Post trump Legal Actions, Including his Enablers

[SkyDekker 1,465]

6 hours ago, kallend said:

Not sure whether to laugh or cry about this one:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/politics/trump-sues-hillary-clinton/index.html

Former President Donald Trump filed a sprawling federal lawsuit on Thursday against Hillary Clinton, the Democratic National Committee and 26 other people and entities that he claims conspired to undermine his 2016 campaign by falsely tying him to Russia.

The lawsuit names a wide cast of characters that Trump has accused for years of orchestrating a “deep state” conspiracy against him – including former FBI Director James Comey and other FBI officials, the retired British spy Christopher Steele and his associates, and a handful of Clinton campaign advisers.

More fundraising bullshit.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

5 hours ago, metalslug said:

How many cases have we already seen, against defendants on the left and right, in which the prosecutors had stated that they had 'overwhelming evidence' only to be undone by insufficient evidence or a failure to properly understand the actual law. For this reason I'll take any politically tainted claims of 'overwhelming evidence' with a pinch of salt. 

Less than the amount of cases where poor people are being pressured to take plea deals.

[kallend 2,148]

50 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

Less than the amount of cases where poor people are being pressured to take plea deals.

Reprise:  Interesting the way that the marks are always the last to admit that they've been conned.  Human nature is funny.

[winsor 236]

20 hours ago, kallend said:

Interesting the way that the marks are always the last to admit that they've been conned.  Human nature is funny.

“It is easier to fool the people, than to convince them they have been fooled.
No man's life, liberty, and property are
safe while the legislature is in session.”

― Mark Twain

[kallend 2,148]

Well, here's a surprise - NOT:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/28/judge-says-trump-more-than-likely-committeed-crime/

 

Trump ‘more likely than not’ committed a crime in trying to block congressional confirmation of Biden’s win, federal judge says

[SkyDekker 1,465]

1 hour ago, kallend said:

Well, here's a surprise - NOT:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/28/judge-says-trump-more-than-likely-committeed-crime/

 

Trump ‘more likely than not’ committed a crime in trying to block congressional confirmation of Biden’s win, federal judge says

This really is an extraordinary ruling. Declaring that a president more likely than not committed crimes while still in office.

[kallend 2,148]

11 hours ago, SkyDekker said:

This really is an extraordinary ruling. Declaring that a president more likely than not committed crimes while still in office.

Interesting to see the spin the Trumpish press put on this (when they covered it at all).

[ryoder 1,590]

Damn! And Nixon took all that flack over a missing 18 minutes.

WaPo: Jan. 6 White House logs given to House show 7-hour gap in Trump calls

 

[kallend 2,148]

24 minutes ago, ryoder said:

Damn! And Nixon took all that flack over a missing 18 minutes.

WaPo: Jan. 6 White House logs given to House show 7-hour gap in Trump calls

 

The big difference is that in Nixon's case the congressional GOP chose not to be complicit.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

4 minutes ago, kallend said:

The big difference is that in Nixon's case the congressional GOP chose not to be complicit.

The other difference is that much of Nixon's base chose to abandon him as the case unfolded.

[JoeWeber 2,940]

1 hour ago, ryoder said:

Damn! And Nixon took all that flack over a missing 18 minutes.

WaPo: Jan. 6 White House logs given to House show 7-hour gap in Trump calls

 

Early reports are that burner phones were being used. Now wouldn't that be something if true?

[ryoder 1,590]

Anyone remember Giuliani's dimwit "election fraud witness"?

Michigan's Mellissa Carone, Giuliani's Ex-Sidekick, Disqualified From Ballot

[ryoder 1,590]

Judge deals blow to Steve Bannon’s legal defense in upcoming trial

Former Trump adviser Steve Bannon cannot argue at his trial on charges of contempt of Congress that he is not guilty because he was following the advice of his lawyer, a federal judge ruled Wednesday.

My lawyer made me do it!

[billvon 3,116]

9 minutes ago, ryoder said:

Former Trump adviser Steve Bannon cannot argue at his trial on charges of contempt of Congress that he is not guilty because he was following the advice of his lawyer, a federal judge ruled Wednesday.

Up next: "OK so it wasn't my lawyer; I intended to not answer because executive privilege!"

 

[ryoder 1,590]

7 minutes ago, billvon said:

Up next: "OK so it wasn't my lawyer; I intended to not answer because executive privilege!"

 

 

[ryoder 1,590]

Federal judge dismisses Republicans’ effort to block unaffiliated voters from Colorado’s primaries

The lawsuit sought to overturn Proposition 108, a 2016 ballot measure approved by voters allowing unaffiliated voters to participate in Colorado’s partisan primary elections...

The plaintiffs were represented by John Eastman, the controversial lawyer who advised former President Donald Trump on how to try to overturn the 2020 election, and Randy Corporon, a Republican National Committee member and conservative talk radio host.

[ryoder 1,590]

Gay Adult Film Entertainer Arrested for Role in Jan. 6 Insurrection

Fark.com one-liner: Maybe he was just there to deliver a pizza or fix the cable

LOL!

[Phil1111 1,182]

Canadians have been counter-meddling in US politics and one got caught. Southwestern Ontario billionaire fined US$975K for illegal Trump donation

Billionaire Barry Zekelman is fined for donating illegally to a fundraising group supporting Donald Trump. He must have had really, really, good lawyers because ' the federal regulatory agency that enforces U.S. campaign finance law “did not find that the violation was knowing or willful.”

bhhhhaaaa

He owns one of North America's largest steel pipe and tube makers.

[JoeWeber 2,940]

3 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Canadians have been counter-meddling in US politics and one got caught. Southwestern Ontario billionaire fined US$975K for illegal Trump donation

Billionaire Barry Zekelman is fined for donating illegally to a fundraising group supporting Donald Trump. He must have had really, really, good lawyers because ' the federal regulatory agency that enforces U.S. campaign finance law “did not find that the violation was knowing or willful.”

bhhhhaaaa

He owns one of North America's largest steel pipe and tube makers.

Steel pipe and tube, steel pipe and tube, hmm... Gotta be a connection there somewhere.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

2 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

Canadians have been counter-meddling in US politics and one got caught. Southwestern Ontario billionaire fined US$975K for illegal Trump donation

Billionaire Barry Zekelman is fined for donating illegally to a fundraising group supporting Donald Trump. He must have had really, really, good lawyers because ' the federal regulatory agency that enforces U.S. campaign finance law “did not find that the violation was knowing or willful.”

bhhhhaaaa

He owns one of North America's largest steel pipe and tube makers.

And as part of the deal Wheatland may get their $1,750,000 donation back.

So, lets sum this up. A US company donated $1,750,000 to a Trump SuperPAC. The donation is Illegal because it was discussed and likely at the direction of Zekelman, a Canadian. This gave Zekelman direct access to Trump, whose administration in the years after ruled in favour of Zekelman's businesses. Zekelman himself had his wealth go up by at least $1 billion.

Sounds like it was well worth it and in the end only the SuperPAC will be out money.

Edited April 19, 2022 by SkyDekker
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[Phil1111 1,182]

30 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

And as part of the deal Wheatland may get there $1,750,000 donation back.

So, lets sum this up. A US company donated $1,750,000 to a Trump SuperPAC. The donation is Illegal because it was discussed and likely at the direction of Zekelman, a Canadian. This gave Zekelman direct access to Trump, whose administration in the years after ruled in favour of Zekelman's businesses. Zekelman himself had his wealth go up by at least $1 billion.

Sounds like it was well worth it and in the end only the SuperPAC will be out money.

A Canadian success story. Where a Canadian business hoodwinked a US agency. Where he made a billion because of US political nationalism-pandering-corruption. Then in the end trump is out the cash, minus the fine of course.

Good points, a Win-Win-Win.

[ryoder 1,590]

Alex Jones Reaches Out to Justice Dept. About Jan. 6 Interview

Alex Jones, the host of the conspiracy-driven media outlet Infowars and a key player in the pro-Trump “Stop the Steal” movement, is in discussions with the Justice Department about an agreement to detail his role in the rally near the White House last Jan. 6 that preceded the attack on the Capitol.

But could they even believe anything he has to say?

[billvon 3,116]

10 hours ago, ryoder said:

But could they even believe anything he has to say?

Now, see, this is the genius of the Trump faction.  They lie about EVERYTHING.  All the time.  Constantly.  Heck, Sidney Powell even used this as her legal defense - she claimed that "no reasonable person would conclude that [her] statements were truly statements of fact."  

Now, setting aside the fact that every Trump supporter did, in fact, believe her, this leads to a unique defense not only for perpetrators, but also for the people who turn evidence against perpetrators.  If Powell makes a deal to cut her sentence by testifying against Trump, Trump's team can just say "hey, she actually came out and said you can't believe what she says!  Why should this court?"   

And of course Alex Jones has done this as well, stating that no “reasonable reader or listener” would believe his ridiculous claims.  So now he can testify against Trump, thus reducing any potential sentence, while at the same time being assured that he cannot harm Trump, since Trump can claim that no reasonable court can believe Alex Jones.

[TriGirl 343]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

Now, see, this is the genius of the Trump faction.  They lie about EVERYTHING.  All the time.  Constantly.  Heck, Sidney Powell even used this as her legal defense - she claimed that "no reasonable person would conclude that [her] statements were truly statements of fact."  

Now, setting aside the fact that every Trump supporter did, in fact, believe her, this leads to a unique defense not only for perpetrators, but also for the people who turn evidence against perpetrators.  If Powell makes a deal to cut her sentence by testifying against Trump, Trump's team can just say "hey, she actually came out and said you can't believe what she says!  Why should this court?"   

And of course Alex Jones has done this as well, stating that no “reasonable reader or listener” would believe his ridiculous claims.  So now he can testify against Trump, thus reducing any potential sentence, while at the same time being assured that he cannot harm Trump, since Trump can claim that no reasonable court can believe Alex Jones.

Also funny that Jones went on his show immediately after his deposition and gave his version of how things went, yet petitioned to have the deposition deemed private (not releasable).  So he can publicly accuse the legal team of unprofessional behavior, yet thinks he can suppress the tools for the lawyers to correct the narrative.  Glad to see that isn't going to fly.

[JerryBaumchen 1,468]

30 minutes ago, TriGirl said:

Also funny that Jones went on his show immediately after his deposition and gave his version of how things went, yet petitioned to have the deposition deemed private (not releasable).  So he can publicly accuse the legal team of unprofessional behavior, yet thinks he can suppress the tools for the lawyers to correct the narrative.  Glad to see that isn't going to fly.

Hi Girl,

Proof positive that Jones belongs in a looney bin, not a prison.

Just put a strait-jacket on him & warehouse him for the next 30-40 yrs.  End of problem.

Jerry Baumchen