RiggerLee 63 #1 December 20, 2016 Does any one know where I can find an old Cinetheodolite like they used to judge style or early RW. LeeLee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,274 #2 December 20, 2016 RiggerLee Does any one know where I can find an old Cinetheodolite like they used to judge style or early RW. Lee Ebay http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Contraves-EOTS-Cinetheodolite-Telescope-Missile-Tracker-/231412559155 Well, it's a little more advanced than what you are looking for.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RiggerLee 63 #3 December 20, 2016 We were looking at that. It is a little out of our price range. We were talking to some one at nasa about trying to buy one of theirs. They retired some recently but they can't find them. No one can figure out what happened to them. I remember when a guy had one out at Eloy durring the big Christmas boggie. He had a video adapter for it and was vedioing loads. he made a tape that year called The Utter Video with a blown up rubber glove as the mascot, you had to be there. If we could get one of those... LeeLee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #4 December 20, 2016 During the last ground judged meet(s) USPA had a video system with a large telephoto lens mounted on a 'turret' type system with the operators seat and video system on a large stand and moving in unison. Bad description. They may have only used it one or two years. Or that may be what you were talking about. I don't believe it incorporated any of the ex military equipment but I may be wrong. Working from a bad memory. I saw it once and pretty sure there was a photo of it in Parachutist at least once. I guess I don't remember them using a Cinetheodolite. What I remember was a long telescopic camera lens.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RiggerLee 63 #5 December 20, 2016 I'm probable using the wrong term. What I recall from Eloy is the guy had a tripod with an eye peace at an angle. Good telephoto lens. Crank handles to follow the jumpers smoothly. And a video camera adapter. I don't think the big lens was part of the camera. This was like 20 years ago I don't think vhs cameras were that good back then. I seem to recall that Slictomier had some thing for judging stile but it was always packed away in a crate. I have no clue what exactly it was. I'm not sure I ever saw it. LeeLee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #6 December 20, 2016 On the know your old I put a photo of the visual (non video) "binoculars". http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_attachment;postatt_id=148743; I think you and I are talking about the same thing. But the one I saw the camera/lens and operators seat were all a unit that rotated as a unit on a stand and had the elevation controls your referring to. Kind of like the gun photo attached only with a 3 foot camera lens instead of a gun barrel. And remember there were other video cameras besides VHS. I can't remember who put it together but as I recall it was a big name in the sport.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #7 December 20, 2016 Google 10x80 binoculars on ebay and you'll find a bunch of the optical ones. From wwII to on. One of the more expensive examples. http://www.ebay.com/itm/German-Dienstglas-Binoculars-Cold-War-Anti-Aircraft-Flak-10x80-Tripod-Zeiss-Lens-/152355147136?hash=item2379130d80:g:-xcAAOSwRLZUKF1R But I assume you need video adapter.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RiggerLee 63 #8 December 20, 2016 It's been a long time but I don't recall it being that big or having a moving seat. I seem to recall that it was more the size of the bino's but he had some kind of adapter for a video camera. It's been a long time. Honestly I think utter joke made more of an impression on me then the tripod set up. He did get awsome silky smooth full frame video from 12,000 ft. LeeLee lee@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #9 December 20, 2016 At some point there was one that big at Muskogee. Like I said only one or two years I think. Custom made as I recall.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #10 December 20, 2016 Stratos ground camera specs here. http://www.redbullstratos.com/technology/cameras-communications/ Out of your price range.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnyCrawford 0 #11 December 21, 2016 RiggerLeeWhat I recall from Eloy is the guy had a tripod with an eye peace at an angle. Good telephoto lens. Crank handles to follow the jumpers smoothly. And a video camera adapter. I don't think the big lens was part of the camera. The Army Gold Knights and the Air Force Academy had these systems, which were used to judge style at the National competitions. They were the only ones that could afford them. Check with those guys. They would follow the aircraft on jump run to pick up the exiting style diver. The cameraman actually called the cut by radio up to the pilot, for the purpose of getting the best angle for the video. Hooked to a TV screen to show the video was awesome. Much more magnification than binoculars, and the judges could review the tape multiple times. When idle, they used to point it at the daytime moon, and you could literally see the rotation speed of the earth as the moon crept across the TV screen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #12 December 21, 2016 The CSPA no longer does Style for its nationals, and I think that's a recent change in the last few years. So someone must have the ground video equipment. Don't know if the CSPA owns it or some S&A jumpers. It's a long shot but one could dig around and see if anyone wants to sell. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skytribe 17 #13 December 24, 2016 Take a look at for anti aircraft binoculars and you will find many older WW2 examples which in the UK were used at most DZ and I recall being used to judge style competitions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stefan_r10 0 #14 December 26, 2016 This is what was (and is) used on the other side of the iron courtain: http://www.ebay.de/itm/ORIGINAL-NVA-FLAKFERNROHR-TSK-10x80-UDSSR-TZK-FERNROHR-FLAKFERNGLAS-ZUBEHOR-/282046597943?hash=item41ab498b37:g:nccAAOSwyLlXoEJI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesky 0 #15 December 27, 2016 Regarding filming competition style, I have used most systems in Canada and the US over the past 30 plus years including the BC Council, Borghese, Airforce, Golden Knights, Eloy, Ganaonoque and Jones system. Most are gone now. Two or three are still around. Non of them were ever called a Cinetheodolite so I think you must be looking for something grander. Attached picture is of the Eloy system at the 2008 Nationals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dpreguy 14 #16 December 31, 2016 Do I recall correctly - that they were called telemeters? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites