so others can see you're being disingenuous while we get another fucktube video and you argue intellectual honesty. 

 

Delgado_and_Stefancic_on_Critical_Race_Theory.pdf

[billvon 3,178]

On 9/2/2025 at 8:06 PM, richravizza said:

You Call them as you see them? lol  what a tell.

I know how much people like that bother you, yes.  If I were more politically correct, said things like "well both sides do it" and "maybe all the women were lying" you'd be much happier I am sure.  Well sorry sunshine, not gonna do the politically correct thing.

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As if, either of us had an alternative choice between dumb and dumber.

We did indeed have a choice.  I chose the competent woman.  You chose the rapist, pedophile and convicted felon.  Morality on display.

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As for "Blame", life's decisions are merely tradeoff.

Love this.

Democrat does something dumb.  Republicans - "democrats are to BLAME!  They are 100% responsible for every bad thing that came from this dumb thing!"

Republican does something dumb.  Republicans - "well, all life's decisions are merely tradeoffs.  Let's not play the blame game."

A very convenient - and flexible - morality for a party that now supports pedophiles, rapists and felons.

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I would suppose you would have singular Trump in a cage, rather than the thousands being attended to or those still roaming our streets.

Yes, I would have rapists, felons and pedophiles in cages.  You want them in charge.  We are not the same.

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I'll agree for 1500 years Academia has push quite a few good Ideas as well as the bad ones too.

A good reason to not ban the latest politically incorrect field of study.

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But since you can't even admit the virus..may have come from a lab...

It may indeed have come at some point from a lab - although right now it's a lot more likely it was zoonotic.  I realize that does not align with your political agenda.  Thoughts and prayers.

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We can bash  all mighty Fauci,

And indeed you have little else other than those bashes.  Remember - if it's a scientist who disagrees with you he's guilty and to blame, if he's a republican, well, let's not play the blame game, all decisions are tradeoffs.

[billvon 3,178]

On 9/2/2025 at 8:06 PM, richravizza said:

You Call them as you see them? lol  what a tell.

I know how much people like that bother you, yes.  If I were more politically correct, said things like "well both sides do it" and "maybe all the women were lying" you'd be much happier I am sure.  Well sorry sunshine, not gonna do the politically correct thing.

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As if, either of us had an alternative choice between dumb and dumber.

We did indeed have a choice.  I chose the competent woman.  You chose the rapist, pedophile and convicted felon.  Morality on display.

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As for "Blame", life's decisions are merely tradeoff.

Love this.

Democrat does something dumb.  Republicans - "democrats are to BLAME!  They are 100% responsible for every bad thing that came from this dumb thing!"

Republican does something dumb.  Republicans - "well, all life's decisions are merely tradeoffs.  Let's not play the blame game."

A very convenient - and flexible - morality for a party that now supports pedophiles, rapists and felons.

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I would suppose you would have singular Trump in a cage, rather than the thousands being attended to or those still roaming our streets.

Yes, I would have rapists, felons and pedophiles in cages.  You want them in charge.  We are not the same.

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I'll agree for 1500 years Academia has push quite a few good Ideas as well as the bad ones too.

A good reason to not ban the latest politically incorrect field of study.

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But since you can't even admit the virus..may have come from a lab...

It may indeed have come at some point from a lab - although right now it's a lot more likely it was zoonotic.  I realize that does not align with your political agenda.  Thoughts and prayers.

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We can bash  all mighty Fauci,

And indeed you have little else other than those bashes.  Remember - if it's a scientist who disagrees with you he's guilty and to blame, if he's a republican, well, let's not play the blame game, all decisions are tradeoffs. 

[dogyks 30]

On 9/3/2025 at 4:56 AM, BIGUN said:

You throw this up as some form of Ta DAH! Moment. It is merely the main introductory paragraph of the 6 page missive from NYU in the 90's. You fail to post the rest of the information or even provide a link so others can see you're being disingenuous while we get another fucktube video and you argue intellectual honesty. 

 

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Going through the paper, the basis of its argument is Petito Principii, a classical fallacy of relevance.

CRT, like DEI, is terminally flawed.  Those who eapouse these doctrines are either contrarian or simply hard of thinking.

[wmw999 2,648]

49 minutes ago, dogyks said:

Those who eapouse these doctrines are either contrarian or simply hard of thinking.

Reframing an issue, particularly a complex one, to understand it from a different light is considered to be intellectually valid. CRT is largely reframing an issue to understand it from a different light. You just don't like that light.

Wendy P.

[dogyks 30]

22 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

Reframing an issue, particularly a complex one, to understand it from a different light is considered to be intellectually valid. CRT is largely reframing an issue to understand it from a different light. You just don't like that light.

Wendy P.

 

22 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

Reframing an issue, particularly a complex one, to understand it from a different light is considered to be intellectually valid. CRT is largely reframing an issue to understand it from a different light. You just don't like that light.

Wendy P.

Because it is purely racist by any measure.  I find racism to be nauseating and dislike racists.

[BIGUN 1,521]

20 minutes ago, dogyks said:

Because it is purely racist by any measure.  I find racism to be nauseating and dislike racists.

As Wendy puts it - it shines a different light. CRT forces one to recognize other types of bias and hopefully one's own bias. You simply don't want to get it. 

[dogyks 30]

7 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

As Wendy puts it - it shines a different light. CRT forces one to recognize other types of bias and hopefully one's own bias. You simply don't want to get it. 

It's a racist light, I get it.

I have heard compelling arguments to the effect that rape is a good thing overall.  You will excuse me if I reserve the right to find rape repellant across the board.

Similarly, explanations of 'good' vs 'bad' racism fall on deaf ears.  It is no more okay for Ibrahim X Kendi to make a good living from racism than for David Duke.

Germany in the '30s made amazing progress, which fails to compensate for their slightly racist agenda.

 

 

[BIGUN 1,521]

43 minutes ago, dogyks said:

It's a racist light, I get it.

It's recognizing the racist light. Not really.

43 minutes ago, dogyks said:

I have heard compelling arguments to the effect that rape is a good thing overall.  You will excuse me if I reserve the right to find rape repellant across the board.

Bad use of association. Not even sure how this compares. Well, unless one is a racist rapist. 

[billvon 3,178]

7 hours ago, dogyks said:

I have heard compelling arguments to the effect that rape is a good thing overall.  You will excuse me if I reserve the right to find rape repellant across the board.

Unless there's an election.  Then you're not going to vote for the woman who opposes the rapist because she's a black woman with a horrible laugh.  But other than that, yeah, you find it repellent.  Just not enough to oppose rapists.

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Similarly, explanations of 'good' vs 'bad' racism fall on deaf ears. 

Winsor the doctor:

"Well, the best drug for your heart condition would be the vasodilator Bidil.  But that drug is only for black people, and you're black, so I can't prescribe it.  It's racist."

[jakee 1,649]

9 hours ago, dogyks said:

Because it is purely racist by any measure.  I find racism to be nauseating and dislike racists.

No but seriously though.

[jakee 1,649]

9 hours ago, dogyks said:

I have heard compelling arguments to the effect that rape is a good thing overall.  You will excuse me if I reserve the right to find rape repellant across the board.

If you seriously believe that there are arguments in favour of rape that are compelling, then apparently you really don't find rape as repellant as everyone else here does. 
 

Another good explanation of your vote for Trump, I guess. Along with the fact that he promised DEI hiring would be reserved for white people, which you’re all in favour of.

[richravizza 30]

14 hours ago, dogyks said:

Going through the paper, the basis of its argument is Petito Principii, a classical fallacy of relevance.

CRT, like DEI, is terminally flawed.  Those who eapouse these doctrines are either contrarian or simply hard of thinking.

 I don't understand how an introduction into any theory/ideology with that exact preamble can be nothing but honest. Perhaps two or three reads is needed for some  comprehension; or transpose an other political movement, say a Call to Nationalism, transposing that movement exposed thee, so arrogant they could care less of The Constitution.Bravo at least they're honest Perhaps a rewrite of our D-d document, I'll bet they could do it on old twitter, they're amazing, 20 characters or less. lol Besides the white man's constitution would just get in the way... 

 Those that that want to dig into such shiaza may, could find a kernel of corn,lol  A indelible case of recentism is needed;  ethnic studies where a minor in Classic/US history is irrelevant.

The publishing houses use sensitivity readers delicate are we,the ui groups as our judges,there to protect us for us. Publishers can toe a line, know what not to publish as what may be perceived as/ is racist. I doubt any of our classics would be allowed to be published today,I've read of teachers being fired for reading aloud such blasphemy and good say the hyper racial essentialist.

 Dog, i'll have you know we have been vindicated as heretics along with Dr J. thankyou.He also highlighted your three points of concern.

I don't want to steal his thunder ie.the return of the strong gods. 

 

Warning the audio is horrible 

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recentism

[richravizza 30]

On 9/3/2025 at 1:56 AM, BIGUN said:

You throw this up as some form of Ta DAH! Moment. It is merely the main introductory paragraph of the 6 page missive from NYU in the 90's. You fail to post the rest of the information or even provide a link so others can see you're being disingenuous while we get another fucktube video and you argue intellectual honesty. 

 

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You're an ornery critter, I told phill where it came from, specifically, it also  came from honesty,Or did you go and do ur own search.Are you going to be our honest Gen.Milley character.  I thought we could ground pound his ass but you'd rather me a target. Your so offendable, Sir, you don't realize it, but your point is moot.

You don't complement well and dashed hope you'd be the type of man that would think of my words first, honestly,take a long deep[ breath,exhale slowly... take your finger off the trigger, and look what is behind your target.

 If you want me to fuck tard around... I can do that.  "All night long,all Night long.All Night Long.

I had heard a rumor that you may be, Gasp!..Conservative. lol

Contrary to Joys opinion of us dreaded SWM we're actually a creative bunch lol

Warning in context ; everything has switched since the 60's lol and now The Anti - Fascists have the Blues!

Boo Hoo lol

 

loosen up a little , will ya, we're on the same team. 

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[richravizza 30]

12 hours ago, wmw999 said:

Reframing an issue, particularly a complex one, to understand it from a different light is considered to be intellectually valid. CRT is largely reframing an issue to understand it from a different light. You just don't like that light.

Wendy P.

 A reframing, like America was founded on Slavery, In 1619....

Or that bio males have no advantage in women sports...

 CRT ethnic studie worldview, I'll give intellectual, but Valid?

Hi wendy,

 Thru the years I've come to live your quote,"there's nothing more dangerous" I had snivellers thru the years to 2k,1800, and even watched as one started to open at the same. How did I find myself here? ... I read your quote, Damn right. No More, I made a promise to myself and the misses.No Matter,EP's at 2k no if or buts. Anyhow, Mission Accomplished, thank you.

[billvon 3,178]

32 minutes ago, richravizza said:

 A reframing, like America was founded on Slavery, In 1619....

It was indeed founded partly on slavery.  In fact, slavery is in the original Constitution.  That's why so many conservatives don't want the Constitution studied.  Because that, of course, is CRT, and makes white people feel bad.

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CRT ethnic studie worldview, I'll give intellectual, but Valid?

Yes.  Redlining did in fact exist.  That is a fact, even if you dislike facts that portray white people in a bad light.

Slavery did in fact exist.  That is also a fact, even with republicans trying to erase that fact from museums and history books.

Black people were systematically excluded from bathrooms, water fountains, schools, businesses and the fronts of buses.  Also a fact.

Black people were excluded from sports teams.   That was finally ended, even though people would ask things like "oh, so you think black males have no advantage in white sports?"

Now, you can try to censor all that, of course - and many republicans are trying.  But it is part of our history, and that history has an effect on today's society.

 

[richravizza 30]

12 hours ago, BIGUN said:

As Wendy puts it - it shines a different light. CRT forces one to recognize other types of bias and hopefully one's own bias. You simply don't want to get it. 

I get it a quest for power,and the rules "heads I win tails you lose. "Let's play....

{ wish jakee could & Bill's 14 statements of purity will have to wait.lol}

Ok, here's the set up;

A S-s.w.m. wants to move to a typical big city,LA,Miami,Brooklyn exezeteraa 

He decides in a majority Black or Brown community. This action  obvious perpetuates gentrification.

He then decides again to move, it should be described as white flight. 

He decides "You know what?"  It's not worth it. The hassle the labels, the move because...

He obliously condones and perpetuates, the white supremacist patriarchal hierarchical construct.

 

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[wmw999 2,648]

1 hour ago, richravizza said:

A S-s.w.m. wants to move to a typical big city,LA,Miami,Brooklyn exezeteraa 

He decides in a majority Black or Brown community. This action  obvious perpetuates gentrification.

He then decides again to move, it should be described as white flight. 

He decides "You know what?"  It's not worth it. The hassle the labels, the move because...

He obliously condones and perpetuates, the white supremacist patriarchal hierarchical construct.

If said person is moving somewhere and is really concerned about what others are going to say, maybe they should take the time to talk to those others. If they are, in fact, trying to improve run-down properties, that is gentrification. It's also investment. Very little is solely good or solely bad -- some neighbors will be happy that the area is looking up, others will be pissed that taxes are going up.

Take it from someone who has been called intimidating on the DZ when she was young. Mainly because she didn't want to be the latest play toy, and didn't know another way to avoid it. So, well, people apparently talked, and I got what I wanted -- independence and self-respect. Also a whole lot less RW coaching. 

Wendy P.

[richravizza 30]

 

54 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

 

Take it from someone who has been called intimidating on the DZ when she was young. Mainly because she didn't want to be the latest play toy, and didn't know another way to avoid it. So, well, people apparently talked, and I got what I wanted -- independence and self-respect. Also a whole lot less RW coaching. 

Wendy P.

I think you're still intimidating,independent and have a whole lot of respect with me. Being a young woman on a DZ would give you quite a few pluses as well as the obvious negatives. And definately thick skin. I never progressed past my coach rating and when the opportunity arises to jump with newbies it makes my life... complete,so could you break down ,also less RW coaching.