Trump wants election delay

[billvon 3,118]

So today's Trump theater involves him trying to delay the election.  I don't believe the theory that he did it intentionally to distract from the dismal economic report; I suspect it was more that he got wind of the report, it depressed him and he lashed out with something he thought would anger democrats and thus make him feel better.

But in any case check out what a conservative columnist attacked Biden for back in April:
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Henry Olsen    Columnist

April 24, 2020 at 10:23 a.m. PDT

Former vice president Joe Biden’s unfounded accusation Thursday that President Trump wants to delay November’s election was not only clearly over the line but also unmasks how low the supposedly moderate Biden will go to win.

Biden said in an online fundraiser, “Mark my words, I think he is going to try to kick back the election somehow.” As the former chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Biden surely knows that Trump cannot and will not delay the election. The election date is set in law; Trump cannot change it without Congress’s consent. The election itself is run by the states, not the federal government, so there’s no bureaucracy Trump could corral to implement any order delaying the vote. Such an order would surely be challenged in court, and it’s inconceivable that the Supreme Court would uphold such a blatantly unconstitutional act.

Nonetheless, Biden chose to taint the president essentially with a charge of treason. One would hope that this baseless statement could be excused as just another one of Biden’s increasingly frequent verbal hiccups. 

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What do you want to bet that Olsen is backing up just as fast as he can from his suggestion that trying to delay the election is "treason?"

[JerryBaumchen 1,468]

16 minutes ago, billvon said:

So today's Trump theater involves him trying to delay the election.  I don't believe the theory that he did it intentionally to distract from the dismal economic report; I suspect it was more that he got wind of the report, it depressed him and he lashed out with something he thought would anger democrats and thus make him feel better.

But in any case check out what a conservative columnist attacked Biden for back in April:
=============================================

Henry Olsen    Columnist

April 24, 2020 at 10:23 a.m. PDT

Former vice president Joe Biden’s unfounded accusation Thursday that President Trump wants to delay November’s election was not only clearly over the line but also unmasks how low the supposedly moderate Biden will go to win.

Biden said in an online fundraiser, “Mark my words, I think he is going to try to kick back the election somehow.” As the former chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Biden surely knows that Trump cannot and will not delay the election. The election date is set in law; Trump cannot change it without Congress’s consent. The election itself is run by the states, not the federal government, so there’s no bureaucracy Trump could corral to implement any order delaying the vote. Such an order would surely be challenged in court, and it’s inconceivable that the Supreme Court would uphold such a blatantly unconstitutional act.

Nonetheless, Biden chose to taint the president essentially with a charge of treason. One would hope that this baseless statement could be excused as just another one of Biden’s increasingly frequent verbal hiccups. 

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What do you want to bet that Olsen is backing up just as fast as he can from his suggestion that trying to delay the election is "treason?"

Hi Bill,

But, but; we've been talking about Hypocrisy of the left since Saturday.

Jerry Baumchen

 

[JoeWeber 2,940]

50 minutes ago, billvon said:

I suspect it was more that he got wind of the report, it depressed him and he lashed out with something he thought would anger democrats and thus make him feel better.

Sure. But he does get controlling the news cycle, that's indisputable. No matter, even with a clear attack by Trump on American elections and our history of peaceful transfer of power, today like yesterday and tomorrow won't see a single Trump apologist on this site say he's crossed a line and they've had enough. 

[Coreece 190]

54 minutes ago, billvon said:

What do you want to bet that Olsen is backing up just as fast as he can from his suggestion that trying to delay the election is "treason?"

He already posted an op-ed on the subject about 10 hours prior to your bet.  You should lose by default and penalized the house minimum of $100 for not even bothering to look it up for yourself.  I'll chose the charity if that's ok - I'll even pick a secular one if you'd like.  It's a win win win all around.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/30/trumps-suggestion-delay-election-is-most-anti-democratic-thing-any-president-ever-said/

"President Trump’s tweet Thursday morning suggesting that the November election should be delayed is more than reckless and irresponsible. It is the single most anti-democratic statement any sitting president has ever made. It should be immediately, forcefully and vocally repudiated by every conservative and Republican."

"Trump’s tweet jumps the shark in so many ways that it is impossible to ignore. Such a statement should be unthinkable (in fact, I assumed it was unthinkable, which is why I strongly criticized Biden in April when he claimed without evidence that Trump would try to delay the election)."

"McConnell and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) should jointly introduce a nonbinding resolution in their respective chambers reiterating that it is the will of Congress that elections occur on Nov. 3 as scheduled. This resolution should be supported by every Republican member of each chamber, regardless of their beliefs on mail-in balloting. This resolution would immediately distinguish Trump from his party, to the latter’s advantage."

" our greatest president never contemplated delaying that fall’s election, even though as late as Aug. 23, 1864, he felt certain that he would lose. Today’s Republicans should follow the course set by the first Republican president, embracing our democratic heritage and rejecting the fevered musings emanating from the Oval Office."

 

And I wouldn't be surprised if you try weaseling it all back - "but, but he didn't specifically reiterate that it was "treason" in the wapo article - what a hypocrite!  All bets are off. . ."

[airdvr 210]

4 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Sure. But he does get controlling the news cycle, that's indisputable. No matter, even with a clear attack by Trump on American elections and our history of peaceful transfer of power, today like yesterday and tomorrow won't see a single Trump apologist on this site say he's crossed a line and they've had enough. 

Here...let me jump in and say that Trump's call to delay the election is complete and utter bullshit and I don't support it.

Edited July 31, 2020 by airdvr

[wmw999 2,588]

5 hours ago, Coreece said:

He already posted an op-ed on the subject about 10 hours prior to your bet. 

Good for him. Really.

Wendy P.

[turtlespeed 226]

7 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Sure. But he does get controlling the news cycle, that's indisputable. No matter, even with a clear attack by Trump on American elections and our history of peaceful transfer of power, today like yesterday and tomorrow won't see a single Trump apologist on this site say he's crossed a line and they've had enough. 

You won't get any apologies from me on this - 

His tweet about the election was comical.

[Phil1111 1,183]

14 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

 

His tweet about the election was comical.

No it was a loyalty litmus test for the GOP. The long knives are not out of their sheaths yet but hands are getting close.

[turtlespeed 226]

23 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

No it was a loyalty litmus test for the GOP. The long knives are not out of their sheaths yet but hands are getting close.

The tweet was comical.

Do you disagree with me just to be able to disagree?  Are you really that much of a contrarian?

[Phil1111 1,183]

1 minute ago, turtlespeed said:

The tweet was comical.

Do you disagree with me just to be able to disagree?  Are you really that much of a contrarian?

So tweeting to gaslight national elections, to pander treason in his base, in the nation. Was comical?

He also tweeted and made a statement about how the litigation arising from the election results would take years.

[kallend 2,148]

6 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

 

Do you disagree with me just to be able to disagree?  Are you really that much of a contrarian?

Pot.

[JoeWeber 2,940]

3 hours ago, airdvr said:

Here...let me jump in and say that Trump's call to delay the election is complete and utter bullshit and I don't support it.

Close. But have you now had enough? That is are you now of the opinion that, irrespective of any benefits you receive from his presidency, he's crossed a line and needs to go? 

[JerryBaumchen 1,468]

4 hours ago, wmw999 said:

Good for him. Really.

Hi Wendy,

However, you will notice that he has not offered an apology to Biden for his earlier commentary.

Jerry Baumchen

[SkyDekker 1,465]

It also took away from some other news that came out yesterday. How the White House scrapped plans for a national pandemic response, because at that time the virus was mostly in states with Democratic governors. White House felt that politically it was better to leave response to the States and then blame the Democratic governors.

 

More than 150,000 dead because of pure politics. Must be great to have so much freedom and not live in a socialist hell hole like Canada.

[billvon 3,118]

10 hours ago, Coreece said:

He already posted an op-ed on the subject about 10 hours prior to your bet.

Good catch!  And I am not surprised that he didn't even mention treason in his article.  Perhaps if he doesn't mention it people will forget.

But it is awesome that he's now stating that such a move is deplorable.

[headoverheels 334]

The White House condemns election delay in HK, while pushing it in the US.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/31/white-house-condemns-hong-kong-election-delay-389504

 

[JerryBaumchen 1,468]

3 hours ago, headoverheels said:

The White House condemns election delay in HK, while pushing it in the US.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/31/white-house-condemns-hong-kong-election-delay-389504

 

Hi heels,

Well, the dumb SOB has now said he wants it moved up. *

It's like being on the end of a yoyo:  “I wish we would move it up. Move it up.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/31/trump-greatest-election-disaster-2020-389712

Jerry Baumchen

* Stay tuned, the story may change with his next tweet.

 

[gowlerk 2,275]

Trump is right about one thing. There will be states with long delays announcing results with the unprecedented number of mailed ballots. There will likely be at least a week of chaos.

[ryoder 1,590]

45 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi heels,

Well, the dumb SOB has now said he wants it moved up. *

It's like being on the end of a yoyo:  “I wish we would move it up. Move it up.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/31/trump-greatest-election-disaster-2020-389712

Jerry Baumchen

* Stay tuned, the story may change with his next tweet.

 

And the blithering idiot is still babbling about absentee ballots being good, but mail-in ballots being bad. I really wish some reporter would ask the fool how he thinks absentee ballots are transported.

[JerryBaumchen 1,468]

16 minutes ago, ryoder said:

. . . the blithering idiot * . . . I really wish some reporter would ask the fool * how he thinks absentee ballots are transported.

Hi Robert,

Well, it could be that he just does not know.

Jerry Baumchen

*  Come on, make up your mind.  :)

 

[ryoder 1,590]

3 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Robert,

Well, it could be that he just does not know.

Jerry Baumchen

*  Come on, make up your mind.  :)

 

I can't decide; There are so many to choose from, and they all fit:

https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/idiot

[turtlespeed 226]

20 minutes ago, ryoder said:

I can't decide; There are so many to choose from, and they all fit:

https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/idiot

Biggest 

Idiot

Democrats

Ever

Nominated

So for now  . . . "The BIDEN" - if/when he wins - Proper respect will be granted for the office of the POTUS. 

You won't hear me disrespect him with childish names like "Cheeto" or "Orange Mango"

Edited August 1, 2020 by turtlespeed

[wmw999 2,588]

No, you're not a name-caller. But we can expect 4 years of "see -- he's not perfect!" and "look what he did now!" and "look what he said" stuff. You'll never give him the same benefit of the doubt that you seem to be willing to give Trump, and call out all the little things that you don't post to call out in Trump.

I know you think Trump is an idiot, and that you didn't vote for him. But you still talk about him like he's your fairly disreputable uncle who was a really nice guy to you. And you'll never talk about a Democrat that way -- he'll always just be the disreputable person.

Wendy P.

[turtlespeed 226]

1 hour ago, wmw999 said:

No, you're not a name-caller. But we can expect 4 years of "see -- he's not perfect!" and "look what he did now!" and "look what he said" stuff. You'll never give him the same benefit of the doubt that you seem to be willing to give Trump, and call out all the little things that you don't post to call out in Trump.

I know you think Trump is an idiot, and that you didn't vote for him. But you still talk about him like he's your fairly disreputable uncle who was a really nice guy to you. And you'll never talk about a Democrat that way -- he'll always just be the disreputable person.

Wendy P.

That's mostly correct.  I can admit that.

Thanks, also, I take pride that I voted my conscience in the last election.

I think you (and many others here) consider Biden to be a non starter, but ARE going to vote for him, knowing he is not up to the task.  I suppose you are actually voting for the VP whomever that may be.

I think that has been clearly determined in here, and there are many here that openly admit that.

Its such a shame that "your" party cannot find a more capable candidate, and be able to hold them up for scrutiny.  I had high hopes.

 

[wmw999 2,588]

The biggest thing about Biden is that he’ll choose advisers who are actually knowledgeable, and he’ll likely listen to them. 
The actual choice this year is between someone with a proven track record as president (an awful track record), and someone who’s less than dynamic and energizing, and who is way more old-school-white-guy than we need. 
Not what I’d’ve preferred, but not a difficult choice, either. 
Wendy P.